So you think the professional market are penny pinchers? In general, that isn't the case IMO. If the card helps them do their jobs, then the price will be higher than a normal consumer based GPU such as a GTX 780. I'll take a wild stab at the cost. This was actually mentioned in the video I posted above by Linus, it's about making more dense GK110 clusters, of course you can add more GK110 based CUDA development oriented cards to a cluster or chassis when there are two GPUs on board. If you're making a GK110 cluster based system for CUDA development, you can use a Titan black. Sure. What if you have 10 pcie slots and want 20 GK110 based cards. What then? Well, the Titan Z allows more densely packed GK110 clusters for professional use. That's what linus mentioned and it makes complete sense.
I'm going to take a wild guess that the professional market and CUDA developers aren't penny pinchers. If nvidia priced it at 3000$, then that's what the professional market will bear.
Now the card obviously isn't for me either. I'm a gamer. I'm not a CUDA developer. I would not buy this card for 2000$. Or 1500$. I would buy a GTX 780, though. That's my card, since it's oriented solely towards gaming. It isn't a hybrid professional / gaming card as the Titan cards are. Anyway, I think nvidia should be the ones worrying about the cost. If they think the scientific market or CUDA developers won't pay 3000$, but they'll pay 5000$ for a K6000 (which has less DP performance than the Titan Z). Well I dunno. Sounds fair to me for the professional market even if i'm not the target for the product.
Now that the Titan Z came with its 3000$ price tag, suddenly the 780ti and more so the Titan Black
Titan is a gaming card, it's marketed as a gaming card. It's not even a real halo card! Technically Titan Black IS the halo card, this actually gives you less performance for 50% more money.Are we arguing "VALUE" in the professional and scientific market? I'm certainly not that enjoys arguing economics because this should be an obvious fact. First the obvious. This card does not make sense for a PC gamer. Sure, it works for gaming. If you want it. If you have hundred dollar bills growing in your front yard. If you want it for that, or for CUDA developers that game part time, it works for that. But the card is faster than the K6000 for CUDA development and costs less. This is the reason for the cost. Not for gaming.
And like I said, while I would never in a million years consider a Titan card for gaming - the price is due to the fact that it is significantly better than any GTX 780 or 780ti for CUDA development compute related tasks. Something like 60 times faster. For that segment of market, the card makes sense, and we can go to paragraph one to see if nvidia is selling the cards. Before asking the question, is the price stupid? Well we can just go back to market share. Or we can compare this card in relation to the K6000 for CUDA development. Is nvidia selling cards or no? What's their market share? What's nvidia's discrete GPU market share? What is nvidia's professional market share? What is their competitions market share? Is their competition market share going up or down? All of the answers to the combined questions, well there you go, that's the answer. Someone in the professional market or perhaps a part time gamer/CUDA developer is willing to pay for it. I hate arguing economics but it's quite obvious that pricepoints for anything related to the professional sector has a higher pricetag, and nvidia apparently has people buying it for just that.
No, this is not the card I want. I don't think any reasonable PC gamer would get this over a 780ti. Despite it being marketed partially for halo gaming. That's not the only thing the card does. In fact, no PC gamer should get this IMO. But it is for more than PC gaming, as all are prior Titan cards. And that is the reason for the price tag. For the professional sector that does CUDA development.
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Do you want the next GTX 880 to cost $1300? Because that's what nvidia wants. This card needs to be boycotted. Nvidia has moved from money-grabbing to outright hurting gamers.
This is an absurd price, seriously why other than to show it off. I'll probably kick someone in the balls if I ever hear that they bought one of these.
We need a competent 3rd player in the video card business.
Just to be clear... Nvidia will not name a professionnal card with the "GTX" (or geforce) prefix aimed toward "GAMERS".
GTX (geforce) cards were always meant for gamers. Calling it a professionnal card will not justify this FREAKIN high price.
if they are stupid enough to buy it.
So nvidia's ideal customer is an idiot with lots of money. I guess that's who they market they're products to now, people "stupid enough to buy it"
Personally I don't like companies treating me like an idiot, which is why I haven't bought an nvidia card since the 285.
Late 2013 15" rMBP 2.6Ghz i7 4960HQ 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 512GB SSD Geforce GT750M MOBILE
Mid 2011 13" MBA 1.7Ghz i5 2557M 4GB 1333Mhz DDR3 256GB SSD intel HD 4000
Mid 2010 13" Macbook Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4 Ghz 4GB 1066Mhz DDR3 320GB HDD Geforce GT320 MOBILE
Celeron G1820 2.7Ghz 8GB DDR3 1600 128GB SSD 500GB HDD B85 Sapphire Radeon R9 280X
well you still gave your money to a company that according to you thinks you are an idiot. looks like Nvidia won and you dont even realize it.I'm not sure if you knew this, but a graphics CARD is modular. You can't buy a macbook and put a different CARD in it.
As I said, I have not bought an NVIDIA graphics CARD since the 285
well you still gave your money to a company that according to you thinks you are an idiot. looks like Nvidia won and you dont even realize it.
well you still gave your money to a company that according to you thinks you are an idiot. looks like Nvidia won and you dont even realize it.
well you still gave your money to a company that according to you thinks you are an idiot. looks like Nvidia won and you dont even realize it.
you live in a special place dont you?So I guess everybody who bought an Xbox360 Xbox One or PS4 supports AMD?
I gave my money to Apple, they gave me a computer.
AMD has 100% marketshare in consoles, I wonder why MS AND Sony both went with AMD? Maybe because nvidia tried to rip them off. Maybe they realized that nvidia just doesn't have the quality hardware they need?
So I guess everybody who bought an Xbox360 Xbox One or PS4 supports AMD?
I gave my money to Apple, they gave me a computer.
AMD has 100% marketshare in consoles, I wonder why MS AND Sony both went with AMD? Maybe because nvidia tried to rip them off. Maybe they realized that nvidia just doesn't have the quality hardware they need?
Yes they supported AMD by purchasing that product since AMD was used inside. When you give money to a company you are supporting them. I'm happy to see you understand how it works.
you live in a special place dont you?
what arguments? its just you making a fool of yourself with senseless ranting. the fact that you dont even realize how ridiculous you act is why I said you live in a special place...You should try supporting your arguments instead of insulting people. At least the other people are contributing SOMETHING besides insults.
I live in LA, so yeah you could say a special place. Certainly more special than any city besides NYC.
what arguments? I'm just making a fool of myself with senseless ranting. the fact that you dont even realize it how ridiculous you act is why I said you live in special place...
Of course I understand, and as you can see people LOVE AMD. Look at all the people, millions, who on day one went out and supported AMD!
When was the last time intel sold 4 million chips in one day??