Government Intervenes with naming of child...WTF?

[imported_Smithy]

Don't you think that being made fun of at school might lead to a child dropping out, which in turn might lead to a low paying job or not job at all, and possibly drug abuse?

Ridicules, I have a weird name. I am college engineering senior in a very respectable university. I also dropped out of high school, not due to my name. I was teased through grade school, but your fatalistic approach to life wasnt taught to me.

isn't protecting people from there own decisions the reason that drugs and prostitution are illegal and criminal? How is a judicially mandated law on naming your child any different?

If you want a lecture on the US code and the Constitution, I regretably do not have the time. I agree, lets legalize prostitution and drugs. Lets also give stiff penalties to violators of drug use laws and stiffen alcohol penaties. Regulate prostitution like in Nevada. I dont agree with limiting liberties to make us all safer.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: Smithy

doesn't the government have a right to keep people from going on the welfare rolls? Doesn't that give our government right to tell us not to do things that have negative consequences?

I think that right was in some communist manifesto you read, not the Constitution.
Maybe you heard this said at this political rally.

If we felt it was a problem we could change the law. We don't, so there's not really a problem.

A danish women was fined for naming her child Christophpher, and forced to change it to either Christopher or Christoffer.

I am sure that there are some people that do find it a problem, especially the people that have been fined or not allowed to name their own children. What a horrible mentality you have with regards to this scenario. It makes you a slave. I can only imagine that your response was some sort of defense of what you perceive as some sort of 'attack' on your country.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: biostud666

Originally posted by: Smithy

doesn't the government have a right to keep people from going on the welfare rolls? Doesn't that give our government right to tell us not to do things that have negative consequences?

I think that right was in some communist manifesto you read, not the Constitution.
Maybe you heard this said at this political rally.

If we felt it was a problem we could change the law. We don't, so there's not really a problem.

A danish women was fined for naming her child Christophpher, and forced to change it to either Christopher or Christoffer.

I am sure that there are some people that do find it a problem. What a horrible mentality you have. It makes you a slave.

It's a democracy, they can go rock the vote if there was enough that really cared. I guess that some people would also like to carry guns, they can't either. It's our laws and most agree with them.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Czar
zebo,
ok, for example, some people have a kid, they name in Communist Boy, how do you think it would effect his life do you think?

I think the boy would adopt a nik, like many do today.

Problem is this restricting personal freedom stuff work both ways. When the right gets in power they want all sorts of laws to conform to thier moral code and the left same. What happens is you have a police state when your done because laws hardly ever get replealed. We need to move, as a nation, psycologically, twards more personal freedoms not less.

what ? commie

This has alot to do about the different cultures the US and Europe have. There are many things here that we find perfectly acceptable while you on the other side of the ocean dont and also the other way around.

and for more info to this thread, here is a list of names that have been rejected by the naming committie
http://www.rettarheimild.is/ma...fn=on&Samthykkt=no

Alot of them are purely foreign names but most of them are already names that are accepted but written differently. For example Elíza is a rejected name but Elísa is accepted. Liisa is rejected but Lísa is accepted.

Also a big factor and probably the biggest one is protecting the language. I can read texts written over 1000 years ago and understand it, this is something we want to keep.
Iceland has been very effective in protecting its language but with the internet it is becoming harder. Other scandinavian countries try but they are not nearly as successfull.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Smithy
This is the kind of BS we can look forward to in the US if we don't actively defend our rights. This is outrageous. What next, governement dictated hairstyles and a nation uniform, or maybe just armbands? ( joking )

I AGREE! What's next, having to give your name, phone number, address, social security number AND promise to work the GOP phone bank before you can see the President of the United States speak in public? Not as long as the freedom loving Republicans are in charge!

Exactly, discussting.:|

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Czar
This is perfectly normal, and like biostud666 said, the laws are for protecting the child from stupid parents.

The same laws are here in iceland, if you want a name that is not on the list of allowed names then you apply for it and it goes before a committie every year and they add about 10 names.

Sounds like Nazi Germany.

Don't you think that being made fun of at school might lead to a child dropping out, which in turn might lead to a low paying job or not job at all, and possibly drug abuse?

Ridiculous. There are millions of geeks who got picked on in school who ended up with high paying jobs and positions of power. He might not have a funny name, but look at Bill Gates, for godssakes...

The laws are there to protect the children, it is also illegal to spank your children for the same reason, how this has anything to do with Nazi Germany i don't know but maybe you could elaborate?

Honestly, would you have picked on a kid named superman in school? The parents who can't think beyond their own wishes and see to the best interests of their child should not be parents.

What i think is most ridiculous is that such a law is even needed.

 

[CanOWorms]

That's crazy (about having a banned or approved names list).

Several European countries have had a list of names that Turkish citizens could acquire. Conveniently, they left out the Kurdish names. Must be difficult for immigrants to name a child in some countries if names are only added '10 times a year'

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: biostud666
It's a democracy, they can go rock the vote if there was enough that really cared.

Horrendous. You would actually be in favor for slavery if the population wanted it.

I also edited my original post.

am sure that there are some people that do find it a problem, especially the people that have been fined or not allowed to name their own children. What a horrible mentality you have with regards to this scenario. It makes you a slave. I can only imagine that your response was some sort of defense of what you perceive as some sort of 'attack' on your country.

Look at what you are saying. It is as if you are a sheep with that response.

 

[imported_Smithy]

If we felt it was a problem we could change the law. We don't, so there's not really a problem.

what is wrong with you? fines for naming a child. Are you serious?
How about no name laws and trust our parents to name us like it has been. We win twice, no court rulings about this and we avoid slipping to the state depicted in this political rally.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Czar

Alot of them are purely foreign names but most of them are already names that are accepted but written differently. For example Elíza is a rejected name but Elísa is accepted. Liisa is rejected but Lísa is accepted.

Yeah, those foreigners shouldn't be allowed to have names!

 

[Vic]

Democracy as administered by a committee of appointed bureaucrats?

In the US, this kind of "language protection" would be considered nothing short of racism. Shall we force all the immigrant parents to give their children English names? Diego would be forbidden, but James would be okay? Juan would be bad, but John would be okay? Or (in the interests of European liberal socialism) should that be the other way around?

Not to mention how apparently little authority a parent has to raise their own child!

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Smithy

If we felt it was a problem we could change the law. We don't, so there's not really a problem.

what is wrong with you? fines for naming a child. Are you serious?
How about no name laws and trust our parents to name us like it has been. We win twice, no court rulings about this and we avoid slipping to the state depicted in this political rally.

Because I don't fear the society I live in, I don't fear the state. We as free people has chosen that some laws should prevent people from doing things that is considered stupid.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Czar

Alot of them are purely foreign names but most of them are already names that are accepted but written differently. For example Elíza is a rejected name but Elísa is accepted. Liisa is rejected but Lísa is accepted.

Yeah, those foreigners shouldn't be allowed to have names!

still on the same track I see

but I'll bite

When foreigners want to become icelandic citizens then before many years ago they had to change their names but that was abolished. I had a friend who was from Italy I think whose name was Gustavo and he had to change it to Gustav. Didnt matter at all since everyone called him Gustavo anyways.

But anyways. If you are an icelandic citizen you are that first and naming your kid with an icelandic name shouldnt be so out of the question?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Vic
Democracy as administered by a committee of appointed bureaucrats?

In the US, this kind of "language protection" would be considered nothing short of racism. Shall we force all the immigrant parents to give their children English names? Diego would be forbidden, but James would be okay? Juan would be bad, but John would be okay? Or (in the interests of European liberal socialism) should that be the other way around?

I'm wondering if it's used that way. I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Vic
Democracy as administered by a committee of appointed bureaucrats?

In the US, this kind of "language protection" would be considered nothing short of racism. Shall we force all the immigrant parents to give their children English names? Diego would be forbidden, but James would be okay? Juan would be bad, but John would be okay? Or (in the interests of European liberal socialism) should that be the other way around?

Not to mention how apparently little authority a parent has to raise their own child!

Actually immigrants can call their children Mohammad, Hossein etc. because they are original or ordinary names from where the come. But You can't name your child Batman, Superman, Audi etc.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Vic
Democracy as administered by a committee of appointed bureaucrats?

In the US, this kind of "language protection" would be considered nothing short of racism. Shall we force all the immigrant parents to give their children English names? Diego would be forbidden, but James would be okay? Juan would be bad, but John would be okay? Or (in the interests of European liberal socialism) should that be the other way around?

Not to mention how apparently little authority a parent has to raise their own child!

the US is based around Immigration, Europe and most other countries are not, huge different cultural background that comes into play on what is acceptable and what is not

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Czar

Alot of them are purely foreign names but most of them are already names that are accepted but written differently. For example Elíza is a rejected name but Elísa is accepted. Liisa is rejected but Lísa is accepted.

Yeah, those foreigners shouldn't be allowed to have names!

still on the same track I see

but I'll bite

When foreigners want to become icelandic citizens then before many years ago they had to change their names but that was abolished. I had a friend who was from Italy I think whose name was Gustavo and he had to change it to Gustav. Didnt matter at all since everyone called him Gustavo anyways.

But anyways. If you are an icelandic citizen you are that first and naming your kid with an icelandic name shouldnt be so out of the question?

Wow... You can be an Icelandic citizen and still retain your culture and identity.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Vic
Democracy as administered by a committee of appointed bureaucrats?

In the US, this kind of "language protection" would be considered nothing short of racism. Shall we force all the immigrant parents to give their children English names? Diego would be forbidden, but James would be okay? Juan would be bad, but John would be okay? Or (in the interests of European liberal socialism) should that be the other way around?

Not to mention how apparently little authority a parent has to raise their own child!

the US is based around Immigration, Europe and most other countries are not, huge different cultural background that comes into play on what is acceptable and what is not

Well I guess you have to justify racism somehow :disgust:

What you have said is absolutely disgusting.

When foreigners want to become icelandic citizens then before many years ago they had to change their names but that was abolished. I had a friend who was from Italy I think whose name was Gustavo and he had to change it to Gustav. Didnt matter at all since everyone called him Gustavo anyways.

But anyways. If you are an icelandic citizen you are that first and naming your kid with an icelandic name shouldnt be so out of the question?

Yeah, it doesn't matter that he was forced to change his name. :roll:

This is a perfect example of why many Europeans and many Americans/Canadians will never understand each other. Europeans such as yourself apparently see immigrants and their descendants as invaders. They cannot be at home in Iceland. In the US or Canada, you can be American or Canadian while still retaining whatever name, identity, or culture you wish to keep.

 

[imported_Smithy]

Because I don't fear the society I live in, I don't fear the state. We as free people has chosen that some laws should prevent people from doing things that is considered stupid.

As I said b4 biostud666, you have been conditionded for slavery

 

[Czar]

so you guys dont accept different cultures? isnt that racism?

 

[biostud]

Allowed Danish names for Boys
Girls names

We have more for Greenland and Fayeroe Islands, and you can always ask for a new name to be approved.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The laws are there to protect the children, it is also illegal to spank your children for the same reason, how this has anything to do with Nazi Germany i don't know but maybe you could elaborate?

Honestly, would you have picked on a kid named superman in school? The parents who can't think beyond their own wishes and see to the best interests of their child should not be parents.

What i think is most ridiculous is that such a law is even needed.

And prohibiting minor corporal punishment has not yet been proven to be a protection for the children. Quite the contrary, the latest generation are selfish brats on an unprecedented scale. Coincidence? I think not.

Which is evidenced by the fact that your solution for dealing with cruel children who pick on and beat up on their peers is simply to blame it on the poor picked-on kids' parents, and not on the parents who allow their children to commit violence on other children.

What is really ridiculous is that (as Czar so kindly exposed) these laws are nothing more than racism disguised as child protection. Once again, "Think of the children" is proven to be the most manipulative form of political propaganda there is.

 

[imported_Smithy]

But anyways. If you are an icelandic citizen you are that first and naming your kid with an icelandic name shouldnt be so out of the question?

ah this isnt Iceland and language protection shouldnt ever exist on the individual.

 

[Czar]

Vic,
this is to protect the language foremost

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Czar
so you guys dont accept different cultures? isnt that racism?

lol