Great article about IBM Blue Brain.

zinfamous

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:shocked:

wow. I was living with a dude that worked at the EPFL (now retired) while I was visiting Switzerland several years ago. I had no idea that they had these types of projects going on.
 

jjones

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Great. The consequences of this kind of research will be devastating.

I'm putting together the welcome basket for our Blue Brain overlords as we speak.
 

lozina

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wow, fascinating read.

I wish I understood how he plans to recreate experiences in the brain through this model though. I didn't get that at all.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: jjones
Great. The consequences of this kind of research will be devastating.

I'm putting together the welcome basket for our Blue Brain overlords as we speak.

i, for one, welcome our new blue brain overlords and would be happy to contribute to your welcome basket.

maybe we will be spared the joys of having our minds trapped in the matrix while our bodies provide necessary electricity.

 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: lozina
wow, fascinating read.

I wish I understood how he plans to recreate experiences in the brain through this model though. I didn't get that at all.

I believe he was referring to visualizing, auditorizing or otherwise representing neural processes into a form that can be perceived by another brain.

Something like this was done with a pin array in a rat a few years ago. The visual information was represented in a fairly low resolution colorless stream, but it was there, through brain observation alone.

The idea then is perhaps to extend this to high resolution recording of visual information, auditory information, perhaps thoughts and feelings represented by words and maybe even recording of dreams.

In other words, he wants to extract the concepts from the noise. As he said, it shouldn't be very difficult to do this for stimuli, because responses can be observed directly from input, but decoding deeper thoughts will be more complicated.
 

frostedflakes

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I find this stuff extremely fascinating, but can only imagine the social, political, and religious implications. I wonder how long until we'll be walking around with our Ghost in the Shell style cyberbrains?
 

Modelworks

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According to Markram, the patch clamp robot helped the Blue Brain team redo 30 years of research in six months

Yes, but redo it into what ?

Its slowly altering research to obtain its goal.
To be the first intelligent lifeform to run for president !
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: jjones
Great. The consequences of this kind of research will be devastating.

I'm putting together the welcome basket for our Blue Brain overlords as we speak.

Part of the welcome basket will be a sliver of your brain. I have nothing to worry about. Blue Brain will be allergic to my humble offerings.
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
According to Markram, the patch clamp robot helped the Blue Brain team redo 30 years of research in six months

Yes, but redo it into what ?

Redo it the right way. He mentioned they couldn't use existing scientific data because it was effectively junk.

The problem with many biologists is that they have absolutely no foresight and imagination, they expect humanity to make headway by hiring vast sums of biologists to manually probe cells for a thousand years, after which they hope there will be some residue of truth in their conflicting data.

We're fortunate there are people and companies willing to push things forward and eventually make the signature biologist obsolete.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff


We're fortunate there are people and companies willing to push things forward and eventually make the signature biologist obsolete.

We heard him say , the second before a giant terminator smashed him into bits.
 

yhelothar

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Wow that is absolutely mindblowing!
It looks like ray kurzweil's prediction that computers would be able to pass the turing test by the turn of the next decade is manifesting itself.
And then it would only be a matter of time before we create limitless intelligence.
 

Vageetasjn

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Originally posted by: astroidea
Wow that is absolutely mindblowing!
It looks like ray kurzweil's prediction that computers would be able to pass the turing test by the turn of the next decade is manifesting itself.
And then it would only be a matter of time before we create limitless intelligence.

I thought he had that pegged as a (perhaps overly conservative) year 2029 accomplishment.

Though this blue brain thing might turn out to be the first human-level AI, it doesn't seem like the most elegant path.
 
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