Government releases UFO files

pravi333

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I went over the "highlights guide" quickly and all it says is about the unusual sightings. I did not see any explanation for the sightings from the government or may be i am missing something here.
 
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Speaking of UFO's....

Where was that one that was going to hover for 3 days last week over the US or wherever?

I don't recall seeing any massive floating objects in the sky. Well other than the spaghetti monster.....
 

SphinxnihpS

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Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.
 
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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?
 

herm0016

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Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

I would say anyone who completely discredits every sighting is stupid for not realizing the chances of life more advanced than us to exist in the infinite volume of space is pretty high.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

Because much like all skeptics this one follows the "absence of proof IS proof of absence" philosophy and has already made up their mind on the issue. Ergo, if you oppose their all-knowing view of the cosmos based on this intellectual scientific principle, you are clearly stupid. It makes sense when you think about it, the problem is it doesn't take much thinking and the brain power used is so small it's immeasurable, but I digress..
 

So

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Originally posted by: herm0016
Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

I would say anyone who completely discredits every sighting is stupid for not realizing the chances of life more advanced than us to exist in the infinite volume of space is pretty high.

Sigh. Do I have to address this again. See my post here: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ght_key=y&keyword1=UFO

Believing UFOs are actively visiting earth requires the following assumptions.
1. There has at some point been life off earth
2. That there is currently life off earth.
3. That there is currently life off earth but relatively nearby (in this galaxy).
4. That the nearby life off earth has evolved intelligence and still exists.
5. That this intelligent life has developed a scientific civilization (see whales / elephants).
6. That the life off earth and nearby with a scientific civilization has developed spaceflight.
7. That the current life off earth nearby with intelligence and a scientific civilization and spaceflight has noticed us.
8. That the current life off earth nearby with intelligence and a scientific civilization and spaceflight and that has noticed us has a means to get here in a timely manner.
9. That the current life off earth nearby with intelligence and a scientific civilization and spaceflight and that has noticed us and a means to get here in a timely manner has visited us yet refuses to make contact in a public way, preferring to kidnap rednecks.
10. That the current life off earth nearby with intelligence and a scientific civilization and spaceflight and that has noticed us and a means to get here in a timely manner and visits us yet refuses to make contact in a public way, preferring to kidnap rednecks has been able to be covered up by the government as easily explainable phenomenon.

I will accept 1-3 as extremely likely, 4 as possible and anything else as highly unlikely at best. Especially when the alternate explanation is "crackpots are seeing patterns where there are none"
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: herm0016
Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

I would say anyone who completely discredits every sighting is stupid for not realizing the chances of life more advanced than us to exist in the infinite volume of space is pretty high.

Pfft... don't you know? God created us and deemed the rest of the lifeless universe crap. We're special, duh.
 

jonks

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"I do believe Jesus will come back, but I think he'll stop off first at the 3 trillion other planets in the universe where he wasn't nailed to a cross." - Martin Short
 

So

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

Because much like all skeptics this one follows the "absence of proof IS proof of absence"

WRONG. The correct (and coincidentally skeptical position) is:
Unless there is positive evidence to support a given claim, the only rational position is to assume it's false.

Similarly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

You can't prove invisible unicorns that love gasoline fumes aren't the real reason that cars go down the highway, but you wouldn't believe that claim unless someone provided some damn good evidence to support that.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

Because much like all skeptics this one follows the "absence of proof IS proof of absence" philosophy and has already made up their mind on the issue. Ergo, if you oppose their all-knowing view of the cosmos based on this intellectual scientific principle, you are clearly stupid. It makes sense when you think about it, the problem is it doesn't take much thinking and the brain power used is so small it's immeasurable, but I digress..

There's a name for this group of people: The religious

ba da bing!
 

Jeff7181

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Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: soulcougher73
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Anyone who believes aliens from another planet visit our planet is clearly stupid.

Why is that? If we had the capability we would visit other planets so why wouldnt they?

Because much like all skeptics this one follows the "absence of proof IS proof of absence"

WRONG. The correct (and coincidentally skeptical position) is:
Unless there is positive evidence to support a given claim, the only rational position is to assume it's false.

Similarly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

You can't prove invisible unicorns that love gasoline fumes aren't the real reason that cars go down the highway, but you wouldn't believe that claim unless someone provided some damn good evidence to support that.

Actually it can be proven. We build gasoline engines, we know everything about how and why they work.

Plus, Auto Zone doesn't carry replacement invisible unicorns for any model engine. That's positive evidence to support the claim that gasoline engines don't use invisible unicorns, so the only rational position is to assume your claim is false.
 

trance247

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I always loved this quote "If a person talks to god, he is religious if God talks to a person he is a lunatic"...unless they will land smack in the middle of the Superbowl kickoff majority of public will not believe in intelligent life other than our own. We will see the light some day...
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Crackpot US fighter pilots and crackpot airline pilots

usa = nutjobs amiright

You got the "confused" part right. Intergalactic space aliens traveled billions of light years to earth, entered our atmosphere and then got picked up on our ultar-sophisticated radar systems despite the fact that even we have developed stealth technologies. Yep, aliens are that dumb.

As to the rest of you conflating the issues of the existence of life somewhere in the vastness of the universe with aliens visiting earth and a massive government coverup, please stop.
 

FallenHero

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Speaking of UFO's....

Where was that one that was going to hover for 3 days last week over the US or wherever?

I don't recall seeing any massive floating objects in the sky. Well other than the spaghetti monster.....

Hail your noodley god!
 

SphinxnihpS

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I should "Die In A Fire" because I know aliens from other planets have never ever visited us?

Fellas, I DO NOT dispute the INSANELY HIGH PROBABILITY that life exists elsewhere in the universe, I just say that it can not nor will it ever be able to get here.

People that think alien visitation is POSSIBLE, clearly have no grasp on the sheer volume of the universe, nor of speed. Even at the speed of light, which requires infinite energy for anything of mass to accelerate to, it would take hundreds of thousands of years to traverse THIS GALAXY.

Detection is another problem. Even if Aliens could travel faster than light/fold space (both forever impossibilities), how would they find us? LOL

Go play with your SETI@home, fools!
 
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