GTC Info: "Titan-Z" $3,000 USD

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bunnyfubbles

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So basically the Titan Z is marketed for anyone who want to build a small workstation like the new mac pro except it cost more than the mac pro itself

you're trying to be too clever; the $3000 baseline Mac Pro comes with dual Pitcairn based FirePro D300s - a single original Titan would be faster than that...heck it would still be better than the next step up D500s (an extra $400) based on the Tahiti LE. Its only when we spend at least $1000 more for the Tahiti XT based D700s do we have something that could compete with a Titan Black; a Titan Z would crush that option.
 

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you're trying to be too clever; the $3000 baseline Mac Pro comes with dual Pitcairn based FirePro D300s - a single original Titan would be faster than that...heck it would still be better than the next step up D500s (an extra $400) based on the Tahiti LE. Its only when we spend at least $1000 more for the Tahiti XT based D700s do we have something that could compete with a Titan Black; a Titan Z would crush that option.

except if I had 3000 to spend and I went with a Titan Z I can't do anything with it.
 
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rtsurfer

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you're trying to be too clever; the $3000 baseline Mac Pro comes with dual Pitcairn based FirePro D300s - a single original Titan would be faster than that...heck it would still be better than the next step up D500s (an extra $400) based on the Tahiti LE. Its only when we spend at least $1000 more for the Tahiti XT based D700s do we have something that could compete with a Titan Black; a Titan Z would crush that option.

Well dual Hawaii is already in the rumors.

Then it will crush the Titan Z & I bet it wouldn't be $3000.
 

chimaxi83

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you're trying to be too clever; the $3000 baseline Mac Pro comes with dual Pitcairn based FirePro D300s - a single original Titan would be faster than that...heck it would still be better than the next step up D500s (an extra $400) based on the Tahiti LE. Its only when we spend at least $1000 more for the Tahiti XT based D700s do we have something that could compete with a Titan Black; a Titan Z would crush that option.

Except you forgot to factor in the cost of the rest of the system.
 

OCGuy

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Well dual Hawaii is already in the rumors.

Then it will crush the Titan Z & I bet it wouldn't be $3000.

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Anyway I think they priced it intelligently, since they knew only a few gamers with more $$ than brains would pay $1500 for a card, when that is where it would need to be against Titan Black or 780ti.

I just looked around and you can't even find a Titan Black in stock for MSRP, or in stock at all, at the usual US e-tailers. Even EVGA direct is sold out of all 5 SKUs.

What are the odds that it is gamers buying them up, versus people looking for DP? Almost 0.
 

Stuka87

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Anyway I think they priced it intelligently, since they knew only a few gamers with more $$ than brains would pay $1500 for a card, when that is where it would need to be against Titan Black or 780ti.

I just looked around and you can't even find a Titan Black in stock for MSRP, or in stock at all, at the usual US e-tailers. Even EVGA direct is sold out of all 5 SKUs.

What are the odds that it is gamers buying them up, versus people looking for DP? Almost 0.

I would be more willing to bet its because there is very low supply of them. The main reason nVidia releases these high end cards is to say "We are the fastest". They do not make much off them because they do not sell many of them (In comparison to mainstream cards).
 

escrow4

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Seeing as I replace my GPUs annually (if its worth it), I cap my GPU's at $1K, maybe $1500 if its something special. $3K, no. That is just pointless with a capital P.
 

f1sherman

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I would be more willing to bet its because there is very low supply of them. The main reason nVidia releases these high end cards is to say "We are the fastest". They do not make much off them because they do not sell many of them (In comparison to mainstream cards).

If that was their reason they would put some stupid open air cooler and clocked it @1100 MHz
But this is exactly what AMD will do if they make dual Hawaii.

So who's out to make money and who's for titles?
 

HurleyBird

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$3000 is way too much. Unless form factor is a huge concern you'd be better off with dual Titan Blacks, and I can't see too many situations where a smaller form factor is worth an extra $1000.
 

OCGuy

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I would be more willing to bet its because there is very low supply of them. The main reason nVidia releases these high end cards is to say "We are the fastest". They do not make much off them because they do not sell many of them (In comparison to mainstream cards).

What is a mainstream card, just so I can draw the picture in my head here.
 

rtsurfer

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What is a mainstream card, just so I can draw the picture in my head here.

Something that doesn't cost as much as the down payment of your next car loan.

Also it does not give you gaming performance that can be achieved at a significantly lower price point product from the same company.
 

Stuka87

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What is a mainstream card, just so I can draw the picture in my head here.

nVidia's mainstream GPU have been their x50 and x60 series cards for many years now. Currently being the 750 and 760 based cards.

The x70 and x80 are their enthusiast line.
 

Vesku

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Should probably come with a T-shirt and hat that is exclusive to Titan Z purchase for the extra recognition that you "need" the Titan Z over 2 or even 3 Titan Blacks.

Anyone know what niche you'd want very dense CUDA racks and could trade away, for more CUDA per $ and less PCIe slots needed, the ECC and support of the Tesla/Quadro lines by getting Titan Zs?
 
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tolis626

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I don't get the hate that this card is getting. It's 3000$, so it must be better than the miserable 780ti. It's for people with swag. Wake up, sheep!

But seriously? I could believe that they are preparing us for a grand April Fools joke. I can't believe they actually ask people to give 3000$ for a GPU. It could make me coffee and do the laundry for me. I still wouldn't give 3000$.

EDIT : Not to mention that someone who is willing to spend that much on a GPU for professional use probably won't be getting one of these.
 

KaRLiToS

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I have some doubt that this card will cost (or sale) 2,999$.
Maybe around the 1,999$ Price point or less.

I hope people will NOT buy this card at 2,999$. Don't encourage these price gouging.

These freakin' companies need to learn now.
 

kagui

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for why somebody will buy this for compute? if you dont have the drivers nor
the ecc memory, so no way of knowing if your data is correct
 

skipsneeky2

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When i first saw this, the first thing i said was wow at the specs then i said holy s*** when i saw the price.:awe:

Guessing the only purpose of this card for a gamer is if he goes for 3?Is that even possible with a dual gpu card?
 

Headfoot

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I wanna see an epic workstation with 4 of these in it. Real-time ray tracing here we come
 

Arkaign

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I wanna see an epic workstation with 4 of these in it. Real-time ray tracing here we come

Rendering farms already can pool K40s, and they would never use a consumer part to do so.

This is a halo gaming part, and would be questionable for workstation use, at best.
 

OCGuy

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I have some doubt that this card will cost (or sale) 2,999$.
Maybe around the 1,999$ Price point or less.

I hope people will NOT buy this card at 2,999$. Don't encourage these price gouging.

These freakin' companies need to learn now.

The majority of purchases (at least in the US) will be made by either .orgs or corporations. Even the individuals who technically purchase it, will most likely write it off on Schedule C.

A gamer who buys it deserves the ridicule, since anyone who looks into it would know that the extra 2k on top of Titan Black is not just for another GK110 + 6GB VRAM.
 

OCGuy

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This is a halo gaming part, and would be questionable for workstation use, at best.

Not even close. The pool of people buying one to only play games will be extremely small.

There are several articles that came out today that referenced the fact that the majority of even Titan Black buyers aren't gamers, so it is a hard sell that something 3x the price will be any different.

Density and power consumption are not marketing fluff to people inside the compute world. Being slightly under-clocked, but getting two GK110s within PCI-Spec? Not for me, but for someone I am sure.

I have been known to make purchases with discretionary income that people whisper behind my back about...and I love computer hardware and gaming. I would be the target market for a $3k gaming card, and I wouldn't get within 10ft of this thing. 2x 780ti, or even the ASUS 760x2, would be my pick.
 
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