My God, Cleve actually did it. I don't think I've thought about Grimoire in 7 or 8 years. Crazy.
If a game has ever been in development for that long, they should sell it for $5 and call it an indie game. From what I saw on the Steam pages, there's no way in hell I would even spend $10 for that game.
Cleve claims it will never be discounted after the initial release 10% discount. Marketing or fact only time will tell.
My God, Cleve actually did it. I don't think I've thought about Grimoire in 7 or 8 years. Crazy.
Might be premature, as @you2 stated, it's getting panned pretty badly on the reviews for technical issues, as well as questionable design decisions (like 8-character parties causing out-of-balance enemies which happily one-shot your characters due to scaling issues).Freaking A. I gave up on that title at least 10 years ago and even then it was like 10 years overdue. Even if it sucks seeds gotta give Cleve some props, I would have bet everything I own on it never being released.
Might be premature, as @you2 stated, it's getting panned pretty badly on the reviews for technical issues, as well as questionable design decisions (like 8-character parties causing out-of-balance enemies which happily one-shot your characters due to scaling issues).
Give it a week or three to see if some of the reviews are a little more coherent/concise I guess.
Oh, and I think $40 is pants-on-head crazy. Don't get me wrong, I'll pay for a quality game (graphics or no.. I'd pay $50 for DF), but I think that's a high bar to cross compared to setting it at $20 with a yearly 50% off.
Might be premature, as @you2 stated, it's getting panned pretty badly on the reviews for technical issues, as well as questionable design decisions (like 8-character parties causing out-of-balance enemies which happily one-shot your characters due to scaling issues).
Give it a week or three to see if some of the reviews are a little more coherent/concise I guess.
Oh, and I think $40 is pants-on-head crazy. Don't get me wrong, I'll pay for a quality game (graphics or no.. I'd pay $50 for DF), but I think that's a high bar to cross compared to setting it at $20 with a yearly 50% off.
As for $40, name me 1 game that has 600 hours for that price, hell most $60 games today have less then 16 hours of gameplay
Nah I hear you, and that was part of my comment about reviews settling down a bit. I agree that a review on a project of this scale with less than an hour played is a little absurd, but if game-breaking (or at least critical) bugs that existed within demoland also exist within the game proper, it doesn't give many warm-fuzzies about the overall status of the game. In addition, if the aforementioned balance issues are still a thing (unknown how serious/legitimate that was) it could be something that persists in the game, detracting from the fun/difficulty ratio. I really have no idea though as I've not even followed the game at all.are there any actual reviews of the released game? All i see are of the super demo, its only been out a day or two, hardly enough time to review a 600 hour RPG game (opinion, if it really is 600 hours as suggested). I guess if you cant play it (bugs) i can see some negative. I see a couple rpg sites with 'first peek" things seem to think its rough, but fun and will have more in depth reviews later. Steam, pretty easy to look there, lots of negative with 30 minutes played I dont think i saw a negative review with more then 120 minutes (as in didn't play it), but if you look at positive, most are 5-7 hours or more. still a pretty short time on a RPG. Any complaints about it being old school graphics or gameplay, is a bit silly, its been stated it was a homage to old games and would be like them. I dont think ( I cant find any) it was ever stated it would be enhanced or updated to today's ideals. Expecting it be something else (screenshots, there is a demo, a couple youtube videos of the demo) is just a lack on part of person who bought it without any research.. geez a quick look at the store page shows its as OLDSCHOOL as it gets.
I hear most the hate is for the dev not the game as he (I read a few) has other interests that seem a bit whack. And since I have not played the release, I may very well come here and rant, but not till i play it. As for $40, name me 1 game that has 600 hours for that price, hell most $60 games today have less then 16 hours of gameplay. Graphics do not make games, they can enhance them, but a good game is a good game, and turn based RPG crawlers are more about the leveling, character building then graphics. I am all for better graphics, but wont whine about them if the game is good (again IF!).
a quick look at steam stats shows its doing pretty good (sales), and reviews are on the positive side right now. and full disclosure I am a backer, Not long term ( some are like 10 + year i hear) but a couple.. and am still waiting for my key so I do have a bitch with that.. 3 days and still no key for a backer.
Terraria.
Depends on what your goals are with the game. A small team (one or two people) with an exceptionally ambitious goal/set of goals, or the willingness to expand upon the goals, can go on a very very long time. Dwarf Fortress is another game like that, in active development since 2004, released in an early form in 2006, and evolving ever since.How in Hell does a game take 20 years to develop?
How in Hell does a game take 20 years to develop?
Yes I was 18 when I got first laid, how did you know?Taken you longer to get laid, and that should be easier.
The no discount thing is interesting. I have mixed feelings about it. I'm in favor of discounts as making sense for market segmentation, but do hate to see customers who would spend $40 on a game trained to wait until it's $10, making 'suckers' of early buyers.
I'd probably rather see a bit less discounting in exchange for a bit lower normal prices, but keep most of the discounting on a slower time frame. 'No discounts the first 6 months/year' could be interesting and increase full price purchases on release.