Gtx 460 reviews thread

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the world of not having enough time to do a proper review.
This was raised in the comments of the AT review, so I will put the graphs here that Ryan linked (page 4 of the comments)

Thanks Lonyo! That makes sense (not enough time) and I'm glad to see the benches don't show anything bad happening to Cuda performance.

Been waiting for the $200 sku...I don't game much but I do use cuda with tmpgenc.

 

[aldamon]

Barely any better than 4890 and costs much more. Lame. Guess I will still wait for upgrade.

Agreed. I liken the accolades to Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[RussianSensation]

Anywhere a review about the Gainward GTX460 GLH?

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Brief look
http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/reviews/gainwards-gtx-460-golden-sample-goes-like-hell-previewed

 

[v8envy]

Agreed. I liken the accolades to Stockholm Syndrome.

Not really. In the 50s a guy working at a burger joint could afford a 'vette. Would it be Stockholm Syndrome if suddenly Toyota brought out a vette-class performer for $30k (and I guarantee you that'd get accolades) even though the typical burger flipper of our time can't afford that?

Time marches forward. We've had about a year of terrible performance/dollar products, so new tech on par with what we had a year ago for $200 now retailing for $240 seems amazing relative to what our other current choices are.

 

[edplayer]

Not really. In the 50s a guy working at a burger joint could afford a 'vette.

Serious?

 

[aldamon]

Not really. In the 50s a guy working at a burger joint could afford a 'vette. Would it be Stockholm Syndrome if suddenly Toyota brought out a vette-class performer for $30k (and I guarantee you that'd get accolades) even though the typical burger flipper of our time can't afford that?

Time marches forward. We've had about a year of terrible performance/dollar products, so new tech on par with what we had a year ago for $200 now retailing for $240 seems amazing relative to what our other current choices are.

Yup. Stockholm Syndrome confirmed.

 

[MrK6]

Not really. In the 50s a guy working at a burger joint could afford a 'vette. Would it be Stockholm Syndrome if suddenly Toyota brought out a vette-class performer for $30k (and I guarantee you that'd get accolades) even though the typical burger flipper of our time can't afford that?

Time marches forward. We've had about a year of terrible performance/dollar products, so new tech on par with what we had a year ago for $200 now retailing for $240 seems amazing relative to what our other current choices are.

Glad to see others are of the same school of thought. I think the GTX 460 is a decent product, but it certainly isn't anything amazing nor deserving of the a lot of this hoopla. As of now, it really doesn't add anything to the market that we haven't had.

 

[MentalIlness]

LOL...check out this review from a EVGA model 768 on Newegg....


Pros: Performance of a GTX 480 SLI for the price of a GTX 460? Wow, how did Nvidia do it?

Crysis warhead now plays at 1080p at 100fps (and this with an Athlon x2).

 

[schneiderguy]

Well done Nvidia, it's another 8800 GT

Considering it's barely faster than a GTX 260 which was selling for less than $200 1.5 years ago, no it isn't.

 

[toyota]

Considering it's barely faster than a GTX 260 which was selling for less than $200 1.5 years ago, no it isn't.

yeah at first I thought it was an oky deal and then I looked at the techreport review. in some cases the gtx460 1gb is no faster than my gtx260 which I only paid $180(plus free game) for 18 months ago.

 

[happy medium]

yeah at first I thought it was an oky deal and then I looked at the techreport review. in some cases the gtx460 1gb is no faster than my gtx260 which I only paid $180(plus free game) for 18 months ago.

I was looking through the fore sale/trade section and seen 4870x2 for $210 OBO, a 4890 for 115$ OBO, gtx 260, 216 overclocked for $125, and a whole mess of great deals.

It seems no one wants a direct x 10 card? Mabe.? I think the difference is now people want a direct x 11 card, its not just a performance upgrade.

 

[toyota]

I was looking through the fore sale/trade section and seen 4870x2 for $210 OBO, a 4890 for 115$ OBO, gtx 260, 216 overclocked for $125, and a whole mess of great deals.

It seems no one wants a direct x 10 card? Mabe.? I think the difference is now people want a direct x 11 card, its not just a performance upgrade.

DX11 doesnt mean squat to me at this point. its also almost useless on a card like the gtx460 since by the time you use those DX11 features such as tessellation, the framerate tanks in most cases.

since I dont care about AA so much I can actually play almost every game out there at basically the highest settings at 1920x1080 with the gtx260. sure I dont average 60fps in the more demanding games but neither do most of the high end cards.

 

[Wreckage]

yeah at first I thought it was an oky deal and then I looked at the techreport review. in some cases the gtx460 1gb is no faster than my gtx260 which I only paid $180(plus free game) for 18 months ago.

From the Techreport review....

The Fermi-based GPUs have the advantage here, so much so that the GTX 460 1GB essentially matches the Radeon HD 5870.

A $200 card that can run with ATI's top chip (which costs at least twice as much).

That truly is impressive.

 

[Lonyo]

From the Techreport review....



A $200 card that can run with ATI's top chip (which costs at least twice as much).

That truly is impressive.

It's impressive that a card that costs $200 less than another card can match it in one game at one resolution?

Here's the HD5850 beating the GTX480:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/...x-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/14
My god, how amazing is the HD5850? It can run with NV's top chip despite having a launch RRP of just above half the GTX480 RRP! (See, I can do it too, whee).

Yes, it's a nice card, but don't pretend it's something it's not.

 

[toyota]

From the Techreport review....



A $200 card that can run with ATI's top chip (which costs at least twice as much).

That truly is impressive.

wow, dont be an idiot. that techreport quote was referring to the Metro 2033 benchmark ONLY.

 

[Wreckage]

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-460-Debut-ZOTAC-EVGA/?page=3

Once again DX11 + Tessellation = a win.

 

[v8envy]

Not even the 480 can do tesselation well in metro 2033. So yes, it's true: the 460 can't do playable tesselation about as well as the 5870 can't do playable tesselation. Likewise, the 5770 also can't do playable tesselation, nor can the 5450...

Most of the current crop of DX11 cards should be judged only on their DX10 and DX9 merits, they're only going to give you a slideshow of "my first DX11 experience" for games making heavy use of advanced DX11 features.

And I still say the 460 is a revolutionary thing in TODAY'S STAGNANT MARKET where the 5850 is still $40 more than original MSRP. Something, anything viable from nvidia was painfully missing for going on 10 months. Now we have something other than G92 restickers, and that's a good start.

 

[toyota]

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-460-Debut-ZOTAC-EVGA/?page=3

Once again DX11 + Tessellation = a win.

lol. have fun playing that benchmark...

 

[Wreckage]

Not even the 480 can do tesselation well in metro 2033.

According to the Techreport article it does just fine, maybe your card was using older drivers. :\

The more noteworthy outcome may be the fact that the GTX 460 achieves playable frame rates, with a low of 30 FPS, while the 5830 doesn't quite cut it. That's the sort of difference one would notice while gaming.

 

[Wreckage]

lol. have fun playing that benchmark...

OK, here's another one look at the benchmarks with AA and Tessellation.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...force-gtx-460-1gb-gtx-460-768mb-review-7.html

Once again another win.

 

[toyota]

OK, here's another one look at the benchmarks with AA and Tessellation.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...force-gtx-460-1gb-gtx-460-768mb-review-7.html

Once again another win.

only with 4x AA on does it pull ahead. and your earlier out of context quote from techreport was nothing but a troll post. it also had nothing to do with my comment so I am sure why you even quoted me.

 

[v8envy]

I don't see the win in the AvP. The 5850 slaughters the 1gb 460, and the 768mb version delivers about 70% the frames in one setting. In fact, at 25x16 the 5770 pulls away from the lower end 460!

And I think we can all agree the 5830 is a flaming turd. The real competition is the 5850, the 5830 was stillborn -- much like the 465.

 

[Lonyo]

OK, here's another one look at the benchmarks with AA and Tessellation.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...force-gtx-460-1gb-gtx-460-768mb-review-7.html

Once again another win.

Yes, welcome to graphics cards. Sometimes one card/architecture beats another even though it typically loses.
This is not a new phenomenon.

Also the competition is based on price @ v8envy. While the HD5850 is more expensive, it's not competition in the purest sense, while HD5830 vs GTX460 768MB is pure competition since they are equally priced.

 

[Wreckage]

only with 4x AA on does it pull ahead.

That's pretty important don't you think. Most people play with some sort of AA on.

As to why I quoted you, it's important to look at DX11 performance here and how it relates to the competition. DX10/9 performance is irrelevant as you noted any old card can do that.

I won't even mention other gaming features like CUDA, 3D or Physics as ATI simply can't do those. But the new Fermi architecture offers improvements to much of this over older cards as well.

I don't see the win in the AvP.

Look at the benchmarks with AA enabled.

 

[v8envy]

Yes, welcome to graphics cards. Sometimes one card/architecture beats another even though it typically loses.
This is not a new phenomenon.

Also the competition is based on price @ v8envy. While the HD5850 is more expensive, it's not competition in the purest sense, while HD5830 vs GTX460 768MB is pure competition since they are equally priced.

I don't think anyone recommends the 5830 or expects it to sell well, while everyone expects the 460 to sell in buckets. Like the 465, the 5830 is an enthusiastically castrated, limited volume salvage part meant to sell mostly to The Faithful or those lacking in knowledge. Not be a mass market product.

No, the real competition is the 5850 which IS a popular volume part.