I have fully admitted to this openly and without shame. However this launch has also driven me crazy enough to the point of wanting to eat cat food for some reason, so that love for Nvidia is fading fast.
I get the feeling this was partly directed at me.
Why would I have to respect someone's poor decision to buy "bad" products? I mean, if enough people are willing to buy an inferior product, why would they sell something better for cheaper? If these FE cards sell like hotcakes, I would expect custom cards to be more money? Their poor choices can affect other buyer's purchasing decisions, but we are supposed to respect it because you say so?
I also stand by my statement that if your purchasing decisions are based on your love for a company.... you are a imbecile. Has anyone on this forum admitted to this??? I eagerly await, if not, then no one on here was called an imbecile. So lighten up.
You don't have to understand where I'm coming from, you just have to respect my opinion.... LOL
insulting other members is not allowed
Markfw900
Nice video about this issue - Does the GTX1080 have Thermal Throttling Issues?
Card can't handle a boost clock and falls to base clock after 5 minutes of Crysis 3. You have to raise temperature limit and power limit to hold a boost clock.
So you have to raise limits to hold a boost clock -> higher power usage then been shown in reviews.
Really nice move nVidia :biggrin:
So why are they discloses a boost clocks ...and what about higher TDP?
Lets not forget he is not using the card in a case while doing this. Just think how bad the temps will be in a case, those setting he did will not really work and he only did it for a short time. Who only games for 5mins?
I have fully admitted to this openly and without shame. However this launch has also driven me crazy enough to the point of wanting to eat cat food for some reason, so that love for Nvidia is fading fast.
The card doesnt run at the base clock at every time.
There doesnt exist any difference. In a case it could even be beater because the front fans will take fresh air directly to the cooler.
BTW: There are enough sites like Computerbase or Hardware.fr which used a case and presented their clocks.
Yes, you are right.The card doesnt run at the base clock at every time
Yup, for all of Fiji's problems, Fury X / Pro Duo are exactly what comes to mind when I think of "premium" design. Ever since those came out it's been hard for me to ever look at reference cards the same again. Sure those might (? idk really lol) have had problems with coil whine and probably some other things I'm forgetting, but $100 premium for a blower style cooler is total crap I'd agree.
Yes, you are right.
It runs at boost clock during first 5 - 10 minutes until it reaches temp limit, after that time it runs at base clock until you stop playing and card cools down.
It doesnt run at base clock the whole time. Base clock is just a guaranteed clock. AotS for example runs at 1788MHz. Anno2205 on the other hand is so demanding that the FE will run at base clock.
I guess that's the reason why they are calling it a boost.
The only reason the fury x struggled was the 980ti aftermarket cards vs the fury x.Exactly. The Fury X cooler is the definition of a premium cooler worth spending a extra money for. Spending extra for a reference cooler is just laughable.
The only reason the fury x struggled was the 980ti aftermarket cards vs the fury x.
Unless the aftermarket 1080s are at $600-650 I can't recommend a 1080 when fury x would give you water cooling for that premium.
After fury x and sapphire designs, I can't accept a remotely bad cooler. It's either amazing cooler or your card is a joke.
No one deserves a crappy cooler especially at a premium.
Is there anything you think is good about the 1080?
To me, you can have the best cooler in the world. If the card doesn't overclock, its not going to sell with enthusiasts.
You can't overclock if you can't cool it either... so you would need both.
Hence why I couldn't bring myself to touch either card. My standards have gone up since seeing the latest crop of cards. I expect a high end cooler on flagship models and for them to have oc headroom.To me, you can have the best cooler in the world. If the card doesn't overclock, its not going to sell with enthusiasts.
Hence why I couldn't bring myself to touch either card. My standards have gone up since seeing the latest crop of cards. I expect a high end cooler on flagship models and for them to have oc headroom.
If you don't combine the two I'm not interested and will take a more affordable solution.
For me, I'll be looking for amd to continue the water cooler for the flagship card, or to offer aib models from sapphire.
While having oc headroom..
Otherwise, I'll just get something else or nothing.
Also I can't support people forcing a cooler on you. If the next flagship model of Nvidia or amd doesn't give aibs flexibility I'm annoyed. Titan x should be made however aibs desire same with fury x. Reference design is jut that, a reference. Don't force it on us.
Of the FE? No. It's overpriced and OCs like crap. This assumes AIB cards will actually be better and cheaper. If not, 1080 is complete fail for consumers and anyone paying attention would be ***** to buy it.
Same performance/$ than old Gen on older Process
Moving to new nodes was to get same performance for cheaper or more performance for same price. 1080 increases both equally. If we apply this backwards modern CPUs would cost millions by the same logic.
I see that there's a discussion about the AIO coolers going on I have mixed feelings. If I had a card with such a cooler what am I supposed to do? Run two water loops when my main loop doesn't even break a sweat. Is the threading a standardized 1/4mm so I can attach the block to my main loop? That would break the AIO cooler though.