GTA 5 to look way better on PC.

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cmdrdredd

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So downloading the game again fixed my corrupt texture issue. I might get to play tonight now.

Anyone playing with the equivalent of SLI 970s? Does the grass option kill performance even then?
 

PrincessFrosty

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I remember reading Gabe Newell's thoughts on piracy, and he said something to the effect of it being a service problem, and not pricing.

He's mostly right, the Russian distributions were the most heavily pirated and everyone told Gabe/Valve that they'd never make a profit in that market so saturated with piracy, but Valve has done remarkably well there with Steam.

Part of what makes Steam so good are the built in tools, the verify file integrity tool is handy and allows you to scan a dir and reacquire any corrupt/missing files. They've spent a decade fine tuning Steam so competing against that requires a lot of investment, even EA did a terribad job with Origin.
 
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He's mostly right, the Russian distributions were the most heavily pirated and everyone told Gabe/Valve that they'd never make a profit in that market so saturated with piracy, but Valve has done remarkably well there with Steam.

Part of what makes Steam so good are the built in tools, the verify file integrity tool is handy and allows you to scan a dir and reacquire any corrupt/missing files. They've spent a decade fine tuning Steam so competing against that requires a lot of investment, even EA did a terribad job with Origin.

A lot of it has to do with why they're implementing the DRM in the first place. If a company does it from the mindset of "this will stop hackers," then it's going to fail, because you're starting from a point of viewing paying customers as potential thieves. Steam works because it's focused on convenience first; tons of sales, games tied to an account rather than a machine, fast download servers, convenient friend options, etc. It's a great platform for all things gaming related. It just happens to have DRM built-in that acts as content protection... but that never feels like the only reason it exists. It probably is the only reason it exists, but it doesn't feel like it. Just look at this thread; people who bought the game from Rockstar directly or physical copies are being absolutely hosed; Steam has gone off without a hitch.
 

Subyman

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I decided I didn't want the hastle of downloading 60gb anytime I needed a new installation, so I picked up the box version. What kills me is the dvd's are all dvd9, so they read a little slower then dvd 5s, ugh! Still I can't fault them to much, I'm glad they spent a little extra money on dvd9 instead of giving us 10 dvd5s. Maybe i'll finally buy a blueray burner now and copy everything to one (or 2) disc. ^^

Couldn't you have burned a backup of the steam files and it would have served the same pursue? I think I remember them having a backup method though I haven't used it. I have moved one steam directory to a new computer and reactivated it without an issue though. I was surprised that worked.
 

Oyeve

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Have you tried it in first person mode with keyboard and mouse? Because it basically feels like a COD clone that way. If you have any FPS experience at all, it's a cakewalk. If you're using a controller, yeah, it can be annoying.

Thats what auto-lock aiming is for. :sneaky:
 
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Thats what auto-lock aiming is for. :sneaky:

It auto-locks to the body, so it takes 4-5 shots to bring someone down as opposed to 1 headshot. I mean, it still works, but it's hardly perfect.

Anyone messed around with the FOV slider for first-person? I think I need to expand that a bit, since I recall it feeling slightly claustrophobic.
 

Oyeve

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I am really surprised how well this is running on my old system. Its a S775 quad core Q9550, 8gb of DDR2 ram.

The video card is the only thing I have updated in 7 years and its an R290 w/4gb or vram which GTAV uses all of. So, I think the video card I have and the 1tb SSD I have is making this game extremely playable at 1980x1080p. I had kicked every single thing to the max and it was very playable but tonight I will tone it down a bit to make it really smooth.

So, is it fair to say GTAV for the PC is the most complex game to date graphically?
 

Dankk

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So, is it fair to say GTAV for the PC is the most complex game to date graphically?

Maybe not graphically, but I would argue that it is definitely the most complex video game ever made in regards to designing and programming a living and breathing city. All the various AI routines and systems created to make the world more believable are extremely impressive.
 

skipsneeky2

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I had this issue, somewhere a few pages ago. 16GB ram here and same thing. I enabled pagefile and issues went away, but I also scaled from 3x1080p down to 1x1080p. Not sure which solved it but something did.

Pagefile most likely,been playing for a good bit without any issues.Crashes happen within a minute without one.Peaked at about 7gb usage after a good while here in the story mode.Vram about 3100-3200mb.
 

Childs

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Man, this social club stuff is a pain in the butt. I logged in thinking it would see all my games, but it didnt see anything. I thought this was required before. So I linked my PSN, but I guess its been so long I had to reset the password. Then I realized it didnt see any of the Steam games. Any trick to getting them to show up in the Social Club profile?
 

JeffMD

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Yay.. been playing a few hours now. Love the first person mode on foot but I still prefer driving in 3rd person. Probably because I need to be able to see such a wide view so I can see cars on intersecting streets. I am still not sure if I want to keep driving with the keyboard or go to the game pad. I know managing speeds is so much easier with an analog trigger, but considering I aced the first race mission when it caused me so much pain and trouble on the ps3, I may just drive better with the keyboard.

I'm running a FTW+ 970gtx ontop of a fx6300. I have most things set to very high, I wanted to maximize shadow quality and draw distance. I did need to sacrifice AA to maintain a smooth frame rate though.

Yodude, the benchmark is broken. Don't bother with it for now.

One annoying thing I am finding is that if the map is updated with a new gps or something, the game pauses and brings up the full screen map, usually twice in a row. Very annoying. Other then that though zero issues with the install from DVD.
 
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JeffMD

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The game supports features for 9xx cards and such, but that doesn't mean it won't look great on the 670. It should do quite well as long as you aren't running around with an anemic cpu.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Driver issue? I don't have that problem (though I am running a 780TI).

Also - what are your shadow settings, and what is your detail scaling distance set to?

One thing I wish I could do is set a custom driving camera. I always feel like I am "just peeking" over the top of the car I am driving.
 

Tommy2000GT

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yes.. but it will still play the game if you choose the right settings

The game supports features for 9xx cards and such, but that doesn't mean it won't look great on the 670. It should do quite well as long as you aren't running around with an anemic cpu.

my CPU is also old, an i7 2600k that is overclocked to 4.5ghz, which is still running to this day without any problems.

I haven't built a new system in a long time because there haven't been any games that interest me until now with GTA V.
 

Crow550

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If you downloaded through Steam, Steam offers a built-in Backup tool.

More importantly, at least with Steam, all you need to do is move the data directory and keep it intact, and then use the Verify Files or whatever that option is called.

Even if the install is through Rockstar Warehouse, I suspect you may be able to simply copy the entire installation directory. On a new install, when you launch the title, I'd expect it to check through the game files and fix up anything it notices, mostly the user directory and any other stuff outside of the main install directory (perhaps Registry keys as well?).

Although I expect this ultra-intrusive/restrictive DRM will probably cry foul on a new install, so expect to be reaching out to Rockstar support regardless of what means of backup/install you choose.

I got it through a sale at Greenman which uses RockStars service.
 

flexy

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I am SOOOOO happy I had to RMA my more or less brand-new GTX 970, sent it off today, the day GTA V is coming out.

Now off to gaming...on a AMD EAH4350 Silent....NOT!!!!
 

sxr7171

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I noticed the same issue in the same scene. I also noticed bumping up some of the advanced settings like high rez shadows etc. alleviates some of it. Also I'm no fan of depth of field but it does seem to help in that it just blurs out the distance. Again it's not ideal but if, like me, you can't stand aliasing or creepy crawlies it can help.
 

Dankk

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I am SOOOOO happy I had to RMA my more or less brand-new GTX 970, sent it off today, the day GTA V is coming out.

Now off to gaming...on a AMD EAH4350 Silent....NOT!!!!

Ouch. Sorry to hear that man.

My 290X died shortly after Far Cry 4 came out. I can empathize.
 

escrow4

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I guess I messed up. I didn't get a Steam version because it still had to use the Rockstar Social Club junk, and I didn't want to layer on the DRM. The problem is that Rockstar's download has no checks in place to verify that you've received non-corrupted files from them.

So, that meant last night I got repeated crashes of the 'errgenzlib2' variety, meaning corrupted game data. Please reboot or re-install the game. Well, I'm not going to re-download 60gb considering they can't verify those files either, so I was left with one simple option to verify my files: Torrents.

I remember reading Gabe Newell's thoughts on piracy, and he said something to the effect of it being a service problem, and not pricing. I had to laugh last night because I don't think that's ever rang truer for me personally. There I was, a day one paid customer, and I had to resort to torrents just so I could verify my own game data (doing a force re-check on my Rockstar directory). I don't really like Steam, or DRM in general, but they at least put the checks in place to ensure a paying customer gets something that works.

Sorry, don't mean to go off on a mini rant, but just kind of frustrating. Hopefully this evening I'll be playing the game and not troubleshooting crashes. :/

Files were verified after installing from DVD and patching here. Will be posting screens and settings/FPS soon. Posted a thread in the CPU forum on how CPU heavy this is. If you are running FX its not pretty.
 
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