Maybe you should have read the Anandtech article:
Why? I wasn't quoting them. I was quoting you.
I was most impressed with a gtx 460 1gb @ 827 core beating a 5850 in Bad Company 2. This game favors ATI cards.
The 768mb version @ 843 core also hot on the 5850's tail.
GTX 460 1GB Final Clock Speeds
Graphics Clock: 827Mhz
Processor Clock: 1654Mhz
Memory Clock: 4220Mhz (QDR)
GTX 460 768MB Final Clock Speeds
Graphics Clock: 843Mhz
Processor Clock: 1686Mhz
Memory Clock: 4244Mhz (QDR)
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...orce-gtx-460-1gb-gtx-460-768mb-review-18.html
The thing about those cards is they seem to be all over the place, the 465, 460 1GB, 460 768, 5830 and 5850.
If I didn't get my 5770 for $50 thanks to bill me later, I'd be tempted to get one of these. It's still around a $50 difference considering I've seen 5770s go for as low as $130, but not bad for the NV tax and performance gain.
The 5850 can overclock to crazy speeds too. And by that I mean 900+ MHz.
I don't understand what you are saying?
I was pointing out that if a 827 core clock beats a 5850 in THIS Ati favorite game, then a more mild 795 core clock with the 1gb gtx 460 could equal a 5850 in many other games. I think thats impressive for the 230$ price I saw for the 1gb card on Newegg this morning.
I should have been clearer. I was talking about the whole review. Thats a nice overclock, but I generally don't OC so it doesn't mean much to me.
why would you not overclock a gpu? all it takes it takes is a few seconds to move a slider. I can understand not messing with voltage but not doing a simple oc makes no sense because thats just free performance. in the case of the gtx460 thats about 20-25% more performance which you would be crazy not to utilize.I should have been clearer. I was talking about the whole review. Thats a nice overclock, but I generally don't OC so it doesn't mean much to me.
how did you get a 5770 for $50? even with bing cashback, ebill me whatever, I've never seen it even close to that.
in the case of the gtx460 thats about 20-25% more performance which you would be crazy not to utilize.
is that 20~25% averaged over a lot of games? at what MHz?
why would you not overclock a gpu? all it takes it takes is a few seconds to move a slider. I can understand not messing with voltage but not doing a simple oc makes no sense because thats just free performance. in the case of the gtx460 thats about 20-25% more performance which you would be crazy not to utilize.
thats a ridiculous bunch of excuses. if you are not adding voltage then overclocking the card a bit is not going to hurt it or reduce its realistic lifespan. hell I have a 6600 from 2004 with a 33% oc that works fine. my gtx260 has been been overclocked for well over a year and half. and overclocking my gtx260 has helped make games more playable or allowed me to raise settings that would not have been possible at stock speeds. also with most cards the power consumption and temp difference is marginal. I see only 1-2 C difference and about 15 watts difference under full load compared to my gtx260 at stock settings.For me personally: temps, power consumption, shortening the lifespan of the card, small returns. If I need more from my card I usually upgrade. I will overclock a CPU though much more benefit from that.
Funny how NV just EOLed its new GTX 465 with these cards. You'd have to be crazy to buy something that's more expensive, hotter, slower(in a lot of scenarios), and has less features (no bitstreaming) over one of these. Based on the name I think they can't really price them lower than the 460 either so what will they be doing with all the bad GF100s?
Maybe they'll quickly phase out GF100 production entirely to make just GF104s and higher end versions of that.
For me personally: temps, power consumption, shortening the lifespan of the card, small returns. If I need more from my card I usually upgrade. I will overclock a CPU though much more benefit from that.