GPU for mITX 1060 or 480?

[littleg]

Go with the 1060 6GB. It's a decent card, within budget, plenty of vram and will play your game nicely. I'd stay away from the 3GB version though, it's worth ponying up the extra for the 6GB.

 

[zinfamous]

Yea, cant believe some of the "advice" that gets posted in these forums. According to game.gpu, the 6gb 1060 is about 20% faster in this game than the 8gb 480. I really would like a link to those "tons" of 480s at 200.00. Looking on newegg, the cheapest 8gb model is around 250.00, very close to the 6gb 1060. There arent even any 4gb models of the 480 at 200.00. The choices for this game really come down to the 1060 for efficiency and best performance in this class of card, or the 470 if you want to sacrifice some performance and save some money.

Edit: I do see 2 480 models for 200.00, one of which is on sale for 180.00 after rebate, but that is a sale that ends in a couple of days. But those are both 4gb models. The 180.00 after rebate is a good deal, but at 200.00 I would just go with a 470. Strange also how advice changes from "spend 50.00 more to get better performance" to "look for a good deal" depending on the circumstances.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032

It's actually $155 If you have AMEX and purchase using the activated AMEX deal, and after the rebate.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I was showing CPU scaling, why would they use a lower end card for that? The point is the game is heavily CPU limited and DX12 should help with that.

http://www.gamegpu.com/rts-/-стратегии/sid-meier-s-civilization-vi-test-gpu

Really you can't find good deals on 470/480s?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...scription=470&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

How about $180 for a 480?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032&cm_re=480-_-14-137-032-_-Product

$200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131708&cm_re=480-_-14-131-708-_-Product

Actually, that graph you are showing would indicate the game is gpu limited, at least with a powerful, overclocked cpu. The game is in fact cpu limited, however, as shown by the fact that the 1080 with a 5960x gives 85 FPS at 1440p while the same cpu at stock gives only 70FPS at 1080p.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032

It's actually $155 If you have AMEX and purchase using the activated AMEX deal, and after the rebate.

Yea, and there are also 1060 6gb models for 215 and 225 if you take off the Amex deal.

 

[AtenRa]

How important is power draw /heat /noise in mATX?

I was under the impression that because of much less space, this is important. 30-40 Watts can produce a lot of heat.

Silverstone SG06 will not have heat problems with any of those cards, not even with 180-200W cards (If they will fit).

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

honor

Silverstone SG06 will not have heat problems with any of those cards, not even with 180-200W cards (If they will fit).

Thanks. Helpful, since I too have SG06.

Though, it does affect noise levels a little, according to TPU (31 vs 29 db, so barely noticeable).

 

[PontiacGTX]

get a rx 480 or a r9 nano it would perform better on DX12 on the game

 

[Phynaz]

You dont really need 8x MSAA at 1600p for this game, RX 470 4GB will be fine for 1600p 60fps Vsync at ultra settings with no MASAA or 2x even on DX-11.

Newegg has two-three RX 470 4GB for $170 today, no need to spend more for that game unless you want to go for 8x MSAA for some reason.

Telling people what they don't need so you can sell them on an AMD product to fit your agenda...

 

[zinfamous]

Telling people what they don't need so you can sell them on an AMD product to fit your agenda...

But isn't that what one has to do to try and sell people a 3gb 1060 $200+ class card in 2016, to fit the "nVidia agenda"?

just saying

 

[RussianSensation]

Lots of deals lately on 1060 and 480 cards in the $200ish range and I'm thinking about finally dropping one in because my system (specs below) sure gets noisy playing Civ6 or running Photoshop Elements on large batches of photos. Then again, not sure if it's the CPU or onboard graphics that's the bottleneck.

Running a pair of Dell 30" at 2560 x 1600 currently.

Only gaming I do is Civ6, so not looking for a hardcore gaming card probably.

Any advice appreciated...

For your needs (the game you intend to play), don't waste your $ on a $250 GTX1060 6GB. Grab the MSI GTX1060 3GB for $170.

I'd stay away from the 3GB version though, it's worth ponying up the extra for the 6GB.

Not in this case. In this instance, the 6GB card is a waste of $. The cheapest 1060 6GB that will fit inside his case costs $245, while the cheapest 3GB card I linked above is $170. $75 difference for a slow-paced turn-based 3D board game for what 3-4 extra frames? One of the worst ways to spend $.

 

[frozentundra123456]

As usual, this thread has degenerated into the usual partisan bickering and the use of some projected future performance to promote a certain brand. I really feel sorry for new posters who come to this forum without knowing what filters to apply. In any case, OP, if you want to play the game now and base your buying decision on hard data instead of speculation, I stand by what I said before. If you want the best performance and lowest power usage, get the 1060 6gb. If you want to still have decent performance and save money, get a 470, or the 4gb 480 on sale with rebate that another poster linked, although the deal expires in a couple of days.

 

[Bacon1]

Actually, that graph you are showing would indicate the game is gpu limited, at least with a powerful, overclocked cpu. The game is in fact cpu limited, however, as shown by the fact that the 1080 with a 5960x gives 85 FPS at 1440p while the same cpu at stock gives only 70FPS at 1080p.

I posted the CPU results earlier and was talking about those. I posted the GPU results to show that both cards were very close and since he'd be CPU limited, they'd be even closer in actual use.

The game very much needs a DX12 update because even on a 1080 / 1070 / 980 Ti it stutters a TON.

 

[Phynaz]

But isn't that what one has to do to try and sell people a 3gb 1060 $200+ class card in 2016, to fit the "nVidia agenda"?

just saying

I didn't see anyone in this thread recommend a 3GB card, did I miss something?

 

[Bacon1]

I didn't see anyone in this thread recommend a 3GB card, did I miss something?

Not sure how you missed it, you liked the post afterall...

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/gpu-for-mitx-1060-or-480.2490878/#post-38555880

 

[Phynaz]

Not sure how you missed it, you liked the post afterall...

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/gpu-for-mitx-1060-or-480.2490878/#post-38555880

I still can't see where the 3GB card was recommended. Must be because it's Friday.

 

[zinfamous]

I didn't see anyone in this thread recommend a 3GB card, did I miss something?

not the point.

 

[Phynaz]

not the point.

What was your point then? Are you carrying over an "argument" from a different thread?

 

[AtenRa]

Telling people what they don't need so you can sell them on an AMD product to fit your agenda...

If the OP didnt want us to give him our advise/opinions, he wouldn't ask the question "GPU for mITX 1060 or 480?" in the first place.

Instead of personally attacking me, why dont you make a worthy contribution in this forum and say your opinion about the actual topic.

 

[zinfamous]

What was your point then? Are you carrying over an "argument" from a different thread?

My point was, essentially, asking you about this point, which I think is pretty clear:

Telling people what they don't need so you can sell them on an AMD product to fit your agenda...

Over and over and over again: "You don't really need that extra 3gb, or even 4gb now" to justify this card at this terrible performance/price bracket. All over the place. You specifically made a comment that easily stands on its own as some "assault" against the "AMD agenda trolls" with what you very much make clear is some repeated behavior.

I'm simply reminding you of this same repeated behavior which shows that ill-informed agenda trolls frequent both sides of member's rah-rah silicon manufacturing fan club.

Yes, this is off-topic and grandly detracts from this thread, but what do you expect when you repeatedly bring up this kind of nonsense?

 

[happy medium]

I didn't see anyone in this thread recommend a 3GB card, did I miss something?

Russian sensation did. Post #34

 

[RussianSensation]

I didn't see anyone in this thread recommend a 3GB card, did I miss something?

I would not recommend GTX1060 3GB under normal circumstances, but under OP's use case with Civ 6 and no other games, I'd recommend a $170 1060 3GB over a $245 1060 6GB all day. He is better off putting aside $75 towards a future GPU upgrade since he barely plays.

Any advice appreciated...

Another option is Sapphire RX 480 8GB 9.45". Your case accomodates up to 10" videocard. The best perk of the RX 480 is that between ZEC or Ethereum mining, the AMD card is going to be paid off in less than 6 months.

If you are not worried about directx 12 or want to play it right now then the 1060 is the clear choice.

For Civ 6, yes, but not overall. GTX1060 cannot beat RX 480 in the latest AAA games.

GTX1060 wins 6, RX 480 wins 6, they tie in 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMM5UFFSrSk&t=529s

But RX 480 also wins in Infinite Warfare and Titanfall 2. GTX1060 is losing in at least 50% of modern AAA titles to the RX 480 which means it cannot be the clear choice overall, not to mention once accounting for mining, it gets completely blown out of the water. Mining with RX 480 = free RX 480.

 

[Headfoot]

For your needs (the game you intend to play), don't waste your $ on a $250 GTX1060 6GB. Grab the MSI GTX1060 3GB for $170.



Not in this case. In this instance, the 6GB card is a waste of $. The cheapest 1060 6GB that will fit inside his case costs $245, while the cheapest 3GB card I linked above is $170. $75 difference for a slow-paced turn-based 3D board game for what 3-4 extra frames? One of the worst ways to spend $.

Except there's a 99% likelihood he will play a different game(s) at some point in the card's useful lifespan. 3GB is a near sighted decision which will result in him having to upgrade again sooner than he would if he had the 6GB version.

 

[RussianSensation]

Except there's a 99% likelihood he will play a different game(s) at some point in the card's useful lifespan. 3GB is a near sighted decision which will result in him having to upgrade again sooner than he would if he had the 6GB version.

$75 is a lot of money for this performance class when there is just as much likelihood that because the OP is such a sporadic gamer that the next 2-3 games he plays post Civ 6 will not even benefit from a 1060 6GB vs. the 1060 3GB. Volta is launching in 2018 when the OP can sell his card for $100, take $75 savings now and buy another $175 card. Since in less than 2 years $550 980 level of performance can now be purchased in a $155 RX 480 4GB, $170 GTX1060, the idea that $75 extra spent on GTX1060 6GB vs. 1060 3GB will future-proof him for 1440p for a couple of games doesn't sound so good. In just 10 months, we went from $700 780Ti to $330 GTX970.

If the OP can stack the $25 off $200 AMEX Newegg deal then maybe I'd get the $225 1060 6GB.

It is absolutely true that GTX1060 3GB bombs against GTX1060 6GB in some games, but there are many games where 3GB is enough.

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$75 is WAY too high of a price to future proof without knowing what games the OP will play.

If you want to get down to it, then GTX1060 is simply not sufficient for 1440p/1600p gaming in the first place. If we are going to talk about future-proofing for his resolution, then might as well get GTX1070 for $370, sell Gears of War 4 for $30. GTX1060 6GB is not worth $250 for 1440/1600p gaming. You are going to be turning down settings anyway which means even the 1060 6GB is a compromise at $250. The card isn't fast enough for 1440p, while in Civ 6 both the 3GB and 6GB are nearly as fast. So what's the point of buying the GTX1060 6GB in this case? It doesn't fit the OP's resolution for modern AAA titles whatsoever. Instead of wasting $250 then, it makes way more sense to just buy the GTX1070 in the first place if the intention is to play AAA games at 2560x1600.

 

[kawi6rr]

I would go with the 480 personally, it's a great bang for the buck and should last you quite a while.

 

[littleg]

The OP also mentioned using Photoshop which may benefit from the extra vram.

Bacon1 also posted an image earlier in the thread demonstrating that Civ6 will use more than 3GB of vram if it's there.

Anyhow, if he's planning to keep the card for a few years i'd still recommend the 6GB version although RS does make some good points regarding the cost.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I vote 1060 6GB if OP just intends to play this game. If he plans to venture into other titles latter on, then he will have to reconsider adding that to his OP but as it stands right now Nvidia seems to be in front in this title and 1060 will perform well given that he has a small PC case.