from http://forums.amd.com/game/mes...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=LinearAs the latest 1.02 patch didnt do anything you better complain to Rockstar so they fix it for the next one.
Its NOT going to be fixed by the ATI drivers.
I highly doubt XP 64 will fix that, its a well-known issue with ATI parts and GTA4 but its not just limited to that title, WoW is another where Z-Fighting is a major problem. And LOL @ Spyre's response in that thread followed by the lock. He also said the same thing with regard to the line around the water in COD5.Originally posted by: Canai
My main issue with the game has nothing to do with the number of CPU cores, it's the bloody Z-fighting thing... Everything looks like this. Reinstalling and updating / downgrading drivers do nothing.
It should run 2x faster than before and look and run much better than the console version. You'll still be limited though by view distance due to 512MB VRAM. Overclocking the CPU will result in even more gain.Originally posted by: Jules
Well i just jumped on a Q9400 at micro center for 179.99, Gonna reinstall it and see how it goes.
Originally posted by: chizow
I highly doubt XP 64 will fix that, its a well-known issue with ATI parts and GTA4 but its not just limited to that title, WoW is another where Z-Fighting is a major problem. And LOL @ Spyre's response in that thread followed by the lock. He also said the same thing with regard to the line around the water in COD5.Originally posted by: Canai
My main issue with the game has nothing to do with the number of CPU cores, it's the bloody Z-fighting thing... Everything looks like this. Reinstalling and updating / downgrading drivers do nothing.
I definitely don't have that problem and haven't seen it widely reported for Nvidia parts, its pretty obvious there's a problem with ATI's Z-buffer or Z-cull and how they're storing/rendering alpha textures. Not the first time they've had issues with an over-aggressive Z-cull making things disappear though, plenty of other examples over the last year or so.
Originally posted by: chizow
It should run 2x faster than before and look and run much better than the console version. You'll still be limited though by view distance due to 512MB VRAM. Overclocking the CPU will result in even more gain.Originally posted by: Jules
Well i just jumped on a Q9400 at micro center for 179.99, Gonna reinstall it and see how it goes.
Originally posted by: Jules
Originally posted by: chizow
It should run 2x faster than before and look and run much better than the console version. You'll still be limited though by view distance due to 512MB VRAM. Overclocking the CPU will result in even more gain.Originally posted by: Jules
Well i just jumped on a Q9400 at micro center for 179.99, Gonna reinstall it and see how it goes.
Right now i have it clocked at 3Ghz @ stock volts. I think my memory is downclocked to 760mhz i think. Prime Stable for about 11 hours so far. Think thats enough burn in? Im using Stock HSF btw.
Originally posted by: Billyzeke
Originally posted by: Jules
Originally posted by: chizow
It should run 2x faster than before and look and run much better than the console version. You'll still be limited though by view distance due to 512MB VRAM. Overclocking the CPU will result in even more gain.Originally posted by: Jules
Well i just jumped on a Q9400 at micro center for 179.99, Gonna reinstall it and see how it goes.
Right now i have it clocked at 3Ghz @ stock volts. I think my memory is downclocked to 760mhz i think. Prime Stable for about 11 hours so far. Think thats enough burn in? Im using Stock HSF btw.
Yeah, How are your temps with the stock hsf? Run the gta4 in game benchmark and let us know if there's any difference. Also be sure to turn clip capture off, it sometimes turns itself back on after running the benchmark, and it can cause lag and stuttering.
Originally posted by: chizow
Ya those temps are fine, if you OC'd more or had to increase Vcore you'd want a better HSF. On a mild overclock of 333MHz with a FSB less than 400MHz, you should be fine in terms of stability where you are.
Originally posted by: chizow
Prime95 typically peaks in temps after 5-6 hours but can error as long as 18-20 hours in. Most people think 24 hours is sufficient for stability testing, but many also feel OCCT accomplishes the same stability testing in much less time. With such a mild OC and low FSB speed with presumably no required Vcore increase I'd say you're fine. Just start running games/apps, if you run into problems then troubleshoot.
As for that HSF, its serviceable, I'd say the bare minimum for an after-market cooler. That price is kind of high for it though, I think its regularly on sale for $13-20. But since you have a MicroCenter nearby, why not pick up something there? MC typically runs major sales on excellent LGA 775 coolers, like the Xigmatek S1283 or OCZ Vendetta 2, both of which are HDT (heatpipe direct touch) and perform extremely well, very close to TRUE, V8, and all the other expensive coolers. I've seen the Xigmatek and OCZ coolers on and off for like $15-20 AR, which is a great price especially if you can walk out with one from a B&M.
Originally posted by: chizow
Yeah, those are regular prices, not sale prices. If you can wait a week or so there should be a new flier with a shot at a sale, or you can check the current flier and see if they have any good cooler on sale.
Actually looks like that HDT 1283 is on sale for $30, which is pretty good I think. Its been cheaper AR but that's not bad out the door and also cools better than that AFreezer 7. Its push-pin though I think, there's a bolt through kit for $5-10 at various sites.
Originally posted by: Madaz
just a quick one guys.
i own a laptop,Toshiba satellite P200, C2D T7700 2.4ghz 3gb ddr2 ATI Mobility HD2600 512mb graphics. is there any point in me even considering this game, or should i just stick to what i have and load san andreas up again.
Cheers
Daz
Originally posted by: Billyzeke
Originally posted by: Madaz
just a quick one guys.
i own a laptop,Toshiba satellite P200, C2D T7700 2.4ghz 3gb ddr2 ATI Mobility HD2600 512mb graphics. is there any point in me even considering this game, or should i just stick to what i have and load san andreas up again.
Cheers
Daz
I would stick to San Andreas if I were you. GTA4 would only bring you pain and heartache on that machine.
Originally posted by: Madaz
I was once again looking at the packaging for this game and i was fairly pissed to see that if i was to just follow the recomended settings for this game as they are written on the box i would wrongly believe that my computer could handle this game quite well.
What Gives. Why do manufacturors do this. It makes me pissy and also gives me a glimmer of hope that im sure is false as all of you have had a shitty time with it.