Yeah, and the case I have picked out has good cable management...but then again the premium for modular isn't that great at all so it's good advice to give. It could save me hassle routing.
Modular just gets the cables out of there. Less clutter and better air flow, basically.
I'm trying to dip my toe in the PC gaming waters after a long absence. Not a pro gamer or anything like that. I was joking about the Xbox. I could never abide one of those paddle style controllers. And what's the benefit of a modular PSU aside from hot having cables that I could easily route out of sight anyway? I had a modular OCZ which died and replaced with a non-modular Corsair Bronze on my old box and it didn't bother me. So essentially I chose the non-modular Corsair Bronze this time because that's the one that didn't die on me last time heh.
Good point though, I'm realizing after reading the responses here trying to future proof gaming is a fool's errand. Just get a RX 480, and save money by opting Freesync over Gsync as far as a display goes, and upgrade later when a new game comes out that catches my eye. 480 will run Skyrim and Doom just fine.
I want to get into gaming for escapism after work, not anything competitive.
An extra $10 over the full life of a psu that can be used for tons of builds...Yeah, and the case I have picked out has good cable management...but then again the premium for modular isn't that great at all so it's good advice to give. It could save me hassle routing.
I usually go modular myself, it only really matters that much if you have a particularly small case. In a larger case it will just be an eyesore is all.Yeah, and the case I have picked out has good cable management...but then again the premium for modular isn't that great at all so it's good advice to give. It could save me hassle routing.
All depends. It's such a hard recommendation.I don't have a modular PSU because 6 years ago there was still quite a premium on them. However in 2016 there is no reason not to buy a modular one. You know corsair makes modular PSUs as well....
The PSU is possibly the longest lasting component in a PC so no reason to skimp on it when you are not limited by an exact budget.
And yes RX 480 8GB + FreeSync is far better value than 1070 + G-Sync provided you are not going to put the arbitrary restriction of 5 year cycle on yourself. I am sure AMD will continue to do fine for 1080p gaming in the near future.
I personally would buy a 1070 with a non G-Sync monitor but that's because I have never really been bothered by regular V-Sync solutions.
I don't disagree that SSAA is the best form of AA for visual improvements, but it is unreasonably demanding. If you find a need to use it, you will have to spend loads of money unless only used on very low demanding games.I agree 8xMSAA is a joke but SSAA is simply amazing. I played Crysis 1 and Metro 2033 Redux maxed with 2xSSAA on a 1070 and it was a glorious experience. Pretty sure neither the 1060 or 480 can do that at 1080p. If I were very rich I'll buy a Titan XP so I could do that in as many games as possible. The whole concept of GPU overkill is a complete joke.
4xSSAA is also really unnecessary. There are overkill settings yes but to get to that point is actually fairly demanding to begin with.
It's one more reason why being a year or 2 behind game releases is such a good thing.I don't disagree that SSAA is the best form of AA for visual improvements, but it is unreasonably demanding. If you find a need to use it, you will have to spend loads of money unless only used on very low demanding games.
That is an odd recommendation. Even then, that opens up the another question. Why spend $400 on a GPU, that a $200 can do the same job, without SSAA.It's one more reason why being a year or 2 behind game releases is such a good thing.
Because we care about SSAA?That is an odd recommendation. Even then, that opens up the another question. Why spend $400 on a GPU, that a $200 can do the same job, without SSAA.
I assume you skip demanding games of their time at the same time? SSAA always remains extremely demanding. Some 2 year old games may handle it, but other 4 year old games won't. You'd have to still stay at the top of the line GPU's to handle SSAA on demanding 2 year old games.Because we care about SSAA?
Staying behind the timeline in terms of games allows you to save money on games, get fully stable games from the moment YOU start playing. Get all the relevant DLC from the get go. And lastly no need to spend too much on hardware for enthusiast level performance.
I obviously don't play every game with SSAA but I was just saying that if I could afford it I would. Staying behind the timeline allows me various advantages hence I do that. But you are right one has to be really really behind the time to play every game with SSAA at mid range prices.I assume you skip demanding games of their time at the same time? SSAA always remains extremely demanding. Some 2 year old games may handle it, but other 4 year old games won't. You'd have to still stay at the top of the line GPU's to handle SSAA on demanding 2 year old games.
It's important to be able to turn settings down as a PC gamer, and SSAA is typically the first thing that goes.
Edit: and it's find that you do this, but it doesn't change the fact that that setting, along with a few others, will making gaming much more frustrating and costly.
Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing. It was the original form of AA, which more or less behaves as if it's rendering at a much higher resolution, and shrinks the image down to get rid of jagged edges. It's more complicated than that, but the performance hit of 4x SSAA can be up to the same hit of going from 1080p to 4K depending on the version of SSAA used.What is so great about SSAA? Hell what is SSAA?
Can I get a Cliffs Notes answer instead of a link to an hour long Youtube vid full of jargon?
From my experience with several games SSAA is no way near as demanding as DSR @ 4K. I also don't see the point of 4xSSAA over 2x which further makes the difference between SSAA and DSR massive.
According to Nvidia GeForce Experience 2xSSAA renders the game at 4x the resolution. But even 4xSSAA at 1080p is less demanding than 4K.
I haven't done IQ comparisons to be honest but 2xSSAA alone looks so much better than 4xMSAA. The 1070 can drop below 60FPS at 4K even on some old games at max settings so I am not really interested in it. I only attempt DSR when SSAA is not possible. And for me sub 60 FPS is a territory I only accept when I have to drop to medium settings.2xSSAA is only 2 samples per pixel, you probably need 4x to be comparable to 4k DSR. SSAA is still better though because of the rotated grid, but I doubt 2xSSAA will look as good as 4k DSR.
Were you using Nvidia inspector? Did you happen to use the techniques to force SG-SSAA (it requires you to use the transparency settings with Nvidia inspector and a few others settings). Using the standard MSAA + TS SSAA, left more jaggies than SSAA did for myself.MSAA+TRAA looks very similar to SSAA/SGSSAA but cost like 90% less performance hit.
I still have old screenshot from dragon age.Pretty much zero jaggies(Hair, sword, armor)
From my experience with several games SSAA is no way near as demanding as DSR @ 4K. I also don't see the point of 4xSSAA over 2x which further makes the difference between SSAA and DSR massive.
According to Nvidia GeForce Experience 2xSSAA renders the game at 4x the resolution. But even 4xSSAA at 1080p is less demanding than 4K.
I haven't done IQ comparisons to be honest but 2xSSAA alone looks so much better than 4xMSAA. The 1070 can drop below 60FPS at 4K even on some old games at max settings so I am not really interested in it. I only attempt DSR when SSAA is not possible. And for me sub 60 FPS is a territory I only accept when I have to drop to medium settings.
I'll do a 2xSSAA and 4x IQ comparison with some foliage heavy game.
that depends if nvidia start crippling/stopping Pascal after it is not produced as main architecture(unlike Maxwell now) that could be soonerYou'll be fine with a 1070 @1080p for the next 5 years.