Grandparents Ordered to Evict 6 Year-old Girl From Retirement Home

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TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NFS4
They want to put her in foster care instead of letting her stay with her loving grandparents -- even for a short while??

5 years is a short while?

How can the HOA ignore the one rule that defines their community? The whole reason these communities exist is to house old people who don't want to live among young people.

The grandparents are stuck. If it comes between putting the kid in a foster home or letting her stay with the grandparents, the choice should be painfully obvious.

Exceptions can be made

This debate has actually been going on for five years. By the time Kimberly's grandparents accepted that it would be best to move, the housing market had crashed. They were asking $225,000 for their house. They've lowered it to $129,000, but there are still no buyers.

Apparently this started in 2004 or early 2005. According to Zillow, real estate prices peaked in Florida in mid 2006-early 2007. They're stuck because they tried to fight it for two years before they tried to move.

I'm guessing they are refusing to make an exception because it opens them to lawsuits if they refuse to let someone else have their grandkids move in.

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
The grandparents have already taken a 100k loss on their house if they sell, should we make it even worse for them?

They're going to use the money to buy another house, right? And that house would be similarly affected by the housing market crash.

Possibly. The housing market down here is absolutely terrible. I don't know if they'll be able to make up that loss just by transferring it to another property and hoping that property ends up appreciating. That's a pretty big gamble.
 

dirtboy

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Good job HOA. That's exactly why I'm buying a home in a HOA neighborhood. Grandparents can move if they don't like it.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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as much as i HATE HOA's i gotta side on them with it. the grandparents moved to a place that says no children. sorry sucks for them but thye gotta move.


I really feel for them.
 

Ayah

Platinum Member
Jan 1, 2006
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A really sad situation but you can't "hurt" a community, to save one person.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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While I understand the grandparents POV but they moved to this location fully understand the rules of the HOA that no kids allowed. It is not like the HOA changed the rules while they live there.

I live in an apt now and some of the young kids sure are loud, even late at night. I am glad that I won't be here too long.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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and this one is for the idiots that think there's never a problem living under a hoa.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
63,428
11,757
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Originally posted by: lupi
and this one is for the idiots that think there's never a problem living under a hoa.

IME, most of the problems that arise in housing developments with a HOA are caused by people who fail to live up to the rules they agreed to when they bought the house.

I say MOST because sometimes, the rules get changed for the worse...and if you don't like the changes, usually your only recourse is to move.

The general idea behind HOA's is OK. Maintain a certain set of standards in the neighborhood. IMO, where it goes bad is when you get a set of HOA Nazi's who run around measuring everyone's grass length, compare the color of the house to a set of paint chips to be sure it meets the standards exactly, etc.

In this case, the housing development is ADULT ONLY-NO ONE UNDER 55.

If they allow these grandparents an exception, they have to allow EVERYONE an exception...pretty soon, you have 30-somethings and their hordes moving in...
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: lupi
and this one is for the idiots that think there's never a problem living under a hoa.

IME, most of the problems that arise in housing developments with a HOA are caused by people who fail to live up to the rules they agreed to when they bought the house.

I say MOST because sometimes, the rules get changed for the worse...and if you don't like the changes, usually your only recourse is to move.

The general idea behind HOA's is OK. Maintain a certain set of standards in the neighborhood. IMO, where it goes bad is when you get a set of HOA Nazi's who run around measuring everyone's grass length, compare the color of the house to a set of paint chips to be sure it meets the standards exactly, etc.

In this case, the housing development is ADULT ONLY-NO ONE UNDER 55.

If they allow these grandparents an exception, they have to allow EVERYONE an exception...pretty soon, you have 30-somethings and their hordes moving in...

So they are to send the girl into foster care?
 

vhx

Golden Member
Jul 19, 2006
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Pretty bullshit. Anyone who agrees with this HOA is human scum as far as I am concerned.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
63,428
11,757
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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: lupi
and this one is for the idiots that think there's never a problem living under a hoa.

IME, most of the problems that arise in housing developments with a HOA are caused by people who fail to live up to the rules they agreed to when they bought the house.

I say MOST because sometimes, the rules get changed for the worse...and if you don't like the changes, usually your only recourse is to move.

The general idea behind HOA's is OK. Maintain a certain set of standards in the neighborhood. IMO, where it goes bad is when you get a set of HOA Nazi's who run around measuring everyone's grass length, compare the color of the house to a set of paint chips to be sure it meets the standards exactly, etc.

In this case, the housing development is ADULT ONLY-NO ONE UNDER 55.

If they allow these grandparents an exception, they have to allow EVERYONE an exception...pretty soon, you have 30-somethings and their hordes moving in...

So they are to send the girl into foster care?



No. They move.

 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Change the damn HOA rules. If everyone in that community isn't fighting FOR the 6 year old girl and her grandparents, there is something wrong with them.

Allowing a 6 year old to stay with her grandparents will not destroy the planet, and these rules aren't there to protect their older residents from annihilation, it's clearly something that should be flexible enough for situations like these. Stupid HOA. If I were the president of it, I would resign in disgust of myself and it.
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: sash1
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
So they are to send the girl into foster care?

No. They move.

and they would have already if they could. another link of the story with a video. at the end they say how they can't afford another house, they need to sell the one they're in before they move out.

"I hear more dogs barking then I did kids running up and down the street."

I wonder if there's an app for that?
 
May 16, 2000
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Every board member of every HOA in the United States should be publicly hung, and the formation of a new HOA should be punishable by death by firing squad. Problems all solved.

There is NOTHING good or necessary about HOAs. Fuck them all, and EVERYONE who participates in them.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
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www.slatebrookfarm.com
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I wish house prices would drop like that here in NY.

Housing prices are very reasonable in NY. I think you need a "C" at the end of that for it to have any meaning.

edit: and, this is a retirement village. I have no problem with the HOA on this one, but it would be nice if the HOA was willing to give the family time to find a new place.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Where are the communities with no colored allowed? Oh yea, you can't do that. Fucking over someone's only ok when a law hasn't been specifically written against it. Because law is what defines the right thing to do, not common sense, or kindergarten level intelligence :^S
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
10,539
0
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Every board member of every HOA in the United States should be publicly hung, and the formation of a new HOA should be punishable by death by firing squad. Problems all solved.

There is NOTHING good or necessary about HOAs. Fuck them all, and EVERYONE who participates in them.
ARRGGGghhh ...setting fire to bales of hay and grabbing a pitch fork....

 

xj0hnx

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2007
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Where are the communities with no colored allowed? Oh yea, you can't do that. Fucking over someone's only ok when a law hasn't been specifically written against it. Because law is what defines the right thing to do, not common sense, or kindergarten level intelligence :^S

Just like reverse racism is not only accepted, but encouraged, so is reverse ageism. Those damn kids.
 

2Xtreme21

Diamond Member
Jun 13, 2004
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I'm gonna make sure I start an HOA where anyone over 55 is not able to set foot inside the neighborhood. If any of my residents are caught associating with someone 55+ in the neighborhood, they'll be immediately evicted. I want this place to be free from old, smelly geezers who drive slow and fart all the time.
 

paulxcook

Diamond Member
May 1, 2005
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This is ass fucking backwards, and anyone supporting the HOA side of it should re-evaluate their humanity. Blue hairs wanting peace and quiet should not trump a child having a stable home after being saved from a dangerous drug-filled home life. To take her out of that and put her in foster care is 99 kinds of retarded. WTF cares if it sets a precedent, that is what case-by-case judgement and common sense is for. But I'm assuming HOAs can use common sense and judgement.
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: vhx
Pretty bullshit. Anyone who agrees with this HOA is human scum as far as I am concerned.

.....? WTF, that doesn't make sense. They signed a contract knowingly aware of the stipulations...they are in violation.
Lets say you signed a job contract for $50,000/year. Your paychecks after two weeks of working is only $50. Thats okay right? The company needed the money for something else. You're never going to get it. So now if you feel as if you're entitled to the money, you are human scum.



You're thinking "BUT WTF, that isn't even a fair comparison!" think about it for a bit....scum
 
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