GTX 550...first ever graphics card to ship with a mixed memory configuration

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toyota

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You said it is performing like it should. The person you quoted said it is not following the trend that was set earlier by the 560Ti and that name (numbers) of the 550Ti are deceiving.

560Ti is comparable to the performance of the GTX 470 (within 5&#37, while that's not really the case with the 550Ti and GTX 460 since the performance difference is around 15% according to the benchmarks.
the point was that just because it was a revised card doesn't magically mean it will get the same performance increase as the others did. the other cards(580,570,560) all added more sp and tmu along with faster clocks. the gtx550 still has the same number of sp as the gts450 and only upped the clocks and memory bit width with corresponding rops. so again based on its specs it is performing like it should.
 
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RussianSensation

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What most reviews don’t show are MINIMUM Frames and in that department the GTX550 is average 20-30% faster than GTS450 and HD5770.

The 550 is barely faster than the 5770 in TechReport's review, despite consuming more power at load, having a louder cooler and running hotter once overclocked. Considering the 6850 is at least 20%+ faster while priced at only $10-15 more, the 550 just makes no sense at all. GTX550 SLI also makes no sense since this setup actually costs more and can't convincigly outperform an HD6950 2GB unlocked into a 6970. Alternatively, the 5770 is $50 less and is only about 10% slower in performance. So if you really want a better gaming experience, you'd spend the extra $15 for the 6850 / GTX460 1GB in the first place.
 
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PingviN

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Im not trying to defend the card as i have already said that the price is not right but performance wise GTX550 is much faster than GTX450 or HD5770.

What most reviews don’t show are MINIMUM Frames and in that department the GTX550 is average 20-30% faster than GTS450 and HD5770.

At $120-130 this card could be the perfect choice for 1680x1050 gaming.

Thats because minimum fps doesn't really show anything. You need a graph of FPS over time for minimum to be relevant in any way. Can you really tell the difference if Card No.1 drops to 15fps for ½ a second while Card No.2 drops to 5fps for ½ a second?

Or even better, Card No.1 drops to 15fps every 5 seconds while Card No.2 drops to 10fps for a duration of 4 frames in total.
 

bryanW1995

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Man, I called it. Nvidia would price it at $150, wouldn't be worth buying until they drop a fat $30 rebate on it:

NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 550 Ti: Coming Up Short At $150
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4221/nvidias-gtx-550-ti-coming-up-short-at-150

I actually thought it would hit GTX460SE speeds. It doesn't. Weak - seriously. There must be a marketing reason nVidia overprices its cards. I think it's probably so OEMs can include the MSRP in the build-to-order configurations.

well, nvidia is themselves killing this card with a gtx 460 768.
 

SlowSpyder

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Thats because minimum fps doesn't really show anything. You need a graph of FPS over time for minimum to be relevant in any way. Can you really tell the difference if Card No.1 drops to 15fps for ½ a second while Card No.2 drops to 5fps for ½ a second?

Or even better, Card No.1 drops to 15fps every 5 seconds while Card No.2 drops to 10fps for a duration of 4 frames in total.


Yea, this is one of the things that Hardocp does right. You can get a pretty good idea of the performance of one card compared to another with the graphs they put up.
 

Tattare

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Didnt the GTX260 start out at a $400 price point 3ish years ago?
3 years from now if the GTX550 hits $37.50 it might be a hot buy.
 

Arkadrel

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The point is the 550ti is around 3%~7% faster than a 5770, depending on how many titles are TWIMTBP when they benchmark them.

Now you dont have the be the smartest fellow in the world, to see that 3%-7% performance gain for 50% price differnce is REALLY bad value.

Also that 3%-7% gain comes at a cost of more watts used, more noise, more heat.

This card shouldnt be sold for more than 110$.... sadly I think people will just see the Nvidia logo, and the 550 name and buy it anyways at 150$+ prices.
 

Ghiedo27

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In fairness to the gtx 260 it was released before the 4xxx series. It's faster than a 3870x2 and was a huge chip, so you can at least understand it.

By contrast, the 550ti is a severely pared down part (half the SP of a 560ti) and it's slower than nvidia's own cheaper part from last year. It's priced like they wanted it to fill the shoes of a card with at least 1/3rd more stream processors and proper bandwidth on the 1gb ram.

Unfortunately, I don't see how they're going to follow the best part of the 260's release- the increased core version that soon followed along with big price drops.
 

jiffylube1024

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$10 more, you get the much faster 6850, $20 less you get the generally faster 460 768, $50 less you get the just as fast 5770.

Very poor pricing indeed. Not to mention its louder, hotter and uses more power than the competing cards.

Yep. The problem is that a 5770 is very close to a Ti 550 while consuming MUCH less power.

The fact that the Ti 550 consumes the same power as a 6870 is disturbing, since the Ti 550 is not even in the same league as the 6870 or even 6850.

well, nvidia is themselves killing this card with a gtx 460 768.

The GTX 460 series was lightning in a bottle. As long as there are GTX 460's for sale for anywhere from $100-150, the Ti 550 is a waste at anything north of $100. I really think that the GTX 460 is still a fantastic card to own at $100-130 - it's super quiet, runs cool, and consumes a very reasonable amount of power. The only reason I sold mine was to get a card with Display Port connectors, and because I could upgrade to a 6870 for cheap at the time.
 

Skurge

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They are going to like the gtx moniker, the 1000mhz clock speeds and eventually the price. How come every 5770 is not 100 dollars after rebate ?

Enjoy fans of the gtx550
How to build a kick-ass Crysis 2 PC for under $600

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=195575

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_550_Ti_Amp_Edition/23.html

Even with CIV5 skewing those results, its still a piss poor buy compared to the cheaper 460 768mb

With current drivers:
 

Arkadrel

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From Hexus.net TESTED with newest drivers for both!:
















NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 550 Ti is a little bit confused. The design has merit and NVIDIA's now realising the full potential of last year's GTS 450, but this evolutionary 500-series part is fighting in a price bracket to which it doesn't belong.

Main weakness of this card is just its price, thats about it.
Usually 1-5 fps faster than a 5770, but it costs 50% more than a 5770?
 
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tincart

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I don't think so because the 450 is crap to begin with. GTX260 216 and HD4870 1GB were $120-130 2 years ago. 1.5 years ago I bought an HD4890 for $175. A $150 GTX550 in 2011 is a slap in the face since it's not faster than any 3 of those cards. A card with this level of performance should cost no more than $99. That's not even taking into account a bunch of $90-110 deals I see on GTX460 768mb every month.

At 1920x1200 4AA, the 550 is only 3% faster than an HD5770. I see at least 2 HD5770 cards on Newegg for $99 after rebates. Therefore, the GTX550 is $50 overpriced (like I said above).

Another way to look at it is by comparing it to the HD6870. You can find a 6870 for $180-190. 6870 is 48% faster at 1920x1200 4AA but is only 27% more expensive. HD6850 is also faster and costs the same.

GTS450/550 are both utter failures from a consumer's perspective. :thumbsdown: In fact, in the entire NV lineup right now, only the GTX460 and the 570 are worth buying imo.

I was only responding to the claim that the 550 is only a "small upgrade" compared to the 450. It clearly has a similar performance increase over the 450 that other cards have had over their predecessors.

The criticisms about the pricing are still valid, with the added critique that 5770 prices should also be at or well below $99. Here in Canada I am still seeing some go for as high as $150.
 
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Skurge

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I was only responding to the claim that the 550 is only a "small upgrade" compared to the 450. It clearly has a similar performance increase over the 450 and other cards have had over their predecessors.

The criticisms about the pricing are still valid, with the added critique that 5770 prices should also be at or well below $99. Here in Canada I am still seeing some go for as high as $150.

Yep, if you forget about the price for a moment, its just as good a feat as the other 5 series cards. Considering it came from a poor GPU in the GF106 to begin with. Its a nice upgrade over the 450, but not at that price.
 

zerocool84

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Indeed the GTX 550 Ti is faster than the 5770 - by around 7% - but then the GTX 550 Ti costs 36% more. At the other end of the spectrum is the 6850, which is 7% more expensive on average for 25% better performance. Even the GTX 460 768MB is going to gnaw at NVIDIA here so long as it’s still on the market; it’s 15% faster and yet it’s $20 cheaper.

It just doesn't look a good deal at all.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4221/nvidias-gtx-550-ti-coming-up-short-at-150/17
 

AtenRa

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I just realized that most of the reviews are using Cat 11.4 which are unreleased and no ware to be found in AMDs site, on the other hand NV has just released the 267.59 whql drivers.

Any review with Cat 11.2 ??
 

AtenRa

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The 550 is barely faster than the 5770 in TechReport's review, despite consuming more power at load, having a louder cooler and running hotter once overclocked. Considering the 6850 is at least 20%+ faster while priced at only $10-15 more, the 550 just makes no sense at all. GTX550 SLI also makes no sense since this setup actually costs more and can't convincigly outperform an HD6950 2GB unlocked into a 6970. Alternatively, the 5770 is $50 less and is only about 10% slower in performance. So if you really want a better gaming experience, you'd spend the extra $15 for the 6850 / GTX460 1GB in the first place.

have a look here

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...tx-550-ti-roundup-asus-evga-gigabyte-msi.html
 

tincart

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I just realized that most of the reviews are using Cat 11.4 which are unreleased and no ware to be found in AMDs site, on the other hand NV has just released the 267.59 whql drivers.

Any review with Cat 11.2 ??

This was probably on account of the 11.4's being released for the 6990 reviews. Most reviewers probably updated their set of Radeon benchmark data using the 11.4's and I doubt they would go back to using the older 11.2 numbers after all that work.
 

-Slacker-

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About two weeks ago I said I was fapping in glee at the concept of a 550 being slower than a gtx 460 768mb, because then I'd be like *add to cart* *add to cart* *add to cart*, but I never expected it to be not only more expensive, but $20~35 more expensive than it.

Good show, nvidia, jolly good show.
 

bryanW1995

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I'd probably go for the newer card (who doesn't like to have the new shiny toy?), but at this price segment, $20 is a big difference. I like to think of it as the "broke college student" segment. That doesn't apply to me, so someone else will have to speak up.

man, I don't know where you went to college, but for me $150 was 2 months' worth of spending $$ in college. one of those $30 AR gt 240's from last year is more a college student's speed I would think.
 
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