Grim Dawn - Titan Quest sequel - kickstarter

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StrangerGuy

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Not interested. Anybody than Blizzard has a horrible track record with Diablo clones releasing on time or in quality, or both. For example, Torchlight II might have scratched the Diablo itch if it was out in Q1 2012, but now that it is releasing after D3 hardly is even going to care.
 
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CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Well, looks like the guy who was going to put in $100K (I posted earlier) once pledges got to $180K is now going to only put it in if the pledges meet the original goal of $280K. hmmmm....not sure if serious anymore.
 

motsm

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Well, looks like the guy who was going to put in $100K (I posted earlier) once pledges got to $180K is now going to only put it in if the pledges meet the original goal of $280K. hmmmm....not sure if serious anymore.
In his defense, I believe he said if it reached $180K within 4 days, it's been 5 and has yet to reach that goal. Not that I believe him necessarily, just going to wait and see.
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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Personally, I loved Titans Quest. Actually played it more than D2. In for $35 on this one.
 

Cutterhead

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Jul 13, 2005
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Glad to see we have a nice little AT crowd funding this game; I was in for $50 as well. Looking forward to seeing Grim Dawn finally come to life.

A bit off-topic, but Jane Jensen (creator of Gabriel Knight games) has a project on KS that also just reached its funding goal over the weekend. Not only that, but they also announced they will be making not one but 2 games, and backers of that project at the $50+ level will receive both. If you are a fan of old-school adventure games with a darker theme and great writing, you should check that project out too (11 days left).
 

crownjules

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Jul 7, 2005
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I bumped up my funding to $28 to get the Drunken Master Edition (Game + Swashbuckler cloak + Enchanted Burnwitch Brew ingame items).

They really did a great job with their funding, adding the additional goals on top of the funding they original requested. As extras, the funding has "unlocked":

- Chars will be able to dual wield pistols
- 50 unique items with art
- An additional end-game boss wandering somewhere in the game
- A new environment set that will be voted on
- 2 additional monster types
- 3 large, high level dungeons with their own themes and hero monsters that will appear randomly in the world

Funding ends in 31 hours and we're a little over $15K away from a savage 2-handed weapon being added.
 
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thespyder

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I bumped up my funding to $28 to get the Drunken Master Edition (Game + Swashbuckler cloak + Enchanted Burnwitch Brew ingame items).

They really did a great job with their funding, adding the additional goals on top of the funding they original requested. As extras, the funding has "unlocked":

- Chars will be able to dual wield pistols
- 50 unique items with art
- An additional end-game boss wandering somewhere in the game
- A new environment set that will be voted on
- 2 additional monster types
- 3 large, high level dungeons with their own themes and hero monsters that will appear randomly in the world

Funding ends in 31 hours and we're a little over $15K away from a savage 2-handed weapon being added.

Wait, what??? Pistols? I thought it was supposed to be a fantasy ARPG? Not Steampunk. I guess I need to read more about the game, because I hate pistols in my fantasy realms. There is no point to them (IMHO) if you have swords, armor and magic.
 

Martimus

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Apr 24, 2007
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Wait, what??? Pistols? I thought it was supposed to be a fantasy ARPG? Not Steampunk. I guess I need to read more about the game, because I hate pistols in my fantasy realms. There is no point to them (IMHO) if you have swords, armor and magic.

Nope. The setting is far closer to Hellgate London than Diablo. In fact Hellgate London would be a pretty good comparison to the setting for Grim Dawn. Hopefully the boring gameplay of HG:L doesn't also compare to Grim Dawn.
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Wait, what??? Pistols? I thought it was supposed to be a fantasy ARPG? Not Steampunk. I guess I need to read more about the game, because I hate pistols in my fantasy realms. There is no point to them (IMHO) if you have swords, armor and magic.

Torchlight had pistols and it wasn't Steampunk.

As long as it's done correctly, it's not a problem with me. Just gives me variation in my range attack.
 

StinkyPinky

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2002
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Why are pistols a problem? Just think of it as about the equivalent of the 17th century
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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If it was like an arbeques, slow and weak, that would be fine.

How the fuck do you spell that? Arquebes?
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Wait, what??? Pistols? I thought it was supposed to be a fantasy ARPG? Not Steampunk. I guess I need to read more about the game, because I hate pistols in my fantasy realms. There is no point to them (IMHO) if you have swords, armor and magic.

wait--why can't fantasy have pistols?

it's fantasy, right....should fantasy have such limits/set rules?

don't forget that the Chinese were playing around with firearms about 300-500 years prior to the supposed timepoint of the King Arthur Myth.
 

Martimus

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Apr 24, 2007
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wait--why can't fantasy have pistols?

it's fantasy, right....should fantasy have such limits/set rules?

don't forget that the Chinese were playing around with firearms about 300-500 years prior to the supposed timepoint of the King Arthur Myth.

That people equate fantasy to Tolkien and nothing else is hilarious to me. Sometimes I wonder how so many people can miss the forest through the trees.
 

ibex333

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Mar 26, 2005
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Not interested. Anybody than Blizzard has a horrible track record with Diablo clones releasing on time or in quality, or both. For example, Torchlight II might have scratched the Diablo itch if it was out in Q1 2012, but now that it is releasing after D3 hardly is even going to care.

Are you kidding? Diablo III is trash. total failure. Have you even played it?
 

EDUSAN

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Apr 4, 2012
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Titan Quest was way better than Torchlight...

TBH titan quest has better graphics than D3
 

thespyder

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Aug 31, 2006
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wait--why can't fantasy have pistols?

it's fantasy, right....should fantasy have such limits/set rules?

don't forget that the Chinese were playing around with firearms about 300-500 years prior to the supposed timepoint of the King Arthur Myth.

I have no problem with it being Fantasy. And I have no particular 'Hook' on it having to be a Tolkeinesque setting. I have a problem with the logic of the whole thing.

The reason that technology advances at all is as a result of a specific need. You need something and don't have it, invent it. Something doesn't work properly, or is needed but is difficult to create and you develop technology to make it easier or better. Necessity being the mother of invention and all of that.

But fire arms and the like are not filling a need in a world with magic. Why would anyone mess around with something as messy and unreliable, not to mention dangerous as black powder, if you can chant a few words and shoot a missile unerringly into your target. why create a drum of powder that might explode and blow you to kingdom come, if you can cast a spell that is 100% safe for you, but really dangerous to your enemies.

Read A Clash of Kings in the section where Tyrion Lanister talks about the 'Liquid fire' and it's use in the battle to take Kings Landing. combat is messy. Why add to that chaos something that is just as likely to blow up in your face as strike your enemies?

Simply put, there is no coherence or reason why anyone would mess around with firearms where there are much simpler, safer and more efficient methods of getting it done available (ala magic).

and so until AK47s are invented, the magic practitioner is always going to be significantly more proficient in doing just about anything than someone using a firearm. And almost all of the 'Fantasy' worlds that people make games of today are absolutely Rife with magic use. Every peasant and their dog can crap out magic. So there is absolutely no need to create something that is just as dangerous to the user as it is to the intended target.

And remember, the firearms that the Chinese were using were VERY crude and nasty. A single shot and then throw it away, and that is assuming it didn't explode and cripple the wielder.
 
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