If that was your goal, you got almost 25% of votes >$600.
So NV probably saw something that popped dollar signs into their eyes because they went for it.
(And we already have $1,000 flag ships - GTX Titan series, we've had it for 3 years now.)
My interest is in the upper spending ranges. I am assuming Nvidia has done their research and came to the solid conclusion that people are willing, without issue, to spend $700 on a mid range card that historically would have cost $250. I want to see that kind of information myself.
So, if people are willing to snatch up a bunch of 1080's at $700 (mid range) that must mean people are also wiling to increase the cost of a full die high end past $1,000. How far past? I want to know.
The poll is fine how it is because it shows what price bracket people are in. There is enough filtering at the low end, or traditional price brackets for dual card setups costing $500 each ($1,000.00 or less) and I want to know how many of you crazy people are willing to sell not only your organs, but the organs of your children and perhaps even pets for a $1,000.00 Nvidia mid range card and $1,500.00 high end card, in SLI, with water blocks or fancy vapor chamber for an extra $350.00.
How far are you guys going to take this? Because Nvidia is testing us. They are testing the market to see how far they can push it, and every generation they push it farther and farther, each time setting a new precedent. This last time they really got cocky and charged an extra hundred for a reference cooler. Maybe that was a trick to make you feel good about spending "only" $600 for an after market mid range card.
Anyway, the poll is fine. The poll is not the problem. People spending $700 on a mid range card? Now that's what you should be complaining about.
Yes, but they are still only $1,000.00. People wonder why I have a $6000.00 number up there. Its there because it makes sense. They increase the price of a full die card to $1,500.00 and someone buys 4 of them, they are already over 6k before water blocks or whatever else with just shipping costs pushing them over 6k. Tell me you can't imagine Nvidia hiking the price of a Titan up to $1,500.00? Of course they can, and people will pay it. If you are already paying 1k for a card that used to cost 5-$600, then why would you care about a few hundred more? What would that do to the rest of the stack? You might start to see mid range cards approach $1,000 themselves...oh wait, $700 1080 is already there
Why is this bad? Because the good performance goes to the people who can pay high prices, and the rest of us will be stuck with lower mid range class performance, and we'll be paying around $400 for it. Imagine $400 for a GTX 960? That will be our option if this crap is allowed to run away like it has been.
The biggest research tool Nvidia has are their sales numbers. If people are willing to pay it Nvidia would be the worst business in the world not to cater to their customers desires.
Yes, but they are still only $1,000.00. People wonder why I have a $6000.00 number up there. Its there because it makes sense. They increase the price of a full die card to $1,500.00 and someone buys 4 of them, they are already over 6k before water blocks or whatever else with just shipping costs pushing them over 6k. Tell me you can't imagine Nvidia hiking the price of a Titan up to $1,500.00? Of course they can, and people will pay it. If you are already paying 1k for a card that used to cost 5-$600, then why would you care about a few hundred more? What would that do to the rest of the stack? You might start to see mid range cards approach $1,000 themselves...oh wait, $700 1080 is already there
Why is this bad? Because the good performance goes to the people who can pay high prices, and the rest of us will be stuck with lower mid range class performance, and we'll be paying around $400 for it. Imagine $400 for a GTX 960? That will be our option if this crap is allowed to run away like it has been.
(Harley / Hayabusa / KX450f's)
Don't know what to say. Capitalism for you? Start buying AMD exclusively to give them the resources/mind-share they need to stop something like this.
There will always be people with money. And companies will always cater to them first. C'est la vie.
EDIT:
This:
At some point everyone reaches a point of where they will stop to support a company. It seems you might have reached yours <-@Moonbogg.
Serious question.Most I've ever spent is $200. I consider $190 the sweet spot.
I don't think hurting yourself to "support a company" is a good move. Buy the best product for you, whether it's AMD or NVIDIA. The execs at these companies stuff their pockets with so much cash that one individual's contributions are 100% immaterial.
If a company puts out a product that people want to buy, it will be bought. If they, for whatever reason, can't get that product sold, then it won't sell.
Wow, look at that, a tautology.I don't think hurting yourself to "support a company" is a good move. Buy the best product for you, whether it's AMD or NVIDIA. The execs at these companies stuff their pockets with so much cash that one individual's contributions are 100% immaterial.
If a company puts out a product that people want to buy, it will be bought. If they, for whatever reason, can't get that product sold, then it won't sell.
Eh the market has spoken. If you dont like what it is saying then dont buy a 400 dollar card.
Every time I see someone refer to a 970, 980, 1070 or 1080 class GPU as "mid-range", I have a little "Huh?" moment. I know it's the accepted classification scheme, it's just that they are still way too expensive for me to consider mid-range. I suppose I'm not a serious enough gamer for it to be worth it.
I don't think hurting yourself to "support a company" is a good move. Buy the best product for you, whether it's AMD or NVIDIA. The execs at these companies stuff their pockets with so much cash that one individual's contributions are 100% immaterial.
If a company puts out a product that people want to buy, it will be bought. If they, for whatever reason, can't get that product sold, then it won't sell.
a big die chip comes out for the same price and almost TWICE as fast? Jesus that would suck. That's the fail train that is hauling ass right toward future 1080 owners.
They can just lower the 1080 to 600 and launch the Ti in the 750$ range, Of course they don't have to. the cards will sell otherwise.
Maybe it's because NV has been suspiciously quiet on when AIB cards hit the market?But the 1080 is MSRP $600. Which keeps blowing my mind here. It's only $50 more than the 980 MSRP.
Unless everyone here suddenly has a hard-on for reference models made exclusively by Nvidia, why is everyone bending themselves backwards to cite the Founder prices as the de-facto price they'd be paying. EDIT: I'd go on a limb here and say AIB's outsell Nvidia.
This forum plays out like this:
"Reference blowers suck, you don't want them, only go for custom coolers."
<Founder edition get price jacked up, custom models slated to be cheaper>
"WTF!???? THIS IS INSANE!!!! WHY!!!!???!"
/facepalm
NVIDIAs press release was also very careful to only attach the May 27th launch date to the Founders Edition cards.
The GTX 1070 will be the latter of the two new Pascal cards, hitting the streets on June 10th. Like the GTX 1080, NVIDIAs press release is very careful to only attach that date to the Founders Edition version, so were still waiting on confirmation over whether the base card will be available on the 10th as well.
Maybe it's because NV has been suspiciously quiet on when AIB cards hit the market?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10304/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-1080-1070/2
But the 1080 is MSRP $600. Which keeps blowing my mind here. It's only $50 more than the 980 MSRP.
And the 980 was $50 more than the 680, which itself was $250 more than 560Ti!!! Hell, the mid range 680 was about $150 more than even the 570 which was a big die high end card, second only to the 580.
The cost of fake high end cards continues to rise $50 per generation. As if the 200% instant price hike with the 680 wasn't enough? Jesus people. We are getting obliterated here.
Don't you realize that some people who have no problem in spending that quantum prefer it that way? It's an instant differentiator in who's the BOSS.And the 980 was $50 more than the 680, which itself was $250 more than 560Ti!!! Hell, the mid range 680 was about $150 more than even the 570 which was a big die high end card, second only to the 580.
The cost of fake high end cards continues to rise $50 per generation. As if the 200% instant price hike with the 680 wasn't enough? Jesus people. We are getting obliterated here.
Even before anyone had a 600 series card I made a thread about 600 series pricing and I was blown away by it. A few people raised an eyebrow, but then they opened their wallets. Even I made a fool of myself and caved and got a couple 670's, but I wanted an upgrade and people said GK110 "wasn't a gamer card" so I thought maybe things had changed for good, but I was wrong. We were all wrong and we keep getting wrecked.
Now, tilt your head back and look up and that big blue thing. Its about to start falling! No but seriously, this pricing is perfectly ridiculous.