It really depends on the build. You'll usually have 1 or 2 primary attacks with several situational abilities. At 14, you don't have the points, but you should see the abilities you'll be interested in within the trees.
Does it change much later on? I quite enjoyed it so can keep playing but I did some googling and saw some people say the higher level combat wasn't much different. I love the skill tree though, would love to unlock more of it.
It's really only complex at first. I'd say it's the biggest grind-fest out of all three listed.
Hmm thanks, I'll see if I can find some higher level videos on youtube. It is tempting because that tree is so cool.
My current AAR build is using a rune that has a great cone shaped spell to help clear groups, as my primary ability is great single target damage. I have another rune which let's me have a shadow strike like attack (without the invisible) to move fast towards targets. I then have a mirror ability as my oh crap! button, flash freeze for CC and a buff for added damage and energy regen. This is at level 25. As I level up, I'll gain more abilities. Oh, and I forget I also have nulification to remove buffs from enemies.
You two are talking about two different games. ditdit is asking about Path of Exile and bystander is referencing Grim Dawn.
PoE end-game is pure grind for maps, then once you go into the map, it's a challenging grind to get to the end of the map and hope you find another map. The game was fun when it was in beta and still pretty fun shortly after release, but the grind made me lose interest.
Has anyone come across a list of Devotion skills? A list would be easier to browse than the constellations.
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Constellation
Edit: The wiki page is currently up to date as of 1.0.0.2 for constellations (they all took a pretty big hit on the last update).
Not every class combo works as well as others. I'd personally pick a style you like and try and match that style with the best classes for it. It's a single player game, it's not a big deal if your character is relatively weak. In some ways it's good, so that as you try new classes combos, they get stronger as you go. This is not the type of game where you settle on a single character to play forever. Making new characters is most the fun, so experiment.
Soldier pairs well with pretty much anything. Just know that if you go for shield, make sure to invest in it. It's not good unless you go all in. Although it might be easier to invest in it once you level up a bit.
Try this site: http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17
Grim Dawn's grind doesn't feel like an actual grind most of the time because you have the obvious gear grind (which isn't necessary) and then there's the reputation grind. Grinding out rep isn't even that bad except for Cronely's Gang but even then, it's not a big deal. For the majority of the game, if you just play and explore, you won't have to do any sort of grinding unless you really want a specific legendary or you want the mandates/warrants for factions (which are tradeable between characters unlike the writs).
Basically, gear is a lot easier to find in Grim Dawn than PoE because there isn't a huge economy and need for trading between other players. The option is there if you want it, but the game isn't centered around it like PoE. Both are great games, I just prefer Grim Dawn at the moment because you play the game to have fun and perfect your build. Once you get to end-game, you can run Bastion of Chaos orfor gear to use on other characters, or you can just make a new build. PoE end-game is just grinding out maps to get more maps in hopes of finding something rare to trade.Loghorrean
So, single player - Grim Dawn. Multiplayer - PoE.
My only problem with this is that you have to redo reputation for the factions over with each character. Granted I have only leveled into the fifties.
Once you do this one time, you can buy writs to give to your other characters to double the amount of faction you gain. Without farming at all, simply going through the quests and clearing the zones as you go, I always get maximum faction with everyone but Legion by the end of doing Cronely's area in Elite. I'll max Legion by the end of Elite with a couple bounties.
Faction is not an issue with writs.
The same applies to Warrants as well. They are a rare drop from Nemesis but they can be traded and grant you +100% infamy gain from that particular enemy faction. It makes reaching Revered/Nemesis a hell of a lot faster on new characters, so it pays to stick it out with at least one to reach Revered/Nemesis.
Granted, reaching Revered is so much easier than reaching Nemesis, but since they dropped it down from where it used to be (45,000 was the old number), it's still not too difficult to reach Nemesis with most factions. Kymon/Vigil and Cronely's Gang are the only ones that take a bit longer to reach Nemesis due to the small amount of enemies of that faction available in the game. Still, by the time you're in the middle of Elite, you should be Revered or close to Revered status with most of the main factions and around the start of Ultimate, you should have a few Nemesis enemies wandering around.
Thanks for the responses.
In general how have you levelled? Do you just complete the story and go straight to the next difficulty level? Have you farmed on Veteran before going to Elite, and on Elite before going to Ultimate?
I'm not sure what I want to do now. I just want to get into Ultimate with some character and start farming legendaries. There is nowhere near enough stash space in this game. It actually is really frustrating. There was a great utility program for Titan Quest, I forget the name, but it basically allowed you to empty your stash into some sort game files, and restore them with this program. It effectively gave you unlimited storage. I hope a similar utility comes out soon for Grim Dawn.
That's my main beef with this game for now. It's a gear/loot based game, and too much of my time is spent on trying to figure out which items are NOT something I'll wish I had held onto down the line, and trying to balance that with organizing stash/inventory space. Not fun.
I think most people say that Demolitionist, Arcanist, and particularly Combos with Nightblade seem to be the most powerful late game (that clear fastest).
It all depends on what skills you're using. There are two major Demolitionist skills that make Ultimate a joke. Arcanist has spawned some of the best combinations as it's by far the most versatile support class as well as majorly overpowered caster class, and Nightblade has at least four different combinations that make you feel like you're just playing a "Lets take a leisurely stroll through the countryside" sim.