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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part of that show being basically an upgraded soap in a hospital is that the babes aren't even very hot. Sandra Oh is one of those most homely asian women I've seen, and that white chick is the definition of bland looking. I haven't watched the show so maybe there's some other babes, but those two stuck me as the main characters and they stink. If you want me to watch trash television when nothing else is on, you damn well better pack it full of some high quality hotties, because god knows I'm not going to sit through that kind of crap without some kind of payoff.
Addison and Izzie are hot. Do they count?

I don't know who they are, they should cram them into the commercials. All I ever see from the commercials is that plain girl pining over the dude with the hair.

It's because the only guys who watch the show are those forced by the women in their lives. So the ads don't need to feature hot chicks, nothing will conivnce a guy to watch this show so , instead, they try to get more chicks to watch it by showing the guy with the nice hair.
 

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part of that show being basically an upgraded soap in a hospital is that the babes aren't even very hot. Sandra Oh is one of those most homely asian women I've seen, and that white chick is the definition of bland looking. I haven't watched the show so maybe there's some other babes, but those two stuck me as the main characters and they stink. If you want me to watch trash television when nothing else is on, you damn well better pack it full of some high quality hotties, because god knows I'm not going to sit through that kind of crap without some kind of payoff.
Addison and Izzie are hot. Do they count?

I don't know who they are, they should cram them into the commercials. All I ever see from the commercials is that plain girl pining over the dude with the hair.

Katherine Heigl (Izzie)
Kate Walsh (Addison)
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part of that show being basically an upgraded soap in a hospital is that the babes aren't even very hot. Sandra Oh is one of the ugliest asian women I've seen, and that white chick is the definition of bland looking. I haven't watched the show so maybe there's some other babes, but those two stuck me as the main characters and they stink. If you want me to watch trash television when nothing else is on, you damn well better pack it full of some high quality hotties, because god knows I'm not going to sit through that kind of crap without some kind of payoff.

Fixed
 

jst0ney

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Of course. Every other tv show is completely realistic and representative of society

OK, realism isn't important - authenticity is. People often confuse the two. ER is obviously not REAL, but it feels real. This show feels like pretty actors playing dress up, and rings false time and again.

Scrubs is a show I enjoy but it never strives for authenticity, the humor is in how fake everything is. This show, as a drama, should use the surroundings as more than a buffer / plot device - "let's have characters talk a lot about their love life.. While doing medical... Stuff..." That's what it feels like to me.. UGH.

If you don't think that surgeons have "regular" conversations when performing surgery, then you have a much more glamorous look on the profession that what exists. They are in surgery every day and parts of even the most difficult surgery's become routine.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: her209
I actually can't stand 24 or Prison Break or Lost. It's like the writers put "twists" into the plot for the sake of doing it. Real lame in my opinion.
What shows do you watch? Or do you mainly stick to the anime tentacle pr0n?
Actually, I don't watch that much TV, but to answer your question, mainly South Park. And, yes, it can get preachy at times. I can't even watch Simpsons anymore because its all just random jokes and scenes strung together.
 
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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I'll cut you a little slack there, but serial shows (like Heroes and Buffy) should be able to be judged on their individual moments, if not entirely understood. Look at an episode of heroes and, while you may be confused, you'll know that the writer has an arc in mind and that you just may not get it because you didn't see other episodes. This show, I got everything that was going on but.. It was all so cliched. Everyone was sleeping with someone they really shouldn't.

I'm brown so a lot of my family members are in the medical field - they spend their nights saving lives and not getting enough sleep, not fvcking all the time and talking about it while working on someone's heart. Don't get me wrong - I *KNOW* tv shows shouldn't be expected to be REALISTIC, but why even set the show in a hospital if you're going to be so indifferent about the setting? There's real drama that goes on in a hospital every moment of every day, why focus on such middling bullsh1t as two characters screwing in a closet?

Short answer is, if they centered on ONLY the medicine, there would be no story arc, and most people wouldn't want to watch the show. If you wanted that type of stuff, you'd be watching Discovery and not some prime time show. It might as well be a documentary at some point. Show me one current medical show that doesn't have story lines that aren't similar in some fashion (hell, even House has elements of it).

Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

House.. Now, house is a show about medicine that's not realistic but it's very, very authentic. It feels right, it's moving on it's own (without b.s. "who's fvkcing who?" drama) and is loved by both men and women. It's not a dude show or a chick show. It's just ... Good..
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
The worst part of that show being basically an upgraded soap in a hospital is that the babes aren't even very hot. Sandra Oh is one of those most homely asian women I've seen, and that white chick is the definition of bland looking. I haven't watched the show so maybe there's some other babes, but those two stuck me as the main characters and they stink. If you want me to watch trash television when nothing else is on, you damn well better pack it full of some high quality hotties, because god knows I'm not going to sit through that kind of crap without some kind of payoff.

If all the chicks were hot you'd be here complaining that it's not reality to have smoking chicks as interns in a hospital.
 
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Originally posted by: jst0ney
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Of course. Every other tv show is completely realistic and representative of society

OK, realism isn't important - authenticity is. People often confuse the two. ER is obviously not REAL, but it feels real. This show feels like pretty actors playing dress up, and rings false time and again.

Scrubs is a show I enjoy but it never strives for authenticity, the humor is in how fake everything is. This show, as a drama, should use the surroundings as more than a buffer / plot device - "let's have characters talk a lot about their love life.. While doing medical... Stuff..." That's what it feels like to me.. UGH.

If you don't think that surgeons have "regular" conversations when performing surgery, then you have a much more glamorous look on the profession that what exists. They are in surgery every day and parts of even the most difficult surgery's become routine.

I've asked surgeons I know if they really do just shoot the breeze while doing surgery, as it often potrayed in tvs - that notion that it's so routine that it's just like taking a morning stroll. Almost all agree that there's some light banter but the focus is always on the patient - that there's no such thing as a "routine" operation. Heated discussions about one's loved life just doesn't happen.. It's unprofessional and a totally b.s. convention created by TV.
 

fallenangel99

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Another show for the females to be glued onto.. to imagine that their life would be like the life in Grey's - hot people, making good $$$< sleeping around.. etc

First, it was Friends, then Sex and the City, Desp. Housewives, and now Grey's..

 

her209

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: her209
I actually can't stand 24 or Prison Break or Lost. It's like the writers put "twists" into the plot for the sake of doing it. Real lame in my opinion.
With you here...I tried starting to watch Lost last season...watched a couple/three episodes and just couldn't get into it.

Maybe I would have had I started watching from the inception, but it's not worth my time to go back and try to figure out wtf's going on now.

The only show I've found it worth doing for was Sopranos.
For Lost, I tried watching the first couple episodes when it started and the whole premise was stupid so I stopped watching it after that. Same with Prison Break. I started watching 24 starting with the first episode of the 4th season. The first few episodes were good but it really went downhill for me when they started "revealing" all the conspirators in the President's circle, e.g. the head Secret Service guy, etc.
 
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Originally posted by: her209
I actually can't stand 24 or Prison Break or Lost. It's like the writers put "twists" into the plot for the sake of doing it. Real lame in my opinion.

Um.. What does any of those shows have to do with Grey's Anatomy? This thread isn't a general criticism of TV. I like tv, a lot. Heroes, the office, andy baker, pI, riches, house, studio 60 (rest in peace).. there's a lot of great stuff out there on the tube, just not grey's anatomy.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?
 
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

I watched 20 minutes of this one episode and have seen maybe 2 other episodes with her. This 3rd time was enough for me to see that it's all the same, every episode.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: her209
I actually can't stand 24 or Prison Break or Lost. It's like the writers put "twists" into the plot for the sake of doing it. Real lame in my opinion.
Um.. What does any of those shows have to do with Grey's Anatomy? This thread isn't a general criticism of TV. I like tv, a lot. Heroes, the office, andy baker, pI, riches, house, studio 60 (rest in peace).. there's a lot of great stuff out there on the tube, just not grey's anatomy.
Well, it is now.
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

Basically, heh.

The show isn't just about medicine (and they have some pretty interesting medical stuff going on in most episodes), it's about life away from medicine. Trust me, the medicine in the show is compelling.

If you find that House doesn't follow the same type of line, you don't watch it often. There's a TON of drama mixed in (how about 10 or so episodes dedicated to House's pain killer addiction, for example? Or how he dances around his infatuation for Cutty (or Cameron's infatuation for him)).

I think you have issues with shows that have a woman as the main character.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

I watched 20 minutes of this one episode and have seen maybe 2 other episodes with her. This 3rd time was enough for me to see that it's all the same, every episode.

Watching 2.5 out of 54 episodes is not a real sample so basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.

/thread
 

BoomerD

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I actually like GA. Is it medically accurate? Of course not. IMO, none of the sit-coms or sit-dramas are truely accurat, but then again, it's NOT supposed to be...it's fvcking entertainment...not education.
I'm one of the 24, prison break and lost haters...Keifer just doesn't fit the part, prison break is just a stupid concept, and lost...I've only watched a few minutes of it in the first season, and it seemed like they must have "jumped the shark" in the first episode...Just terrible TV IMO...
 
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

I watched 20 minutes of this one episode and have seen maybe 2 other episodes with her. This 3rd time was enough for me to see that it's all the same, every episode.

Watching 2.5 out of 54 episodes is not a real sample so basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.

/thread

Don't get your panties in a twist, if the 2.5 episodes were compelling i'd watch 54. Do you need to watch 20 episodes of Sister, Sister to know that it sucks? 3 seasons of full house before forming an opinion? Nah, i'm pretty sure that the show sucks after 2.5 episodes.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

I watched 20 minutes of this one episode and have seen maybe 2 other episodes with her. This 3rd time was enough for me to see that it's all the same, every episode.

Watching 2.5 out of 54 episodes is not a real sample so basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.

/thread

Don't get your panties in a twist, if the 2.5 episodes were compelling i'd watch 54. Do you need to watch 20 episodes of Sister, Sister to know that it sucks? 3 seasons of full house before forming an opinion? Nah, i'm pretty sure that the show sucks after 2.5 episodes.

I'm not talking about your opinion on whether it sucks or not. You can form that based on the promos for all I care. You really have no frame of reference to be commenting on story arcs and realism on the show, though.
 
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Why is it that it must be all or nothing? I didn't say it should ONLY BE ABOUT THE REALISTIC PART OF A LIFE IN MEDICINE. That would be a different show. But balance can be had - some of that gushy love crap and some, you know, stuff that's about the compelling nature of a life spent saving lives.. But they don't do that.

How can you say any of that by only watching 30 seconds of one episode?

I watched 20 minutes of this one episode and have seen maybe 2 other episodes with her. This 3rd time was enough for me to see that it's all the same, every episode.

Watching 2.5 out of 54 episodes is not a real sample so basically, you have no idea what you're talking about.

/thread

Don't get your panties in a twist, if the 2.5 episodes were compelling i'd watch 54. Do you need to watch 20 episodes of Sister, Sister to know that it sucks? 3 seasons of full house before forming an opinion? Nah, i'm pretty sure that the show sucks after 2.5 episodes.

I'm not talking about your opinion on whether it sucks or not. You can form that based on the promos for all I care. You really have no frame of reference to be commenting on story arcs and realism on the show, though.

If 3 random episodes all revolved around which character is fvcking who, I can be pretty certain that the story arc revolves around which character is fvkcing who...
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pulse8
I'm not talking about your opinion on whether it sucks or not. You can form that based on the promos for all I care. You really have no frame of reference to be commenting on story arcs and realism on the show, though.

If 3 random episodes all revolved around which character is fvcking who, I can be pretty certain that the story arc revolves around which character is fvkcing who...

Don't get your panties in a twist. My point is that based on 3 random episodes you have no idea what you're talking about and the more you assert that you do the more you just prove my point.
 

preCRT

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What's wrong with Melrose Place set in a hospital? The show is a night time soap aimed at women. They aren't after a male audience, if they were, the guys would be less attractive.

 
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