GREAT Political QUOTES

[etech]

Moonie, you really ought to read the web sites that you link to.

Heinlein as facist.
"This Web site will attempt to educate the public that Heinlein's writings show the core beliefs beliefs Heinlein expressed through his professional life can be described best as "libertarian." He favored minimal government interference in people's private lives and believed people should be responsible for themselves." Heinlein as facist.

From you second link
"Which brings me to a final point. I've read many opinions lately, calling the book (and the movie more so) fascist. I even thought so once myself. While I still think the book is an empty, manipulative piece of militaristic propaganda, I've come to realize Starship Troopers has nothing to do with fascism."

Of course fascism is not "mega-nazi" but I belive the point has been made.

It makes you look rather stupid when the site objective is to prove the oposite of what you says it does. Please note also that the book Starship Troopers was written before Stranger in a Strange Land which also negates thomsbrains erroneous statement of "Heinlein is interesting because he went from mega-hippy to mega-nazi in just a few short years".

Now if you or thomsbrain wants to compare the libetarians to the Nazis, feel free, but I would not suggest it. Also, if you read Heinleins Grimbles From the Grave you will note that like many authors of fiction, you cannot assume that the author is a proponent of all that he writes.

 

[worth]

That's great, trying to prove that Heinlein is a fascist by linking to a site that shows that his life "can be described best as 'libertarian'." Maybe you should read the links you get off google, eh?

 

[Moonbeam]

I read them, etech. They both referred to the FACT that Heinlein is called a Fascist. My point was that it is, apparently, a common, though according to those links, a mistaken opinion people have of him.

People see what they are looking for, as you just proved.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I read them, etech. They both referred to the FACT that Heinlein is called a Fascist. My point was that it is, apparently, a common, though according to those links, a mistaken opinion people have of him.

People see what they are looking for, as you just proved.

It seems that few people here owe Moonie an apology...

 

[Moonbeam]

Nemesis, if you really mean few own me, I agree. If you mean 'A few' owe me, well, to be perfectly honest, it wasn't as though I didn't know what interpretation would be made. I just wanted to show that people can form mistakened opinions without that making them criminals.

 

[rayma2]

Brutuskend strikes again..

 

[Gaard]

You can't have a funny political quotes topic without some by Dan Quayle.

<<"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.">>

<<"We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world." >>

<<"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican." >>

<<"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." >>

<<"For NASA, space is still a high priority.">>

<<"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." >>

<<"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." >>

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." >>


And of course the most famous statement made by Al Gore...
<<"As many of you know, I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet" >>

 

[Joony]

"I am not a crook"

-Nixon

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: etech
One more.

Col. DuBois in Starship Troopers
Their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified the mythology of rights... and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can survive.

--Robert A. Heinlein


lirion, what does the smiley face mean? I could make a lot of guesses which may or may not include that you are too unintelligent to form a coherent post and are limited to symbols to express yourself.

Heinlein is interesting because he went from mega-hippy to mega-nazi in just a few short years

You've obviously misread him.

 

[hagbard]

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin, 1759

 

[Harvey]

What a pile of Bush-Wit:

One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected.
Los Angeles, 9/27/00.

It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas.
Beaverton, Ore., Sep. 25, 2000

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

More and more of our imports are coming from overseas.
NPR's Morning Edition 9/26/2000

You know I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office.
1989

One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'
12/6/93

I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

You can find much more in George W. Bushisms : The Slate Book of The Accidental Wit and Wisdom of our 43rd President, edited by Jacob Weisberg

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Harvey
What a pile of Bush-Wit:

One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected.
Los Angeles, 9/27/00.

It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas.
Beaverton, Ore., Sep. 25, 2000

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

More and more of our imports are coming from overseas.
NPR's Morning Edition 9/26/2000

You know I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office.
1989

One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'
12/6/93

I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

You can find much more in George W. Bushisms : The Slate Book of The Accidental Wit and Wisdom of our 43rd President, edited by Jacob Weisberg

I don't see what is wrong with most of those quotes.

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: Harvey
What a pile of Bush-Wit:
One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'
12/6/93

odd, that quote is usually attributed to Dan Quayle,

One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is `to be prepared'.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle, 12/6/89 (reported in Esquire, 8/92)

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I read them, etech. They both referred to the FACT that Heinlein is called a Fascist. My point was that it is, apparently, a common, though according to those links, a mistaken opinion people have of him.

People see what they are looking for, as you just proved.

It seems that few people here owe Moonie an apology...

So apparently some misguided people called Heinlein a fascist. thomsbrain called him a mega-nazi. Showing that some stupid people called one of the great science fiction writes of our age a fascist does not prove a thing one way or the other. The fact is Heinlein was not a fascist nor a "mega-nazi". That was the only point in contention. Considering the thead title that Moonie put "Heinlein as a fascist", no apology is neccessary or forthcoming.


One of the interesting things about political quotes. Notice how many people continue to post Dan Qualye quotes. Now the poor guy is pretty much out of politics as far as I know yet some still focus only on his mistatements. They do not argue policies or positions but only roll out the same misstatements time after time. Do these people just perfer style over substance? I believe it's the same people that do the same to Pres. Bush. Is this a symptom of the left or do they have nothing better to attack with them the quotes of a politician from 10 years ago.


Attributed to both
Winston Churchill -"If a man is not a liberal at the age of twenty, he has no heart; if a man is not conservative by the age of forty, he has no brain"

and Clemenceau -" any man who is not a socialist at twenty has no heart and any man who is still a socialist at forty has no brain."

Unquote
Who actually said it seems to be in some dispute.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Yomicron

odd, that quote is usually attributed to Dan Quayle

One word -- Click here.

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Yomicron

odd, that quote is usually attributed to Dan Quayle

One word -- Click here.

I wasn't saying you were wrong, but Click here.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Yomicron

odd, that quote is usually attributed to Dan Quayle

One word -- Click here.

How is "click here" one word?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see what is wrong with most of those quotes.

I hope you're joking. If not, you have just defined the typical Bush voter.

 

[0roo0roo]

And of course the most famous statement made by Al Gore...
<<"As many of you know, I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet" >>

horrible misqoute. go look up the actual qoute and be prepared to use a dictionary so u can figure out what he really meant.

only a knuckle dragging right winger brings up that misinformation time and time again.

never underestimate the stupidity of the american public. conservatives never do.

 

[0roo0roo]

what right wing website did you get that off of.


who lists great political qoutes without once mentioning ones from either jfk, his brother or dr king?

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
*Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
--Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)

Is there any doubt this came from a Frenchman?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Yomicron
I wasn't saying you were wrong, but Click here.

Hmm... I just entered the sentence in Google (in quotes), with no reference to Bush, and posted a link to the page that came up. Interestingly, the fourth link in your page attributes the quote to Al Gore. :Q; Go figure.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see what is wrong with most of those quotes.

I hope you're joking. If not, you have just defined the typical Bush voter.

Yep, Harvey is one of those I was talking about earlier. Style over substance. It's obvious in almost everyone of the misquotes what Quayle intended to say and meant. Harvey would rather pay attention to those slips and try to imply that they mean something other than a nervous public speaker that stumbled over some words. That seems to be the shallow type of thinking that lost the democrats so many seats in the last election.

 

[Gaard]

Of course, there's always the possibility that if one posts a bunch of humerous Quayle quotes, it isn't because his character is flawed, or he's somehow for or against a certain party or movement...it could be just that he's a softball playin, Miller drinkin, suburbanite who happens to find the statements funny.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: etech
Yep, Harvey is one of those I was talking about earlier. Style over substance. It's obvious in almost everyone of the misquotes what Quayle intended to say and meant. Harvey would rather pay attention to those slips and try to imply that they mean something other than a nervous public speaker that stumbled over some words. That seems to be the shallow type of thinking that lost the democrats so many seats in the last election.

This is obviously mostly a fluff humor thread, but I researched every one of the quotes I posted and found multiple, credible links assigning them to Bush-lite, who really happens to be, at best, marginally literate. So, the best you can do is call my links "misquotes," call me names, and question my crediblity with bullsh8 like "Style over substance." At least, you noticed that I have some style.

Thanks for providing yourself as another fine example to prove the my point. If you want substance, with names and facts, try my post in this thread regarding the quality of our idiot President in most of his recent appointments and decisions. It's way too long to repost, here, unless you really want to kill a fun thread.

Also, anyone who can't see the errors in those quotes needs to go to school and polish their reading comprehension skills, starting at about a sixth grade reading level. That probably wouldn't hurt George Bush, Jr. or Dan Quayle, either.