GTA V: PC Version

[Whitestar127]

Good point JeffMD, but there are some games where it's more noticeable than others.

Take Skyrim for instance. At default ugrids you are walking towards a mountain and BOOOM! a rock formation magically appears out of thin air and hits you in the face.

I agree with futurefields that a better balance should be found, if possible.

 

[HeXen]

Really? I guess we just view things differently. When I play GTA5 and roam about in that world I feel like I'm playing something that is far more immersive than anything in Hitman and Thief. I truly believe Rockstar's engine is head and shoulders above anybody else when it comes to open world environments. When you combine the physics, animation, the amount of stuff happening on screen, nothing even touches it. It makes other games feel like they are missing a dimension.

To me looking at a city vs interacting within it are completely different. I can't find immersion in a building I can't enter for example. It's a shell where you can expect the same reaction from your activity. It's fine for staring I guess but the graphics are not good enough for that, maybe on PC if they can improve the lighting some more.
But since there's not much in the way of stealing and breaking into places, I fail to see how it's more immersive than Thief in that regard. You can't hide bodies nor is the assassination stuff anything near the the depth of Hitman but however you prefer.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

This is by far my pickiest aspect and pet-peeve about modern graphics in general. Far too much importance is placed on maximizing detail up close at the expense of crap LOD. What good is it to have super-high poly models and textures if they only show up within a 20-foot room around your character, and you can visibly see the low-resolution and high-resolution models of everything swapping out when you walk around.

Well as a PC elitist who prefers the finer aspects of gaming I think it's nothing but beneficial it's done this way. For the entire last generation of consoles, and for the forseeable future, we've entered a paradigm of multi-platform games where one game is made to fit all devices, and while that's the case they have to be made to run on the low end devices as a priority.

When you come to scale that to PCs's is very hard to refactor lots of low res, washy texture and low poly characters, where the opposite is true for LODs, it's trivial to allow users access to settings to scale the LOD distances.

It means if you have a powerful PC and you want the best quality you should be backing console games having high quality graphics and tiny LODs, it results in better looking PC games than you can get if you do the opposite.

 

[futurefields]

To me looking at a city vs interacting within it are completely different. I can't find immersion in a building I can't enter for example. It's a shell where you can expect the same reaction from your activity. It's fine for staring I guess but the graphics are not good enough for that, maybe on PC if they can improve the lighting some more.
But since there's not much in the way of stealing and breaking into places, I fail to see how it's more immersive than Thief in that regard. You can't hide bodies nor is the assassination stuff anything near the the depth of Hitman but however you prefer.

Really that's interesting, I didn't realize Thief and Hitman had huge open worlds where you can steal a truck, drive it over a mountain range to a military base where you can steal a fighter jet, take it above the stratosphere, sky dive out from above the clouds, glide over the ocean where you land on a submarine that you later use to explore the bottom of the sea with. Please tell me more about how you can hide bodies in Hitman...

 

[Dankk]

Really that's interesting, I didn't realize Thief and Hitman had huge open worlds where you can steal a truck, drive it over a mountain range to a military base where you can steal a fighter jet, take it above the stratosphere, sky dive out from above the clouds, glide over the ocean where you land on a submarine that you later use to explore the bottom of the sea with. Please tell me more about how you can hide bodies in Hitman...

Sometimes I don't want to do all of that though. Sometimes I just want to walk inside of a building, and when I can't, that feeling of immersion is ruined.

I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I'm inclined to agree with him. I find myself more engaged in smaller, more nuanced/interactive environments than larger, static ones.

It's funny that he mentions Hitman because I've actually been playing Hitman: Absolution lately and it is the perfect example of this. In Hitman's small levels, the amount of detail and dynamicism is amazing. The environment in a Hitman game may be smaller than a single city block in GTA, sure; but that small area is packed with far more realism. The dense crowds of people, the assortment of interactive objects, all of the doors and rooms you can open, people you can talk to, etc, etc, lends for a much more interesting and organic experience.

Don't get me wrong, I like huge open world games that let me steal jets, fly into the stratosphere and skydive into the ocean, but Just Cause 2 let me do that long before GTA5 did.

 

[futurefields]

Just Cause 2 is garbage that engine doesnt have the WEIGHT of GTA. Theres a vast gulf in the level of quality of those games.

 

[Majcric]

But it's rather shallow. It feels like a shell with repeated textures, objects and robots that all react and do the same things over and over. It's all good for a bit but you cause some mayhem a few times and it gets stale pretty quick since it doesn't vary much. Fully destructible environments would help. Buildings that can actually be entered. A little more realism with the police chases, not the hide and wait 60 seconds as they give up and forget you just mass murdered 500 robots...err, pedestrians for the hundredth time. I have to say the radio stations are seriously disappoint in this one.

Of course it's all about the main mission, the rest just serves as a backdrop to that, to fill in-between an urban story you drive from A to B in an arcade fashion, I get all that but there is definitely a void...a huge one in doing so.

I would like to see more than a main story. Perhaps actual depth found in specific games....Toss in some NFS Underground, Hitman, Thief. Heck toss in a dating sim. Just some side missions without needing much story yet can fulfill the time spent interacting with the game.
They did ok with the golf and Tennis, it had enough depth to fulfill those games but lacked meaning...but why take out the billiards found in San Andreas?

They spent what like $200 million on this. More than Hitman, Thief..etc combined and yet it lacks the depth those have as well. That's kinda what irks me about it. What made me buy it is the same reason I bought the others...it looked rich and alive and I keep falling for it. It's a nice 10 hour or so fun for the main story which is usually pretty good but yet it looks like a world that should get 100 hours of of me, instead I find obstacles that serve to annoy after a period of time.

I'm sure Watchdogs will be the same in that respect, something that looks rich and alive but is really a shell to the main course.

I throughly enjoyed GTA 4 and its expansions even with the flaws. The immersion was actually there on the PC. I'll tell you a game that's extremely shallow and that's Infamous:Second Son. Nothing in the city stands out to me.

 

[JeffMD]

Sometimes I don't want to do all of that though. Sometimes I just want to walk inside of a building, and when I can't, that feeling of immersion is ruined.

Why is that? Do you in real life walk into lots of random buildings? You know in most cases, you can't now. I may lose the some of the curiosity factor when being locked out of buildings I want to explore, but the immersion isn't totally lost as long as the public access of it remains true.

 

[Face2Face]

I dunno, maybe ^_^

I got mine looking the way I want. I can still play online with friends too. Still, really looking forward to GTA V!

YouTube Video

 

[gorcorps]

Just Cause 2 is garbage that engine doesnt have the WEIGHT of GTA. Theres a vast gulf in the level of quality of those games.

That may be true, yet I've put more hours into JC2 than all of the GTA games I've played combined. GTA may be a better technical game, but if I'm going by pure enjoyment I haven't found a GTA game that beats JC2 yet.

 

[futurefields]

Just the opposite for me I beat GTA5 and put about 40 hours into the multiplayer. Conversely on Just Cause 2 I only played the first few missions and spent about 15 minutes in the multiplayer mod because it was just too shallow.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Broke down and bought a handful of games including GTA5 and a 240gb PS3+his gaming account and a 26'' 720p t.v off my cousin cause the wait for a pc port is killing me.:'(

Tell you what though, nothing has been more fun in years for me then rolling in a tank in multiplayer with a army of cops failing to make you stop while you blow them all away.The bullet proof cars in "god" mode that refuse to explode no matter the abuse are epic fun as well.

Rockstar NEEDS to have this game on pc asap.

 

[mazeroth]

I've almost hit the point of being pissed-off that this hasn't ported yet.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I've almost hit the point of being pissed-off that this hasn't ported yet.

Yup I know what you mean, besides BF4 this year GTA5 is the only other game I intend to buy for pc for this whole year. I buy very few games. Last year I could count the amount of games I bought with one hand.

Been playing basically only BF3 for the last 2 years and the occasional World of Tanks, BF4 is broken to hell so here is to hoping GTA5 on pc gets me out of that zone.:thumbsup:

 

[norseamd]

Good point JeffMD, but there are some games where it's more noticeable than others. Take Skyrim for instance. At default ugrids you are walking towards a mountain and BOOOM! a rock formation magically appears out of thin air and hits you in the face. I agree with futurefields that a better balance should be found, if possible.

hate this

worse than aliasing

 

[gorcorps]

I've almost hit the point of being pissed-off that this hasn't ported yet.

:thumbsdown:

Seriously? If you look at the release dates of GTA4 you'll see it took them ~8 months to bring it to PC. That means even if they're working on the exact same schedule (which they aren't as they have new consoles to port to) then that means you wouldn't see a GTA5 on PC until May-June. Given that they're probably focused on the other consoles if anything, expect it to be even further out if it gets ported at all.

I don't know why you were expecting a port even faster than GTA4, on top of having new consoles in the mix now.

 

[justin4pack]

Broke down and bought a handful of games including GTA5 and a 240gb PS3+his gaming account and a 26'' 720p t.v off my cousin cause the wait for a pc port is killing me.:'(

Tell you what though, nothing has been more fun in years for me then rolling in a tank in multiplayer with a army of cops failing to make you stop while you blow them all away.The bullet proof cars in "god" mode that refuse to explode no matter the abuse are epic fun as well.

Rockstar NEEDS to have this game on pc asap.

I did the exact same thing. Bought a ps3 just for gta5 because I got tired of waiting. I play it more then my computer. So worth it.

 

[Markbnj]

A friend told me yesterday this was officially announced for spring 2015. Anyone else see a confirmation on that?

 

[skipsneeky2]

I did the exact same thing. Bought a ps3 just for gta5 because I got tired of waiting. I play it more then my computer. So worth it.

My cousins friend managed to somehow get one of those bulletproof cars to lose both front tires. The hilarious part was watching it barreling down the highway sparking with the wheels missing and hitting anything out of the way with wheels. Took the guy like a entire hour of slamming into everything humanly possible before both wheels came off.

The game is pure madness at times.

 

[mazeroth]

:thumbsdown:

Seriously? If you look at the release dates of GTA4 you'll see it took them ~8 months to bring it to PC. That means even if they're working on the exact same schedule (which they aren't as they have new consoles to port to) then that means you wouldn't see a GTA5 on PC until May-June. Given that they're probably focused on the other consoles if anything, expect it to be even further out if it gets ported at all.

I don't know why you were expecting a port even faster than GTA4, on top of having new consoles in the mix now.

Not quite. It took 7 months and 3 days for them to release it on the PC. Guess what today marks? 7 months and 3 days from the release of GTA 5 on the consoles. And we haven't heard a damn thing, yet. The next time you try to make a point, do some very basic math.

 

[gorcorps]

Not quite. It took 7 months and 3 days for them to release it on the PC. Guess what today marks? 7 months and 3 days from the release of GTA 5 on the consoles. And we haven't heard a damn thing, yet. The next time you try to make a point, do some very basic math.

You're right, I didn't look at the dates and just looked at the months. It doesn't change the fact that I still think we'll see releases on the other consoles before the PC.

 

[Soundmanred]

i have played the GTA V and the graphics are superb. All characters are very well made with beautiful outfits.

I too have play these game. So great costume and visions!

 

[AMD64Blondie]

A friend told me yesterday this was officially announced for spring 2015. Anyone else see a confirmation on that?

Just in time for our flying cars and hoverboards to arrive..

 

[Whitestar127]

I'm reinstalling GTAIV while waiting for GTAV. Thought I should do some modding this time, since I have a couple of 4GB GTX 670s.

Installed iCEnhancer 2.1 and DKT70's textures yesterday. Didn't really look as good as I expected. Looks a bit over-saturated too. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe all those images I have seen on the web are cherry picked.

Or maybe I should try overcast weather.

 

[Cybershoes]

maybe they want to release it when Watch Dogs comes out.