GSkill Trident Z vs Ripjaws V

[greenjizz]

I'm ready to go with my new build just had a question about memory and specifically GSkill Trident Z 3000mhz or Ripjaws V 3200mhz. I understand that the Trident Z is top of the line memory but have also read that the Ripjaws is very good as well. My objective will be to overclock to around 4.6ghz. What RAM will be better suited for my objective? Am I better to go with the higher end RAM at a lower speed or for a faster RAM and a bit lower quality?

Note the reason I didn't choose the Trident Z 3200mhz (2x8GB) is because I can't get it where I live I can only get the Trident Z 3200mhz in 4x4GB.

Specs: i7-6700k, Asus Maximus Hero, Ekwb EK-XLC Predator 240, EVGA Supernova 750 Gold and MSI 970 GTX

Thanks so much for the help.

 

[Madpacket]

I can only speak for the GSkill Trident Z 3000mhz series (16GB modules). I currently own 4 sets of them and they've been rock solid on my X99 MSI board. I did have boot issues until I bumped up the voltage one notch on the 2nd bank though but since then 100% stable running at SPD timings. Supposedly Z series work better for Z10 boards as well.

 

[greenjizz]

I can only speak for the GSkill Trident Z 3000mhz series (16GB modules). I currently own 4 sets of them and they've been rock solid on my X99 MSI board. I did have boot issues until I bumped up the voltage one notch on the 2nd bank though but since then 100% stable running at SPD timings. Supposedly Z series work better for Z10 boards as well.

Thanks for the reply. A follow up question, here are the specs of the RAM I have chosen

Ripjaws V 3200MHZ CL16-18-18-38
Trident Z 3000MHZ CL15 15-16-16-35

Does the CAS on the Trident make it better because of the latency even though they are a slower speed? Also will the 3000MHZ be good enough to overclock even if I can't hit 3000MHZ?

 

[Dasa2]

ram speed doesnt affect how far you can oc the cpu unless the memory controller is struggling then higher ram speeds can reduce stable cpu clocks

higher ram speeds just improve cpu efficiency a bit during tasks that overflow the cpu cache

the loser timings would cancel out the higher frequency ram so that they perform very similar
use this as a rough guideline

 

[greenjizz]

ram speed doesnt affect how far you can oc the cpu unless the memory controller is struggling then higher ram speeds can reduce stable cpu clocks

higher ram speeds just improve cpu efficiency a bit during tasks that overflow the cpu cache

the loser timings would cancel out the higher frequency ram so that they perform very similar

I'm a newbie here but looking at the chart is doesn't look like there is any difference from the 3000 CL15 and the 3200 CL16. I guess either will give me relatively the same performance and overclocking ability if I even do that. I'm slightly leaning towards the Trident Z 3000MHZ kit

What ones would you choose if you had a choice?

 

[Deders]

Odd that your RipJaws have got different latencies to mine. I have the 16GB (2x8GB) and the XMP profile runs at 16-16-16-36. Are you sure it's the V's you are getting the specs from?

Worth double checking from different sites as sometimes retailers get the specs wrong. Sometimes if one retailer gets it wrong, other retailers will just copy/paste and it's not long before every retailer has the wrong specs.

 

[greenjizz]

Odd that your RipJaws have got different latencies to mine. I have the 16GB (2x8GB) and the XMP profile runs at 16-16-16-36. Are you sure it's the V's you are getting the specs from?

Worth double checking from different sites as sometimes retailers get the specs wrong. Sometimes if one retailer gets it wrong, other retailers will just copy/paste and it's not long before every retailer has the wrong specs.

Ya it looks like the right ones from what I can see and checking a few other retailers. Here is the site I would buy from http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-v-series-f4-3200c16d-16gvk-04-116133-1307.htm and here is the model number F4-3200C16D-16GVKB and here is the gskills site http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c16d-16gvkb

It looks to me that they make better Ripjaws V 3200 with lower CL and better timings I just can't get it

 

[Madpacket]

If given the choice I usually go with the highest likely RAM speed a CPU memory controller will be able to handle with the lowest memory timings available. In my case (X99/5930K) that's the reason I chose the Trident Z series DDR4-3000 or over higher bandwidth units.

I think the newer Skylake CPU's in Z series boards have an easier time hitting higher bandwidth memory speeds than the older X99 59XX Haswell chips so you have a bit more flexibility in choosing. Also X99 boards have 8 memory slots which if fully populated will put more stress on the memory controller forcing me to downgrade from 3000 to somewhere around 2600 if lucky.

The chart Dasa2 pointed out is a good example latency vs. bandwidth but that being said if you can get away with high bandwidth RAM choose this route first as recent reports are showing this can make a bigger impact (at least for games) than memory running at slower speeds with faster timings. Just don't by high bandwidth sticks if the cost is prohibitive compared to slightly lower bandwidth sticks. There are better areas to spend money.

Ideally before buying any RAM you want to check to make sure your motherboard manufacturer properly supports it.

 

[greenjizz]

This would all be solved if I could grab some Trident Z 3200's at my local store or online in Canada. Another angle, would it be worth it to spend $70CAN more for the Trident Z CL16 3600's instead of the 3000's?

 

[Madpacket]

This would all be solved if I could grab some Trident Z 3200's at my local store or online in Canada. Another angle, would it be worth it to spend $70CAN more for the Trident Z CL16 3600's instead of the 3000's?

I wouldn't bother spending $70.00 more for the 3600's, you're just paying for higher stock SPD timings to make it easier when first setting things up. You can take the 3000's further by relaxing the timings and upping the voltage if necessary, you can use the timings and voltage of these higher bandwidth sticks as a guide.

Most of this higher priced and higher speed RAM is identical, they're just locked with different default SPD timings so companies like G.Skill can create product segmentation and reap higher margins on the 3200+ RAM. I even question the validity of the binning process. Don't get suckered unless being able to set your RAM via "XMP" to 3600 is worth $70.00 to you. And remember, just because the RAM is rated for that speed does not mean your CPU has a good enough memory controller to drive it. I wouldn't bother with anything higher than 3200Mhz.

My 2 cents.

Also, NewEgg.ca sells G.Skill RAM, that's where I bought mine from (I'm in Ontario).

 

[greenjizz]

I wouldn't bother spending $70.00 more for the 3600's, you're just paying for higher stock SPD timings to make it easier when first setting things up. You can take the 3000's further by relaxing the timings and upping the voltage if necessary, you can use the timings and voltage of these higher bandwidth sticks as a guide.

Most of this higher priced and higher speed RAM is the identical, they're just locked with different default SPD timings so companies like G.Skill can create product segmentation and reap higher margins on the 3200+ RAM. I even question the validity of the binning process. Don't get suckered unless being able to set your RAM via "XMP" to 3600 is worth $70.00 to you. And remember, just because the RAM is rated for that speed does not mean your CPU has a good enough memory controller to drive it. I wouldn't bother with anything higher than 3200Mhz.

My 2 cents.

Also, NewEgg.ca sells G.Skill RAM, that's where I bought mine from (I'm in Ontario).

I appreciate the info thanks so much for your feedback I'll stick to the Trident Z 3000's I think.

Cheers Mad

 

[Madpacket]

I appreciate the info thanks so much for your feedback I'll stick to the Trident Z 3000's I think.

Cheers Mad

No worries!

 

[bonehead123]

I've had both, and had good luck with both in the 4x4 & 2x8 sets, and do not notice much real difference in performance between them... but OTOH, I don't game, so I really don't care that much either

I currently have the Trident Z 3400's (2x8), but also used the Gskill 4x4 DDR3 sticks in my previous Z97 rig nottaproblemo.

And FYI, my system is similar to yours except I have a Gigabyte mobo, 950evo pro, and R9 GPU......I got the Tridents simply because they were part of the bundle deal @the 'egg ....