Grandma Tased by Cop

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Amused

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
He could have cuffed her. ATOT, this is a 72 year old lady. The man is at least twice the woman's body weight.

It's been explained that officers are not to wrestle with suspects if they don't have to.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
He could have cuffed her. ATOT, this is a 72 year old lady. The man is at least twice the woman's body weight.

Did you watch the whole video from start to finish? If he had used the physical force necessary to get that stupid woman under control you would then be bitching about it too. The poor guy is in a no win situation.
 

Baked

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I can't stop laughing. I gotta watch that again. If she'd follow directions and didn't act like a jackass, she wouldn't have been tased, bro.
 

RESmonkey

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You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.

Ya know, he's fucked in your eyes no matter what. If he had manhandled her into cuffs, or tased her, your opinion would be the same.

The facts remain this: She resisted arrest and defied lawful orders. Tasing her was justified and probably caused the LEAST harm to her and the least risk to him.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.

Ya know, he's fucked in your eyes no matter what. If he had manhandled her into cuffs, or tased her, your opinion would be the same.

The facts remain this: She resisted arrest and defied lawful orders. Tasing her was justified and probably caused the LEAST harm to her and the least risk to him.

It's cute that you assume things. Can't spell assume without ASS. I'd be totally fine if he had just handcuffed her. Which was completely plausible, and don't fucking bullshit. I could've done it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.

Ya know, he's fucked in your eyes no matter what. If he had manhandled her into cuffs, or tased her, your opinion would be the same.

The facts remain this: She resisted arrest and defied lawful orders. Tasing her was justified and probably caused the LEAST harm to her and the least risk to him.

It's cute that you assume things. Can't spell assume without ASS. I'd be totally fine if he had just handcuffed her. Which was completely plausible, and don't fucking bullshit. I could've done it.

You could have done it without brusing her, hurting her, or (in the worst case of a lady with osteoporosis) breaking any bones?

I'd like to see that.

I ASSUMED nothing. She defied lawful orders and resisted arrest. Tasing was justified and LESS harmful than manhandling her.
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.

Ya know, he's fucked in your eyes no matter what. If he had manhandled her into cuffs, or tased her, your opinion would be the same.

The facts remain this: She resisted arrest and defied lawful orders. Tasing her was justified and probably caused the LEAST harm to her and the least risk to him.

It's cute that you assume things. Can't spell assume without ASS. I'd be totally fine if he had just handcuffed her. Which was completely plausible, and don't fucking bullshit. I could've done it.

Thank you.
 

Argo

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I see no problem with what the officer did. When you deal with criminals every day you learn not to take any chances, however miniscule they are.
 

CPA

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"I dare ya" I would have tased her right after she said that to me.
 

zerocool84

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She resisted and tried to flee. I don't see what's wrong here. For all we know she had a gun in her truck that she was going to get. Cop did what he was trained to do.
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You do not need to slam an old lady to the ground to cuff her. You simple grab one hand, grab the other, and cuff. I guess (according to Amused's post) you can consider that "wrestling" the lady, if you stretch the definition.

clearly you missed where he tried and she yanked her hand away

he did the right thing

dumb bitch should have stayed in the vehicle
 

grrl

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Originally posted by: Amused
Tasing was justified and LESS harmful than manhandling her.

I think it's a tough call. Like you said, her bones are 72 years old. When he tased her, she could have broken her hip falling to the ground.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: Amused
Tasing was justified and LESS harmful than manhandling her.

I think it's a tough call. Like you said, her bones are 72 years old. When he tased her, she could have broken her hip falling to the ground.

Or heart attack...
 

grrl

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: Amused
Tasing was justified and LESS harmful than manhandling her.

I think it's a tough call. Like you said, her bones are 72 years old. When he tased her, she could have broken her hip falling to the ground.

Or heart attack...

Yes, I forgot to mention that. That would be the more likely outcome IMO.

EDIT: Time warp!
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: Amused
Tasing was justified and LESS harmful than manhandling her.

I think it's a tough call. Like you said, her bones are 72 years old. When he tased her, she could have broken her hip falling to the ground.

And if he took her down to handcuff her she could have broken even more bones as well. He handled the situation fine.
 

QueBert

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Cops are taser happy, this video doesn't surprise me one bit. There was a time when a person resisted arrest resulted in the cop trying harder to get them to comply without using excessive force. This is a good example of excessive force. If a cop has to taser a 72 year old woman because he couldn't get her under control without excessive force, he needs to be one of the people who reads parking meters, or better yet. Give him a desk job. If she had been 25 I'm sure he would have shot her. Totally unacceptable, and he won't even get a slap on the wrist.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Cops are taser happy, this video doesn't surprise me one bit. There was a time when a person resisted arrest resulted in the cop trying harder to get them to comply without using excessive force. This is a good example of excessive force. If a cop has to taser a 72 year old woman because he couldn't get her under control without excessive force, he needs to be one of the people who reads parking meters, or better yet. Give him a desk job. If she had been 25 I'm sure he would have shot her. Totally unacceptable, and he won't even get a slap on the wrist.

You are an idiot.

Ever try to cuff someone who doesn't want to be cuffed? Sure, it can be done. With force. Statistically, officer injuries and suspect injuries are lower with the use of Tasers.

Tasers are typically on the same force level as pepper spray - below hard hand control.

How much training do you have, again?
 

arkcom

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Most people that age aren't even physically capable of putting their hands behind their backs.
 
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Bitch was asking for it. He gave her more than enough warning and she fully understood the consequences of her actions. I tend to speak out strongly against police brutality, but this woman was given the option and elected to get her ass tased.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: QueBert
Cops are taser happy, this video doesn't surprise me one bit. There was a time when a person resisted arrest resulted in the cop trying harder to get them to comply without using excessive force. This is a good example of excessive force. If a cop has to taser a 72 year old woman because he couldn't get her under control without excessive force, he needs to be one of the people who reads parking meters, or better yet. Give him a desk job. If she had been 25 I'm sure he would have shot her. Totally unacceptable, and he won't even get a slap on the wrist.

You are an idiot.

Ever try to cuff someone who doesn't want to be cuffed? Sure, it can be done. With force. Statistically, officer injuries and suspect injuries are lower with the use of Tasers.

Tasers are typically on the same force level as pepper spray - below hard hand control.

How much training do you have, again?

I have eyes and ears, and when I was growing up cops didn't use tasers on 72 year old females. You taser a woman of that age you run a good risk of her falling and breaking her hip. I would have to assume a few bruises on her wrists would infinitely outweigh falling and possibly never being able to walk again due to a broken hip. Funny how 25-30 years ago cops didn't taser people much at all, but today it seems common place. And instances like this aren't exactly "oh I can see why he did that" cases. Cops aren't trained to taser whenever they feel like it. It's a recent (fairly any ways) phenomenon. Cops are much shitter and far less competent than they were 30 years ago.

I am very out of shape and I could easily have cuffed her. She's 72, and even with her fully resisting it wouldn't be hard.
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Why does the video start in the middle of the encounter? I would have to see the full unedited video of how the woman acted from the moment he pulled her over to see if she deserved what she got.

There is no way she deserved that, period. The only thing a tiny old lady like that can say to a cop that justifies that is "I have a weapon and I'm gonna hurt you" and if she'd said that, he wouldn't have been acting the way he was at the beginning of the clip.

+1 No way an old lady deserved that. Biggest problem with the taser is the over use of the taser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv_7znbXn_0&NR=1
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Why does the video start in the middle of the encounter? I would have to see the full unedited video of how the woman acted from the moment he pulled her over to see if she deserved what she got.

There is no way she deserved that, period. The only thing a tiny old lady like that can say to a cop that justifies that is "I have a weapon and I'm gonna hurt you" and if she'd said that, he wouldn't have been acting the way he was at the beginning of the clip.

+1 No way an old lady deserved that. Biggest problem with the taser is the over use of the taser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv_7znbXn_0&NR=1

She didn't listen to an officer's commands, she resisted arrest, and trying to go back to her vehicle to possibly flee or get a weapon........she got exactly what she deserved.
 
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