Cooking for your pets, I find that to be lolridiculous. They're dogs. They are meant to eat the shit their master's don't want not catered to like small infants.
Cooking for your pets, I find that to be lolridiculous. They're dogs. They are meant to eat the shit their master's don't want not catered to like small infants.
I hope you are talking single incident and not over lifetime.
I do agree even with people there comes a realistic threshold you are limited by...
My wife can't have kids, so I am lucky that I don't have both pets and kids to budget.
My one kitty has had to have a little over $2000 in surgery during a 4 year stint at $500-600 per year in his youth. His two littermates didn't suffer the same problem he did. He's been event free for 4 years now that his diet has corrected it.
My cattle dog has a personality everyone loves...I really got lucky with this dog in my life. He was found tied up in a garbage bag at about 3 months old outside a known dog fighting area. The janitor rushed him to the shelter half dead.
Whoever owned him originally thought he was probably a pit bull as a pup and then realized he was more other things once growing. I saw him on petfinder.com and rushed to see him. They said he was adopted already, but let me play with in a couple mins. I was really sad.
He was adopted by people that lived in an apartment. 2 weeks later he ended up back, once their landlord found out they fortunately returned the dog rather than let him go into the 'wild'.
Fortunately that was the day I saw him again on petfinder. I called right away. I spent a few hours with him and told them I was taking him.
He's going to turn 2 in a few months. So far his life has been an adventure. First, few weeks at dog park the old fucks in the small dog side insisted he was a pit bull and kept making trouble for me. I took him to the big dog side and some asshat brought in a pack of aggressive dogs. Mine got bit bad.
That was $600-700. He recovered and was not the worse for wear.
During that recovery though I took him for longer and farther walks. We ended up down a street that had a drug house on it. Their insane dog hopped over his 3' fence and started attacking my puppy and then me. Fortunately a random stranger drove his brand new pickup truck up on the sidewalk and allowed us to pile in soaking wet (it was raining at the time too). We were all stratched up, he was bleeding a bit.
Around 6 months old my house was broken into. He was trapped in his crate. They took one of my fire extinguishers and covered him in it.
somewhere later he got a bump on his mouth. Vet said, probably just cosmetic, but only a removal would guarantee it and a test. Another $300-400.
Then around a year he got bit again, another $600 or so. Golden Retriever went possessive of the water station. Owner promised to pay me...never did.
Fortunately I can afford it, I may have had to stretch it out a couple months to pay it...but I sacrifice.
The return on investment is off the charts, he has been really unique in the dogs I have owned and grew up with. He is almost like a person.
Royal Canin ain't that much better...it's considered a 2 star food
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=royal+canin
again not a bad food, but it's just replacing a grain with a meal product.
My wife and I used to raise Great Pyrs and at best it was a break even proposition. Still, we loved doing it and having such great personalities in our lives. Perhaps because we were running a business, we were more able to see the sense in setting dollar limits. We love all our critters but, we also realize there are so many animals that need care and have much to offer in shelters and animal control.
Not to be confused with puppy mills.Well backyard breeders are another issue.
God damn.. I heard it was the best and it's all i've ever fed to my dogs
Not to be confused with puppy mills.
Different topic, however; most backyard breeders don't have the resources to do all the genetic and other testing that goes into true breeding.
They look at $300-500 a pup every 3-12 months and figure setting up two purebreds with papers cinches the deal.
True breeders do things that warrant their four figure or more offspring, including terminating entire litters.
True but, none of our pups were bred from any sires or dams that had hip dysplasia or other major problems within 4 generations. Dog breeding by responsible people has gone on long before modern science has been available.
We fed ours Science Diet as well. I agree there are better foods out there but, they liked it. :biggrin:
Why don't you just feed actual meat to the dog. I just give a leg of chicken to mine everyday - bone and all. Seems to work.
That's an easy sell from people that buy stock from real breeders. It doesn't mean your dogs or the progeny isn't affected.
It's like those that don't know thinking AKC registered = champion.
People used to have kids with slaves, doesn't mean it's the way to do things today.
I am not saying you were a puppy mill, but you were just a backyard breeder.
It's like the guy that paints cars in his backyard though. Occasionally there is a good one in the mix that has invested in proper delivery.
Actually, our dams and sires were champions both, show and trial. Point is accurate record keeping is still just as important as modern science and to many, more indicative of future performance.
BARF diet is good, but for most dogs it's going to be more than just a leg of chicken on the meat side, and you will need veggies too.
You trolling or serious? I am hoping you just started this so it can be corrected.
raw meat sounds ok for an outside dog, but raw meat juice all over your dog from its messy eating inside?
gahh!
raw chicken, and chicken bones are bad for any dog....
beef on the other hand is just fine.
yea giblet snacks might be an ok treat i guess.
but the idea of raw chicken juices all over the paws and face of your dog.... that is going to transfer all over the house.
raw chicken and chicken bones are fine. Most barf recipes use raw chicken as it's main ingredient.
I supplement my dogs food with raw chicken liver, wings and hearts.
I'm pretty sure all bird bones are bad. You run the risk of them splintering and tearing something internally which isn't a problem with beef/pork.