It is fairly obvious from the video that the Greenpeace boat was intent on ramming the whaling ship...no evasive actions in the world will prevent a collision with asshats intent on stirring up controversy.The whaler could easily have turned the other way or even tried putting her engines astern. But as both videos show, apart from blasting on the loudspeaker she took no action EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE VESSEL REQUIRED TO DO SO.
Originally posted by: Agrooreo
That greenpeace captian has some balls though.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So if a smaller vessel intentionally rams the larger less manuverable one, it's the larger's fault? It seems that the Greenpeace boat was intent on this happening regardless of the action taken by the whaler.
BTW, if this is the case, how is Greenpeace allowed to own and operate ships anyway?
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
It is fairly obvious from the video that the Greenpeace boat was intent on ramming the whaling ship...no evasive actions in the world will prevent a collision with asshats intent on stirring up controversy.The whaler could easily have turned the other way or even tried putting her engines astern. But as both videos show, apart from blasting on the loudspeaker she took no action EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE VESSEL REQUIRED TO DO SO.
I think if it is proven that the Greenpeace ship intentionally created the conditions for the collision, that is a different story.That is true but what the video shows is something else. The greenpeace ship took action to avoid collision byt the whaler took none despite being required to do so.
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
It is fairly obvious from the video that the Greenpeace boat was intent on ramming the whaling ship...no evasive actions in the world will prevent a collision with asshats intent on stirring up controversy.The whaler could easily have turned the other way or even tried putting her engines astern. But as both videos show, apart from blasting on the loudspeaker she took no action EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE VESSEL REQUIRED TO DO SO.
That is true but what the video shows is something else. The greenpeace ship took action to avoid collision byt the whaler took none despite being required to do so.
Look I'm no great fan of Greenpeace but that clip is clear on the whalers fault.
Originally posted by: realsup
Where are the French when they are really needed? Clearly Greenpeace rams the Japanese boat and then tries to blame the Japanese.
Link to Japanese video
Herei s the Greenpeace page with there video.
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Duckzilla
Killing whales is one of the greatest evils of the modern era. With a nation as advanced as the 'Nese, you?d think they shouldn't want to kill intelligent, graceful mammals like whales.
Advanced, or backwards? History will record it.
When it come right down to it, they aren?t much different than they were 6o+ years ago.
yes, being one of the most industrious nations in the world, with an giant economy at a fraction of the size of most other major industrial nations, all the while maintaining their ancient dignity in most everyday life is certainly equal to raping and murdering several thousand people.
Originally posted by: Stifko
Originally posted by: Agrooreo
That greenpeace captian has some balls though.
Yeah he does, and I bet that he doesn't think that an ant or a whale are essentially the same in so far as expendibility.
Kamikazi is a pretty honorable way to go out...intentionally sacrificing oneself for Emperor and country...I think its more a cultural difference, as American and Allied forces during WW2 could never understand the stubborn and suicidal Japanese forces who refused to surrender even in the face of defeat.They've never fought a war with any honor either, first they were saved by hurricanes then they slaughtered millions in Asia and used kamikaze.
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Kamikazi is a pretty honorable way to go out...intentionally sacrificing oneself for Emperor and country...I think its more a cultural difference, as American and Allied forces during WW2 could never understand the stubborn and suicidal Japanese forces who refused to surrender even in the face of defeat.They've never fought a war with any honor either, first they were saved by hurricanes then they slaughtered millions in Asia and used kamikaze.
That being said, I fully support Japanese kamikaze of Greenpeace boats.
Lets be fair here. The Greenpeace ship was moving slowly all the time - look at both videos again. You can see the bow wake.Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
That is true but what the video shows is something else. The greenpeace ship took action to avoid collision byt the whaler took none despite being required to do so.Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
It is fairly obvious from the video that the Greenpeace boat was intent on ramming the whaling ship...no evasive actions in the world will prevent a collision with asshats intent on stirring up controversy.The whaler could easily have turned the other way or even tried putting her engines astern. But as both videos show, apart from blasting on the loudspeaker she took no action EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE VESSEL REQUIRED TO DO SO.
Look I'm no great fan of Greenpeace but that clip is clear on the whalers fault.
Uhh the greenpeace ship stopped and started again and hit the ship. That destroys their idea of avoiding anything.
Originally posted by: AragornTK
um... Japanese and Chinese are nothing alike... other than their languages sounding similar to us foreigners...
It's like saying Scandinavians and Russians are the same...
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Duckzilla
Killing whales is one of the greatest evils of the modern era. With a nation as advanced as the 'Nese, you?d think they shouldn't want to kill intelligent, graceful mammals like whales.
Advanced, or backwards? History will record it.
When it come right down to it, they aren?t much different than they were 6o+ years ago.
yes, being one of the most industrious nations in the world, with an giant economy at a fraction of the size of most other major industrial nations, all the while maintaining their ancient dignity in most everyday life is certainly equal to raping and murdering several thousand people.
Wow Japanese fanboy to the rescue!
What ancient dignity? They're pretty much transplanted Chinese who hate the Chinese.
They've never fought a war with any honor either, first they were saved by hurricanes then they slaughtered millions in Asia and used kamikaze.
Originally posted by: Purgatory-Z
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Duckzilla
Killing whales is one of the greatest evils of the modern era. With a nation as advanced as the 'Nese, you?d think they shouldn't want to kill intelligent, graceful mammals like whales.
Advanced, or backwards? History will record it.
When it come right down to it, they aren?t much different than they were 6o+ years ago.
yes, being one of the most industrious nations in the world, with an giant economy at a fraction of the size of most other major industrial nations, all the while maintaining their ancient dignity in most everyday life is certainly equal to raping and murdering several thousand people.
Wow Japanese fanboy to the rescue!
What ancient dignity? They're pretty much transplanted Chinese who hate the Chinese.
They've never fought a war with any honor either, first they were saved by hurricanes then they slaughtered millions in Asia and used kamikaze.
That's a less than intelligent remark. To call the Japanese dishonorable is a complete travesty. I suggest you research their history before making such comments.
Originally posted by: Purgatory-Z
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Duckzilla
Killing whales is one of the greatest evils of the modern era. With a nation as advanced as the 'Nese, you?d think they shouldn't want to kill intelligent, graceful mammals like whales.
Advanced, or backwards? History will record it.
When it come right down to it, they aren?t much different than they were 6o+ years ago.
yes, being one of the most industrious nations in the world, with an giant economy at a fraction of the size of most other major industrial nations, all the while maintaining their ancient dignity in most everyday life is certainly equal to raping and murdering several thousand people.
Wow Japanese fanboy to the rescue!
What ancient dignity? They're pretty much transplanted Chinese who hate the Chinese.
They've never fought a war with any honor either, first they were saved by hurricanes then they slaughtered millions in Asia and used kamikaze.
That's a less than intelligent remark. To call the Japanese dishonorable is a complete travesty. I suggest you research their history before making such comments.
Originally posted by: realsup
Where are the French when they are really needed? Clearly Greenpeace rams the Japanese boat and then tries to blame the Japanese.
Link to Japanese video
Herei s the Greenpeace page with there video.
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Tentacle porn doesn't countI've researched their history genious.
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Lets be fair here. The Greenpeace ship was moving slowly all the time - look at both videos again. You can see the bow wake.Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
That is true but what the video shows is something else. The greenpeace ship took action to avoid collision byt the whaler took none despite being required to do so.Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
It is fairly obvious from the video that the Greenpeace boat was intent on ramming the whaling ship...no evasive actions in the world will prevent a collision with asshats intent on stirring up controversy.The whaler could easily have turned the other way or even tried putting her engines astern. But as both videos show, apart from blasting on the loudspeaker she took no action EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE VESSEL REQUIRED TO DO SO.
Look I'm no great fan of Greenpeace but that clip is clear on the whalers fault.
Uhh the greenpeace ship stopped and started again and hit the ship. That destroys their idea of avoiding anything.