Greatest NFL head coach ever......

[bignateyk]

wrong post.. lol

.. guess thats what happens when i have like 4 threads open in tabs and reply to them

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Montano
Bill Walsh.

What took so long to name that guy. Several current coaches worked under him

 

[Homerboy]

dont undertand why everyone is adding a "but..." next to Lombardi. He dominated the sport at the time. Its impossible to say that he couldnt do what he did today because of FAs etc, but who's to say any of today's coaches could have done well in Lombardi's era? Everything is relative, and comparitvely speaking, Lombardi dominated his era.

 

[KMFJD]

Wayne Fontes

 

[chr6]

gibbs

 

[classy]

For a headcoach its almost impossible to determine who is the best ever, because its very difficult to establish a baseline criteria. Is it wins, is it superbowls, is it the ability to create, is it winning with inferior talent.

You could make an arguement for so many its ridiculous here is just few off the top of my head

Shula
Lombardi
Knoll
Landry
Belichick
Parcells
Gibbs
Johnson
Walsh

And there is probably a few more to boot.

 

[ProfJohn]

Tom Landry: During his run he won 2 Super Bowl titles (1972,78), 5 NFC titles, 13 Divisional titles; and compiled a 270-178-6 record, the 3rd most wins of all time for an NFL coach. His 5 Super bowl apperances ties Shula for the most. He invented the 4-3 defense and the "flex" defense and perhaps biggest contribution the use of "pre-shifting" where the offense would shift from one formation to the other before the snap of the ball he was also one of the first coaches to extensively use the "man in motion"
At one time FIVE of his former assistant coaches were working as head coaches. Including Ditka and Dan Reeves who have 5 Super Bowl appearences between them.

John Madden: Madden guided the Raiders to 103 victories, 32 losses and 7 ties, including seven division titles and six seasons of 10 wins or more. Madden has the highest regular season winning percentage (.759) for a coach in NFL history with over 100 career wins. In addition, his overall winning percentage (including playoff games) ranked second behind only legendary Green Bay Packers coach Vince Lombardi.

Lombardi: see above and his 105-35-6 record as a head coach, never suffering a losing season



Note: Bill Parcells is not in the Hall of Fame because he has yet to retire, a coach must retire before going into the hall. Therefore, Joe Gibbs is the ONLY Hall of Famer coaching football today, perhaps ever.

 

[DainBramaged]

Tom Landry
Vince Lombardi
Bill Parcells
Bill Belichick

 

[RightIsWrong]

Just out of curiosity.....how does Belichick make everyone's top 10 over Cowher?

Belichick has been a head coach for 11 seasons with a total of 5 of those being losing seasons (3 with double digit loss totals).
Cowhere has been a head coach for 14 seasons with a total of 3 of those being losing seasons (2 with double digit loss totals).

Cowher tied Paul Brown's record of starting off his coaching career with six consecutive playoff seasons, youngest coach to reach the Super Bowl, 8 division titles, 2 wild card berths, the Steelers have the best record in all of pro football since Cowher became their coach and has amassed a 141 - 82 record over that time (over 63% winning percentage) compared to Belichicks record of 110-79 (just over 58 winning percentage). If Belichick is responsible for the success of the Pats because of his coaching, then he is just as much to blame for the suckiness of the Browns when he was their coach (36-44 record overall).

All of this leads us to believe that:

Cowher >> Belichick

My top 10:

1. Walsh (Championships and prodigies that also won championships...Inspired a whole new dimension of offense that is still heavily utilized today 25+ years later)
2. Lombardi (Mean and knew that second place was just first loser)
3. Halas (Coached and ran the day to day operations of the team as it's owner also. Most wins (324) over the course of a lifetime until Shula passed him up in the late 80s)
4. Shula (You don't win more games than anyone without knowing your sh*t)
5. P. Brown (Seven championships and helped form the league we are debating about today)
6. Gibbs (As stated, three championships with three different QBs and making Skins football actually matter again today)
7. Noll (Took one of the most laughable organizations in league history and molded them into a dynasty)
8. Landry (You don't get to stay on the job for 28 years for nothing....2 championships and almost a hundred more wins than losses)
9. Cowher (See above)
10. Madden (Great win percentage, but would have liked to see if he could have done it over a longer period of time)


Also rans:

Hank Stram: ~55% win percentage doesn't get you on the list
Jimmie Johnson: Maybe if this were combined with your college record...but 7 years as coach doesn't make you one of the best ever
Belichick: Cleveland stain drags down the job that you have done in Patsyland causing you to just miss
Parcells: You have the championships, but your abysmal record of late has tarnished your early success (~57% win percentage doesn't help either)

 

[rise]

so gibbs starts the season 0-2 tomorrow. top notch :beer: