GTX 550...first ever graphics card to ship with a mixed memory configuration

[exar333]

Yeah, this should be just north of $100 for a decent price. You can still get deals on the 460 768MB <$100. That is a much better deal and a faster card.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm not shocked your putting words in my mouth
Or which members feel threatened by new competition.

Look, look launch day pricing can't compete with deal of the day pricing, its unbelievable !

By all means, if the price settles down it could be a decent part. But I think this part needs to drop pretty far down to make sense. It looks like the 4870 gives it a pretty good run...

 

[Arkadrel]

That card is competing with an ATI card that was released in...2009.

In this review 6 out of the 10 games tested are TWIMTBP games favoring Nvidia. I guess there will never be transparent criteria for selecting the test games in here. Looking forward to see 110&#37; of the games tested on Anand being TWIMTBP games.

From the articals comments...

I didnt even notice the 6 out of 10 TWIMTBP games selected.
Now Im wondering how much faster than a 5770 this card really is.... might be less than 7% that Anandtech has it at, if you look at more games.

and for a 50% price differnce.... this card makes no sense to buy at 150$.


faster is always better right? +7% performance for +50% costs sounds fair...
Clearly the old 5770 from 2009 is in alot of trouble

 

[Skurge]

By all means, if the price settles down it could be a decent part. But I think this part needs to drop pretty far down to make sense. It looks like the 4870 gives it a pretty good run...

haha

I totally didn't see that. The 4870 is getting on 3yrs old now.

It can't compete with any pricing...period.

 

[Arkadrel]

Low end market is gonna be taken by INTEL IGP GPUs, and AMDs APUs.

I remember JHH saying something about them stepping up the game on lowend....

Llano wont be fast enough to take over the 5770 or the 550 ti, but maybe next gen of Llano will...


6 months from now we could be talking about the Llano gen 2 vs the 650 ti.
A onboard IGP in a APU vs a discrete card.

 

[tincart]

6 months from now we could be talking about the Llano gen 2 vs the 650 ti.
A onboard IGP in a APU vs a discrete card.

We may be talking about Llano 2 in 6 months, but when they are able to execute on all that talk is another matter. I'm much less confident in timely execution by AMD on the CPU side of things.

 

[Vette73]

Low end market is gonna be taken by INTEL IGP GPUs, and AMDs APUs.

I remember JHH saying something about them stepping up the game on lowend....

Llano wont be fast enough to take over the 5770 or the 550 ti, but maybe next gen of Llano will...


6 months from now we could be talking about the Llano gen 2 vs the 650 ti.
A onboard IGP in a APU vs a discrete card.

Yea I expect Llano to eat into the 56XX areas. The weakness right now holding llano back will probable be the memory bandwidth.

Even then ATI is AMD so AMD gets a sell but for every system using Llano or intel; Nvida will be the big loser in the next couple years.

 

[n0x1ous]

Yea I expect Llano to eat into the 56XX areas. The weakness right now holding llano back will probable be the memory bandwidth.

Even then ATI is AMD so AMD gets a sell but for every system using Llano or intel; Nvida will be the big loser in the next couple years.

Which is why they have turned a good portion of their attention to mobile as thats a market of much greater growth then desktop business.

 

[AtenRa]

Big fail at $150

GTX550 Ti is a decent card for 1680x1050 with 4xAA but not at $150, it has to drop down to $120-130.

Anands review is with the ZOTAC card witch is not a reference design. In other reviews the reference GTX550 is quieter with better thermals and i have seen an MSI Cyclone OC card that has the best thermals so far.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...tx-550-ti-roundup-asus-evga-gigabyte-msi.html

At 1050MHz the GTX550 is very very close to GTX460 768MB (non OC) most of the time.

 

[n0x1ous]

Big fail at $150

GTX550 Ti is a decent card for 1680x1050 with 4xAA but not at $150, it has to drop down to $120-130.

Anands review is with the ZOTAC card witch is not a reference design. In other reviews the reference GTX550 is quieter with better thermals and i have seen an MSI Cyclone OC card that has the best thermals so far.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...tx-550-ti-roundup-asus-evga-gigabyte-msi.html

At 1050MHz the GTX550 is very very close to GTX460 768MB (non OC) most of the time.

Agreed. The EVGA model uses the reference cooler so Im surprised they didnt go with that.

 

[tincart]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-550-ti-gf116-radeon-hd-5770,2892-17.html

Toms Hardware. Masters of the unstated conclusion. "Launch pricing is always high, but the point is if the GeForce GTX 550 Ti sticker settles close to the Radeon HD 5770, it&#8217;s a good buy." Since the sticker price is not close to the 5770, we can infer that it is NOT a good buy at the time of review, but they never explicitly state this, except when challenged in the comments.

 

[Jionix]

I'm not shocked your putting words in my mouth
Or which members feel threatened by new competition.

Look, look launch day pricing can't compete with deal of the day pricing, its unbelievable !

The problem is, Nvidia mistakenly decided to finally compete against a card that's over a year old in a segment they had previously failed at. This is almost like Fermi circa 2010 vs Cypress circa 2009 all over again.

What does this card really offer a gamer? Cuda? Ha. PhysX? I'm gonna cry. Are they worth ~50 more? No, not really.

Better luck next time.

 

[mosox]

The HD5770 was available in 2009. I guess by 2015 Nvidia will finally complete its DX11 line.

 

[Ghiedo27]

Look, look launch day pricing can't compete with deal of the day pricing, its unbelievable!

That doesn't mean we shouldn't call a spade a spade. NV went out of its way to make a bad card.

I get that they want something to replace the 460s, but it should have clipped, symmetrically configured memory. Keep it simple and market it right around the $120 area or less and try to push in on the bargain area. There's only so much a 192 core part can do. It's a 1680x1050 chip, so give it the memory and price to match.

 

[nemesismk2]

GTX 550 I don't think so they should rename it to the GTS 550. It's only a small upgrade from the GTS 450 but maybe even smaller when the GTS 450 is Factory Overclocked.

 

[exar333]

GTX 550 I don't think so they should rename it to the GTS 550. It's only a small upgrade from the GTS 450 but maybe even smaller when the GTS 450 is Factory Overclocked.

This.

 

[tincart]

GTX 550 I don't think so they should rename it to the GTS 550. It's only a small upgrade from the GTS 450 but maybe even smaller when the GTS 450 is Factory Overclocked.

That's not exactly fair. I agree the naming is a bit skewed, but the performance increase is in line with what we would expect. The overclocked 550 partner boards appear to be about 10-20% faster than a 450 depending on the game. The 580 has about the same 10-20% advantage over the 480.

The difference is that the 480 already had an advantage over the closest competitor while the 450 was behind the 5770. The problem is not the performance relative to the 450, but relative to the 5770 and 460, and 6850.

 

[RussianSensation]

That's not exactly fair. I agree the naming is a bit skewed, but the performance increase is in line with what we would expect.

I don't think so because the 450 is crap to begin with. GTX260 216 and HD4870 1GB were $120-130 2 years ago. 1.5 years ago I bought an HD4890 for $175. A $150 GTX550 in 2011 is a slap in the face since it's not faster than any 3 of those cards. A card with this level of performance should cost no more than $99. That's not even taking into account a bunch of $90-110 deals I see on GTX460 768mb every month.

At 1920x1200 4AA, the 550 is only 3&#37; faster than an HD5770. I see at least 2 HD5770 cards on Newegg for $99 after rebates. Therefore, the GTX550 is $50 overpriced (like I said above).

Another way to look at it is by comparing it to the HD6870. You can find a 6870 for $180-190. 6870 is 48% faster at 1920x1200 4AA but is only 27% more expensive. HD6850 is also faster and costs the same.

GTS450/550 are both utter failures from a consumer's perspective. :thumbsdown: In fact, in the entire NV lineup right now, only the GTX460 and the 570 are worth buying imo.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Its called innovation. As far as the driver, thats all transparent to the end user. I'm not sure why that aspect is fail to you. It is faster than the 5770 now, and the price will compete in a couple weeks. Which means AMD needs to bring something new in this segment.

its not innovation, and its not transparent because there's a performance penalty for using mixed memory sizes, and it shows to be little to no better than 128bit. Users would be better off with a 768MB card that might have been able to help the 550 better compete with the 768MB 460.

nVidia purposefully did this for marketing. Idiots will go shopping for a new video card and they'll see the nVidia name coupled alongside with 1GB of memory, oh and they also branded it GTX instead of GTS, and they'll buy it up even though they'd be much better off with a 768MB card (whether that be a real GTX460 or a theoretical GTX550)

the 5770s is overpriced given what we can get with the 768MB 460, all AMD has to do is drop prices, they don't need to bring anything new.

 

[AtenRa]

Im not trying to defend the card as i have already said that the price is not right but performance wise GTX550 is much faster than GTX450 or HD5770.

What most reviews don’t show are MINIMUM Frames and in that department the GTX550 is average 20-30% faster than GTS450 and HD5770.

At $120-130 this card could be the perfect choice for 1680x1050 gaming.

 

[nwo]

and how is it slaughtering

In price and performance.
GTX 460 768mb is faster and cheaper.

At $120-130 this card could be the perfect choice for 1680x1050 gaming.

That price range is already taken by the 768mb version of the GTX 460 which can currently be found on newegg for as low as $115 after MIR.

550Ti would have to be around $110-120 max in order for it to become even remotely competitive with a 5770 and gtx 460 768mb.

 

[toyota]

In price and performance.
GTX 460 768mb is faster and cheaper.

I know that but his comment was strictly about performance.

 

[nwo]

I know that but his comment was strictly about performance.

Well, it does outperform it in every single benchmark. Nothing too significant, but it still shows that the 550Ti failed.

 

[toyota]

Well, it does outperform it in every single benchmark. Nothing too significant, but it still shows that the 550Ti failed.

please go back and look at the context of his post and my reply. as I said it is performing like it should based on its specs.

 

[nwo]

please go back and look at the context of his post and my reply. as I said it is performing like it should based on its specs.

You said it is performing like it should. The person you quoted said it is not following the trend that was set earlier by the 560Ti and that name (numbers) of the 550Ti are deceiving.

560Ti is comparable to the performance of the GTX 470 (within 5%), while that's not really the case with the 550Ti and GTX 460 since the performance difference is around 15% according to the benchmarks.