GTAIV PS3 Running at 630p

[erwos]

Originally posted by: I4AT
You know, if nobody came out and said it wasn't actually running in 720p, not a single person would have even noticed. So honestly, why does it matter?

You're misinterpreting the discussion, I think. It's not a commentary on the game - it's a commentary on the consoles.

Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally. Gamers are starting to feel a bit deceived about the promises being made to them, and rightly so.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: I4AT
You know, if nobody came out and said it wasn't actually running in 720p, not a single person would have even noticed. So honestly, why does it matter?

You're misinterpreting the discussion, I think. It's not a commentary on the game - it's a commentary on the consoles.

Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally. Gamers are starting to feel a bit deceived about the promises being made to them, and rightly so.

Seriously?

The people who complain about a game running at 630p (that one's for you, mugs) - are not "gamers". It's a small, vocal group of anal videophiles who spend more time counting lines of resolution in games than actually playing them.

But you got to love them, because honestly, what else would we have to talk about on forums?

 

[warcrow]

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: ducci

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: I4AT
You know, if nobody came out and said it wasn't actually running in 720p, not a single person would have even noticed. So honestly, why does it matter?

You're misinterpreting the discussion, I think. It's not a commentary on the game - it's a commentary on the consoles.

Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally. Gamers are starting to feel a bit deceived about the promises being made to them, and rightly so.

Seriously?

The people who complain about a game running at 630p (that one's for you, mugs) - are not "gamers". It's a small, vocal group of anal videophiles who spend more time counting lines of resolution in games than actually playing them.

But you got to love them, because honestly, what else would we have to talk about on forums?

So you're saying that, if you paid for a 720p monitor, but it only accepted 640p inputs, you'd be fine and dandy about it since it's just about the same?

Some people have more exacting concerns about video quality than you. It's unfair to paint them negatively because they don't have the same opinion as you.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: erwos
So you're saying that, if you paid for a 720p monitor, but it only accepted 640p inputs, you'd be fine and dandy about it since it's just about the same?

Some people have more exacting concerns about video quality than you. It's unfair to paint them negatively because they don't have the same opinion as you.

I don't follow your comparison. I am merely pointing out that those who are truly annoyed by the fact that it runs at a resolution lower than 720p are a minority, and are more interested in picture quality than game quality. The two are not necessarily related.

The best (and best-looking) games on the console run at resolutions lower than 720p.

 

[randay]

does it say 720p on the box?

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: randay
does it say 720p on the box?

Like pretty much every 360 game, I'm sure it does. It probably says 1080p too. But those aren't meant to be taken as the rendering resolutions. Those are there so buyers know what resolution signals the 360 will output to their TVs. The 360 can upscale pretty much every game to 1080p, so that's what's on the box.

If you actually put 630p on the box then consumers would be thinking, "Hey, my TV doesn't accept 630p!". I suppose you could always put both the rendering and signal output resolutions on the box and label them accordingly, but that would likely only result in confusion with your average consumer.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ducci
I don't follow your comparison. I am merely pointing out that those who are truly annoyed by the fact that it runs at a resolution lower than 720p are a minority, and are more interested in picture quality than game quality. The two are not necessarily related.

The best (and best-looking) games on the console run at resolutions lower than 720p.

Based on the second bolded statement (which I agree with), I would say that the first bolded statement is inaccurate - they're more interested in pixel counts than picture quality.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ducci
I don't follow your comparison. I am merely pointing out that those who are truly annoyed by the fact that it runs at a resolution lower than 720p are a minority, and are more interested in picture quality than game quality. The two are not necessarily related.

The best (and best-looking) games on the console run at resolutions lower than 720p.

Based on the second bolded statement (which I agree with), I would say that the first bolded statement is inaccurate - they're more interested in pixel counts than picture quality.

Correct - but "picture quality than game quality" sounds better. Maybe pixel quality.

Those are some nice pixels.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Please, someone correct me and tell me that I'm just a fool for missing the obvious but...

How come we have a PS3 thread bitching about 90 lines of resolution and not a ps3 multiplayer thread like that 360 has?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Please, someone correct me and tell me that I'm just a fool for missing the obvious but...

How come we have a PS3 thread bitching about 90 lines of resolution and not a ps3 multiplayer thread like that 360 has?

Because no one has created one yet... Do you want to do it? Go right on ahead.

 

[Sadaiyappan]

not enough ps3 players? I should be getting it tommorrow and my PSN is same sadaiyappan, you can add me and we can play if you want..

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Please, someone correct me and tell me that I'm just a fool for missing the obvious but...

How come we have a PS3 thread bitching about 90 lines of resolution and not a ps3 multiplayer thread like that 360 has?

Because no one has created one yet... Do you want to do it? Go right on ahead.

I'm going to attempt a subtle take-over of this thread.. My PSN name is Almightystef. I'll be online after 10pm PST

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: erwos
Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally.

Sure they can. A developer would just have to scale back from their original vision. Then it'd run in true 720p just fine. Would you be happy then?

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

I think we all know what he meant irregardless...

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: erwos
Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally.

Sure they can. A developer would just have to scale back from their original vision. Then it'd run in true 720p just fine. Would you be happy then?

I'd be happy if they _didn't_ have to scale back from their original vision and could render at 720p.

There are always graphical trade-offs, certainly, but it seems like they slightly under-spec'd in a couple areas that they shouldn't have.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

Heh, its pretty funny actually. I've always said "couldnt care less" for a long time, but every single other person I've ever known has always says "could care less", so I just got used to it. Must be a local thing.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: erwos
Essentially, we were promised this fancy era of 720p/1080p gaming by console manufacturers, and it's turning out that the blockbusters of this generation can't even render at 720p internally.

Sure they can. A developer would just have to scale back from their original vision. Then it'd run in true 720p just fine. Would you be happy then?

I'd be happy if they _didn't_ have to scale back from their original vision and could render at 720p.

There are always graphical trade-offs, certainly, but it seems like they slightly under-spec'd in a couple areas that they shouldn't have.

Meh, I'm sure the original vision involves something only the PS7 will be able to handle. The specs are the specs, theres no changing that. I'm wondering if anyone has tried it in 480p, and if it runs even smoother.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

Heh, its pretty funny actually. I've always said "couldnt care less" for a long time, but every single other person I've ever known has always says "could care less", so I just got used to it. Must be a local thing.

I've completely replaced it with "I give two shits," which, if taken literally, is incredibly stupid. I guess it could mean I was going to give someone some feces, and just so the message was absolutely clear, give them some more. That might stop them from telling me something I don't care about... Who knows? I could care less.

 

[Tegeril]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

I think we all know what he meant irregardless...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Tegeril

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

I think we all know what he meant irregardless...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

. <-- the joke



<-- your head XD

 

[Tegeril]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Tegeril

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: BD2003
I could care less what resolution it is as long as it runs at a smooth framerate. A solid 30fps works for me, because my TV can interpolate that to a super smooth 120fps, but gets a little wonky when the fps hitch.

Still, I prefer a real 60fps any day. Framerate is by far the most important thing gfx wise IMO. When you have a magic button like the one on my set that lets you switch between 30fps (or 24) and 120 to smooth it out, it's absolutely mind blowing when you realize how much actual detail is lost at 30fps - you cant see anything clearly when its in motion.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8811/caringuh9.png

OWNED!

I think we all know what he meant irregardless...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

. <-- the joke



<-- your head XD

Using the word even jokingly helps perpetuate its usage.

 

[oznerol]

Wow, after 2 unsuccessful attempts to hijack this thread - one being for classic sports games, the other being for GTA IV PS3 multiplayer - warcrow wins by turning it into a grammar thread.

This is especially ironic since he is also the one who coined the word "firsty".

These pretzels are making me firsty.