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Ghiddy

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I've been sick and had to abandon a huge amount of incomplete tasks, which manifested as several open tasks on my computer. There were multiple unsaved blocks of text pasted into instances of Notepad, multiple open browsers, etc.

Years ago, something flipped at Microsoft and they suddenly think it's OK to restart a computer for updates even if there are running tasks. This happened last night.

Rage.

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To the idiots:
-Having updates installed automatically WILL restart your computer without your permission if you leave it on long enough. THIS IS A FACT
-I said repeatedly that I *want* updates to be installed automatically (I have a good reason)
-I said "Install my updates automatically, plz."
-I did not say "Install my updates automatically and restart my computer when you feel like it."

You're the idiot, if you didn't realize this would cause your computer to automatically restart.
 
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See this, boys and girls?


You still have no option of keeping it from automatically restarting at some point once that pops up. You better set your alarm clock if that pops up at bedtime and you have a task that needs to run overnight. A simple of drop down option of "do not restart automatically" while still giving the reminder periodically would solve the problem.

And I can't believe how much hate there is in this thread. It's fucking worse than P&N.
 

busydude

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Feb 5, 2010
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My lab system restarted in the middle of a 2 week long simulation.. and I was pissed. That is all.
 

PowerEngineer

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I suppose I should be grateful to Microsoft for forcing the reboot. Otherwise this rant might have been aimed at your local utility if you'd had a power outage during that week.

The bottom line here is that no one should leave unsaved data on their computer for more than hour (unless you enjoy repeating yourself). I find it hard to believe that you couldn't squeeze out a few more keystrokes and/or mouse clicks to save your data before you became incapacitated.

Live and learn...
 

Ghiddy

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Also, having any kind of unsaved work only stored in the computer's RAM is a terrible idea. I always assume that if I leave my computer it might reboot before I come back (even though I turned off automatic updates), so I save my work. The first thing you do when you create your todo_list.txt or whatever, is save that shit, even if it's blank, and then save it each time you update it, sucka.

Had the power gone out you'd be bitching at the power company. It's ultimately YOUR fault, sucka!
 

Ichinisan

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Oct 9, 2002
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HOW. MANY. TIMES.

LEARN TO FUCKING READ!

There is a way to do what you want.

1 - DISABLE auto rebooting after updates install.

2 - CHANGE THE SETTINGS so that YOU choose when to install/reboot. If you are worried about your multi-tasking stuff then WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE DAY BEFORE CLICKING INSTALL and then LOCKING YOUR SYSTEM.

GEE WAS THAT SO HARD??


Oh and his method doesn't force you to wait while they are installed. Are you insane? And THEN you say that your way of rebooting if you're done with working somehow DOESN'T interfere??? Wow...such a moron.

I know the Group Policy tweak...so please stop repeating it.

You still seem to think I'm talking about my work computer. I'm not. I'm talking about my home computer. My end-of-the-day is when I can't keep my eyes open any more and I have to roll over to the bed. It could be 0100, 0200, 0300...

I seriously don't want to delay the installation part of the update at all. Many important updates DON'T require a reboot and I'd like to get them immediately. I'm always a target for probing hackers because I have a static IP address and I'm always on various IRC channels...but never been exploited (knock on wood).

I'm almost hoping that someone DOES reveal some kind of zero-day exploit by pwning my obsessively-updated system.
 

Lifted

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You're the idiot, if you didn't realize this would cause your computer to automatically restart.

Why? Can you show us where in the Widows Update settings page it states that the computer may automatically restart?

Perhaps you think not being clairvoyant makes people idiots.
 

mb

Lifer
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The OP does have a point, though I think at this point ATOT is trolling the OP so hard, and he's gone batshit insane already, that nobody will agree with him even if they know 100% he is correct. A few people here get it. A computer should not restart without your approval when there is no way for an average user to know that the computer MAY restart.

Nobody here can deny that fact that NOWHERE in the Windows Update settings page does it say "The computer may automatically restart after updates are installed".

Numenorean, who appears to have gone just as batshit insane as the OP, hasn't acknowledged this fact, or the fact that gpedit does not exist in home editions of Windows.

Many updates are not installed until the machine is rebooted.

If you want them automatically installed, it will reboot.

If you don't want them installed automatically, don't select that option.
 

Ichinisan

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Also, having any kind of unsaved work only stored in the computer's RAM is a terrible idea. I always assume that if I leave my computer it might reboot before I come back (even though I turned off automatic updates), so I save my work. The first thing you do when you create your todo_list.txt or whatever, is save that shit, even if it's blank, and then save it each time you update it, sucka.

Had the power gone out you'd be bitching at the power company. It's ultimately YOUR fault, sucka!

Believe me, I know it was a terrible "idea." I simply had no choice. It was futile, but I thought I had enough consciousness at some point to remote-in via my smartphone. I was so disoriented that I couldn't focus once I was in. I kept passing out from exhaustion.
 

Lifted

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Many updates are not installed until the machine is rebooted.

If you want them automatically installed, it will reboot.

If you don't want them installed automatically, don't select that option.

Duh?

Way to ignore my entire point that NOWHERE IN THE WINDOWS UPDATE SETTINGS PAGE DOES IT STATE THE COMPUTER MAY REBOOT.

Should I bold that too? Will it help the point sink in?
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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haha wow the OP is one of those people you meet in life who can just never EVER admit when they are wrong. the ENTIRE FUCKING THREAD is about people telling him how to fix his "problem" and he still will not listen to anyone and would rather continue to sound like a fucking moron.

thank you ATOT for the entertainment this afternoon!
 

mb

Lifer
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Duh?

Way to ignore my entire point that NOWHERE IN THE WINDOWS UPDATE SETTINGS PAGE DOES IT STATE THE COMPUTER MAY REBOOT.

Should I bold that too? Will it help the point sink in?
It may be "duh" to you but apparently it was lost upon the OP. And it doesn't matter if it says it or not unless it's the OPs first time using a Windows PC, which it is not. This is nothing new whatsoever.

OP wants them downloaded automatically, not installed. Installed = rebooted if needed.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Indeed.

I'm saying you can delay all you want, it WILL eventually stop reminding you and just do it. I don't recall if it's at midnight, or 3AM...but I've actually witnessed it.

You have to do the tweak Numenorean mentioned to prevent this.

I have never witnessed the behavior you describe. But, for the sake of argument, let's assume you can delay it in 4 hour blocks but you know that Windows will lose its patience and reboot at midnight (for example). WHY WOULD YOU HAVE IT INSTALL UPDATES AUTOMATICALLY?

I can understand if this was part of a corporate domain where the security of the entire network could hinge on one computer, but it's not OK for a personal computer to do this.

Good Lord, why is this so hard for you to understand? Others have explained -- repeatedly -- that you have options to avoid this issue and yet, you keep screaming and whining.
 

Ghiddy

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There is no lesson to learn here. I was operating at the limits of my ability. I was severely stricken, you see. I ended up being stuck away from home for days. I'd occasionally gain enough consciousnesss to try and remote-in...then pass out or forget what I was doing.

Not a good enough excuse. If you were conscious enough to remote in and do ANY work, you were conscious enough to save your shit. If you save your work as a habit it wouldn't have taken any effort, you'd have done it out of habit.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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Nobody here can deny that fact that NOWHERE in the Windows Update settings page does it say "The computer may automatically restart after updates are installed".

Nowhere in my computer manual does it tell me that a power outage will cause my computer to turn off.

Nowhere does it tell me that unplugging the keyboard will result in keyboard input not being capture.

Nowhere in my monitor manual does it tell me that I need to turn my monitor on to use it.

Nowhere in the RAM packaging did it state I needed to plug the RAM into the motherboard to use it.

Weird though. In every software manual I get, it tells me to save my work or else it can be lost. Hmmmmm... methinks that the OP wouldn't have paid much attention to directions if they were spelled out for him since he didn't FUCKING SAVE HIS WORK!


This sounds like a problem my 7 year old daughter ran across recently. She was doing subtraction and didn't borrow numbers (e.g. 22 - 19) and when asked why she said "Well, the instructions didn't tell me to borrow." I explained, to my second grader, that with subtraction the borrowing is implied; it is a rule and she won't be told to borrow, she just has to when appropriate. Now she understands and borrows properly. My 7 year has more of an ability to apply the notion of an implicit rule than this IT professional?
 

Ghiddy

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I WANT AUTOMATIC UPDATES.

When an update requires a restart, I want it to ASK me...not WARN me. It used to work this way for a reason. Why Microsoft changed this is inexplicable.

Hurry! Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!
 

IndyColtsFan

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You still have no option of keeping it from automatically restarting at some point once that pops up. You better set your alarm clock if that pops up at bedtime and you have a task that needs to run overnight. A simple of drop down option of "do not restart automatically" while still giving the reminder periodically would solve the problem.

And I can't believe how much hate there is in this thread. It's fucking worse than P&N.

Again, there are numerous ways around this. Even if it does automatically reboot (say, at midnight), there are other options. As another poster said, I would NEVER allow updates to be automatically installed on my PC without having to approve them first. That is not a good idea.
 

Ichinisan

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You're the idiot, if you didn't realize this would cause your computer to automatically restart.

Microsoft changed the behavior within the last few years. You probably wouldn't know until it happens to you. That's not OK.
 

Lifted

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Nov 30, 2004
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It may be "duh" to you but apparently it was lost upon the OP. And it doesn't matter if it says it or not unless it's the OPs first time using a Windows PC, which it is not. This is nothing new whatsoever.

OP wants them downloaded automatically, not installed. Installed = rebooted if needed.

It's also lost upon IndyColtsFan and half the peoiple in this thread arguing with the OP that either

A) he should have known
B) it doesn't automatically restart

The two are mutually exclusive.

The ATOT know-it-all's can't even agree on why the OP is an idiot, and in the process, they are making themselves look like idiots.
 
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