So why are you upgrading from a 780Ti then? If you didn't care about $, you'd do 780Ti -> 980 -> 980Ti/Titan X -> 1080.
I wonder the same thing. on one hand i read ppl saying 'oh i dont mind upgrading every gen since i have so much money to spend on the other hand ppl say 980ti makes no sense since 1070 uses x units of energy as compared to x+y of 980 ti'. really!! ppl spent $650+ a year(or so) back & are now ready to shell out another $375-450 now but spending more on power consumption doesnt make sense to them?
Your response is flawed since everyone is affected. Even the gamers who buy $100-200 GPUs are now getting crap that in the past used to cost $50-100. Because $249 560Ti is now a $599-699 1080, that automatically means every single card that used to be below GTX560Ti level card is also going up in price. That means 1050/1050Ti/1060/1060Ti are all going up in price 50-100% vs. historical prices. NV is just cleverly hiding these facts by renaming cards using marketing names (aka 660Ti is now a 1070, 680 is now a 1080 but 680 itself was really just a true 660Ti in the first place. Clever).
and i may add these prices might not seem too high in the US but everywhere else they increase considerably more. ex. 1080 FE is about 900 in india, easily crossing 800 in EU and touching 800 in australia (dnt even want to touch S.America)
at this point many will say USA's economy is good so we r not affected. some will say problems of their economies is their headache but i don't think we can ignore the fact that these ppl contribute to nvidia/amd's revenue. if prices keep increasing like this more ppl will turn to consoles(since rumors of 4k ps4 are already circulating) and that means when revenue targets are revised next gen nvidia/amd will have lesser buyers to reap that revenue.
I am happy for those who have good disposable income but if your disposable income doubles are you ok with paying 20-30-40% more for the similar products even if all other costs of production/logistics etc have not increased that much?
also, when more people will move to consoles the game devs will focus further more on developing primarily for consoles. which means newer cards will look fast even if they are only 20-30&% faster since games won't be that demanding but since prices of gpu will keep increasing more ppl will move to consoles and the cycle keeps repeating.
Of course they are. You think they split a generation into 2 parts because they are bored? They know
exactly what they are doing. What's happening right now is a nice parallel to the high-end audiophile market. Guess
who else decided to join on the fun? It's simple economics at play. Once NV pulled off the Kepler generation, it's not realistic anything will change. That's because high-end gamers now have no choices period.
thank you for reinforcing my point. ppl are not understanding where i am coming from. i am not against any one company or product, i am concerned about the practices which are slowly but surely hurting the whole market. everyone is ridiculing AMD's pricing for 480Polaris but why wont they set such prices since competition has already set a base price.
Option 1: Buy in on the 1st half of a new generation (that means "flagship" next mid-range cards). Get thrown under the bus a year after when real flagships come out.
Option 2: Buy in on the 2nd half of a new generation (that means true flagship priced at flagship prices -- but these prices keep going up too!). Get thrown under the bus a year after when the next gen mid-range card comes out offering similar performance for nearly half the price.
Between these 2 options, because we know the generations are split into 2 or even 3 parts (get ready for a possible repeat of 680->780->780Ti as we might not even get the true fully unlocked 1080Ti right off the bat), it's now impossible to maintain the resale value of your card forcing you to upgrade far more often than ever.
The only way this will stop is once current gen consoles hold back PC development so much that even a $249 card will run every 2018-2021 AAA game at 1080p 120-140 FPS and 1440p at 60 FPS. But then PS5/XB2 will come out and the cycle will start again.
I think consoles are doing much better now. 1st they have moved from complex architectures PC like architecture & now if the rumors are true they are planning to reduce console life cycle. which means console gamers won't have to wait long to get better looking games on their consoles. i wont be surprised if sony adopts freesync-esc tech in their tvs to provide more fluid experience to playstation players.
My personal way out of this nonsense has been mining. Haven't paid for a single GPU upgrade since 2008 but even I know this perk will run out sooner or later. That's why I am going to try to max out this free bonus feature over the next 1-2 years. Will probably buy 7-12 more mining cards over June-July. Should be enough to get me through to 2020 without paying for GPUs.