Graphics card confusion

[apoc1999]

What i need to know about is in bold.

I currently have a Radeon 9800pro 256m, with a ABIT KV8 pro motherboard, 1gb of ram and a Athlon 64[tm] 3000+ proccesore. I would like to upgrade my graphics card for gameing, and i know that i support AGP slot, so what card [if any one has a refrence] should i get that price ranges between 100-120$

p.s. I would like to run the upcomeing release, Hellgate london

Its requirements:

OS: Windows XP with SP2 or Windows Vista
* Processor: 1 .8GHz or faster (2.4GHz for Vista)
* RAM: 1GB or more (2GB for Vista)
* Video: DirectX 9.0c/10 compatible device w/ 128MB RAM or better and Pixel Shader 2.0 support; requires NVIDIA GeForce 6200/ATI Radeon 9000 chipset or greater
* Audio: DirectX 9.0c compatible device
* Disc drive: 8x DVD or faster
* Hard drive: 6 GB or more free space
* Input: Keyboard and mouse
* Internet: Connection required for multiplayer

 

[apoc1999]

Can any one help?

 

[apoc1999]

bump

 

[brunell8]

Maybe wait a little longer than 20 minutes for a response. :laugh:

 

[apoc1999]

good point, im not really doing any thing right now ... an i dont have to be to work tell 2pm so ill wait for a hit.

 

[ManWithNoName]

The 7600GT is just a hair outside your budget , but it's a damn good card and you shouldn't need a new power supply to run it. I may have suggest a X1950 Pro or GT, but they are even more expensive and power demands are higher.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814130099

 

[Rockhound1]

For your budget ($100 - $120), I think your best bet will be a new 7600GT. Here is a link to an XFX card at Newegg (Link).

You could always look for something better in the FS/FT forum.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Sapphire X1950GT $135 shipped .

X1950GT owning the 7600GT every step of the way.

Sapphire X1650 $75 shipped The X1650 easily meets the req's for that game and leaves you money to spare.

Also please do not bump your thread in under 4 hours simply to reply. As per forum rules you cannot make any post in under 4 hours for any reason. Edit an existing post if you feel the need to reply 5 mins after someone posts a message in one of your threads.

 

[apoc1999]

7600gt seems a little more in my budget, i dont worry about heat issues i have 4 internal and one external fan on my comp with case open and i was thinking about purchaseing a new internal fan. the 7600GT seems like it can run good graphics aswell? Im new to the hardware scene with computers so all the info i can get is great.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Interesting, if you compare the 7600GT cards Rockhound and I suggested it presents you with an interesting choice. The EVGA comes with 512MB of GDDR2 and has a core speed of 580Mhz. While the XFX EVGA 7600GT Rockhound linked you to has 256 MB of GDDR3 and a core speed of 560 Mhz. The XFX card is cheaper by $15 if you count the $20 rebate. Personally, I'm leaning towards the XFX card which can probably be overclocked.

Here's a good read on 256MB vs. 512MB cards .....

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33-6.html

 

[apoc1999]

I found a cheaper 7600gt, but its 580mhz not 560mhz... Whats the diffrence if i may ask

EDIT

heres the link to the cheaper one

http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GEFORC...VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
Sapphire X1950GT $135 shipped .

X1950GT owning the 7600GT every step of the way.

Sapphire X1650 $75 shipped The X1650 easily meets the req's for that game and leaves you money to spare.

Also please do not bump your thread in under 4 hours simply to reply. As per forum rules you cannot make any post in under 4 hours for any reason. Edit an existing post if you feel the need to reply 5 mins after someone posts a message in one of your threads.

I agree, the Sapphire X1950GT would be an excellent choice as I mentioned briefly, but it's over his budget and may require a power supply upgrade as well. I asked him about his power supply a few posts down to see if the suggestion is a viable one.

As far as the X1650 Pro, that is slower than the 7600GT. But it is cheap however.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: apoc1999
I found a cheaper 7600gt, but its 580mhz not 560mhz... Whats the diffrence if i may ask

EDIT

heres the link to the cheaper one

http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GEFORC...VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The difference is 20 mhz. No I'm not being a smartass. XFX does this all the time. They release virtually 2 identical models except for the core clocks. The XFX 580 mhz. model appears on NewEgg for $139.

What power supply do you have by the way? Make and Model. Dazed and Confused mentioned as I did the X1950GT which can be had for close to what you would pay for the 7600GT on EBay with the $11.00 shipping.

 

[apoc1999]

wow, there a few cards to choose from..... This makes things difficult, iv'e been compareing the -Radeon X1650 256MB GDDR2 AGP- to the -GEFORCE 7600GT 256MB 580MHZ DDR3 AGP- and its a hard choice, ones cheaper then the other but do i want to sacrafice quality for price?

 

[apoc1999]

THE make and model of my power supply i beleive is:

Make: MGE
Model: LC-B450E

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: apoc1999
I found a cheaper 7600gt, but its 580mhz not 560mhz... Whats the diffrence if i may ask

EDIT

heres the link to the cheaper one

http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GEFORC...VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The difference is 20 mhz. No I'm not being a smartass. XFX does this all the time. They release virtually 2 identical models except for the core clocks. The XFX 580 mhz. model appears on NewEgg for $139.

What power supply do you have by the way? Make and Model. Dazed and Confused mentioned as I did the X1950GT which can be had for close to what you would pay for the 7600GT on EBay with the $11.00 shipping.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: apoc1999
wow, there a few cards to choose from..... This makes things difficult, iv'e been compareing the -Radeon X1650 256MB GDDR2 AGP- to the -GEFORCE 7600GT 256MB 580MHZ DDR3 AGP- and its a hard choice, ones cheaper then the other but do i want to sacrafice quality for price?

Take a look at these charts They're handy for a quick comparison of cards. It may help you decide which way to go.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/...6&model2=735&chart=301

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: apoc1999
THE make and model of my power supply i beleive is:

Make: MGE
Model: LC-B450E

At first glance I would have to say no to the X1950GT unless you want to get a new power supply. It seems everyone has slapped their label on the LC-B450E from Super Talent to Xion. So it appears to be very generic and the amps on the +12v rail(s) appear to be about 22a. This is a guestimate based on one of the dual rails units I found having this model number.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName
Interesting, if you compare the 7600GT cards Rockhound and I suggested it presents you with an interesting choice. The EVGA comes with 512MB of GDDR2 and has a core speed of 580Mhz. While the XFX EVGA 7600GT Rockhound linked you to has 256 MB of GDDR3 and a core speed of 560 Mhz. The XFX card is cheaper by $15 if you count the $20 rebate. Personally, I'm leaning towards the XFX card which can probably be overclocked.

Here's a good read on 256MB vs. 512MB cards .....

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33-6.html

Based on the article you linked to, it mentions that the 512MB only makes a difference for higher end cards "7800GT or higher".

The 7600GT is at best a mid-range card so the extra memory probably won't make a large difference. Plus GDDR3 is a big step up from GDDR2.

Go with the XFX card.

 

[apoc1999]

so...what might you also recomend?....btw thanks for the help so far

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Based on the article you linked to, it mentions that the 512MB only makes a difference for higher end cards "7800GT or higher".

The 7600GT is at best a mid-range card so the extra memory probably won't make a large difference. Plus GDDR3 is a big step up from GDDR2.

Go with the XFX card.

Which is why I said I was leaning toward the XFX Card with GDDR3 as well in my previous post. But this was also part of my thought process. Personally, I hate dealing with rebates as many do, and if you remove the rebate on the XFX, the EVGA 512MB card costs $124.99 and the XFX 256 MB card is $129.99 with a lower default core, although it can likely be overclocked a bit. I guess I'd still go with the XFX at $129.99 because the deciding factor here should be the GDDR3, not the amount of VRAM and $5.00.

 

[apoc1999]

If the XFX GEFORCE 7600GT 256MB 580MHZ DDR3 AGP will work with my power supply then ill buy it cause i can get it on ebay for 122$ I have to goto work so ill be back on later tonight when i get off, thanks for all the help. Ill pm with further questions if you dont mind.

thnks

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: apoc1999
If the XFX GEFORCE 7600GT 256MB 580MHZ DDR3 AGP will work with my power supply then ill buy it cause i can get it on ebay for 122$ I have to goto work so ill be back on later tonight when i get off, thanks for all the help. Ill pm with further questions if you dont mind.

thnks

Your power supply should handle it fine. The 7600GT doesn't eat much. Good luck.