GTX 560 Ti Leaked Benchmarks/Info Thread

[RussianSensation]

guess this means:

6970 = 570

Unless discussing 2560x1600, HD6970 is not any faster than a GTX570. Not only that, but considering for the same price as the 6970 you can get an 800mhz GTX570, if anything HD6970 is slightly slower.

guess this means:

6950 > 560

What makes you say that? GTX460 @ 880mhz is right on the tail of an HD5870. 384 SP @ 820mhz is probably going to be very very close to the HD6950. Most likely then factory preoverclocked 900-950mhz 560s will beat the HD6950.

 

[blanketyblank]

Unless discussing 2560x1600, HD6970 is not any faster than a GTX570. Not only that, but considering for the same price as the 6970 you can get an 800mhz GTX570, if anything HD6970 is slightly slower.



What makes you say that? GTX460 @ 880mhz is right on the tail of an HD5870. 384 SP @ 820mhz is probably going to be very very close to the HD6950. Most likely then factory preoverclocked 900-950mhz 560s will beat the HD6950.

Things stop making sense when you overclock one card and not another when you're comparing them. Especially when you're comparing hypothetical factory OC cards for cards that aren't out yet. So it would be helpful if you're going to make these types of comparisons to do max or average OC for both or compare them at stock. 6950 is a rather strange card in that so many of them unlock to 6970, so if you're going to compare prices it would be better to compare 6950 vs 570 for price.

 

[AtenRa]

GTX560(384) at 825MHz will be faster than GTX470, depending of the game it could be between HD6870 and HD6950, i would say same performance as HD5870(but better in DX-11).

It will need 950/1000MHz to get near GTX570 performance but even at that speeds it could lose at DX-11 games.

I believe there will be two models, one at $199 (one SM disabled ??) and the second at $229/239(1G memory).

 

[badb0y]

I believe there will be two models, one at $199 (one SM disabled ??) and the second at $229/239(1G memory).

6950 price stop incoming. Seriously if true I could pick up another 6950 cheap :thumbsup:.

 

[SniperSlap]

I'm hoping they keep the 1GB 560 around $200-$220. I'd really like to get an nvidia card this time around.
I just built an i5 2500K. Despite leaning more towards nvidia (Linux), my last card was a Radeon 5670 and for a little $100 card, it was suprisingly powerful!

Between my loyalty and familiarity with nvidia, and AMD's aggressive position, the only real tie breaker for a guy like me will be price.

 

[AtenRa]

AMD Intros New Version of Radeon HD 6970 with $279 Price-Point.

With HD6970 1G at $279, GTX560 1G should be at $229 max and OC models close to $249.

 

[Castiel]

AMD Intros New Version of Radeon HD 6970 with $279 Price-Point.

With HD6970 1G at $279, GTX560 1G should be at $229 max and OC models close to $249.

There's a kick to the nuts of all 6870 owners

 

[tviceman]

AMD Intros New Version of Radeon HD 6970 with $279 Price-Point.

With HD6970 1G at $279, GTX560 1G should be at $229 max and OC models close to $249.

I was about to say you typed that wrong, couldn't be the 6970 at $279 until I read the link. Holy cow... a $100 price drop?

 

[Skurge]

I was about to say you typed that wrong, couldn't be the 6970 at $279 until I read the link. Holy cow... a $100 price drop?

Holy cow indeed. Hope me etailer gets these soon. I want one.

 

[tviceman]

Holy cow indeed. Hope me etailer gets these soon. I want one.

Until I see some sort of actual confirmation from AMD, I decided I'm not going to believe this. That is just too big of a price drop (without other price drops) to be realistic.

 

[evolucion8]

Damn, I should have waited hehe :\ that's some real competition in the $250+ arena.

GTX560(384) at 825MHz will be faster than GTX470, depending of the game it could be between HD6870 and HD6950, i would say same performance as HD5870(but better in DX-11).

It will need 950/1000MHz to get near GTX570 performance but even at that speeds it could lose at DX-11 games.

I believe there will be two models, one at $199 (one SM disabled ??) and the second at $229/239(1G memory).

I totally agree with you, also that unpredictable performance that was characterized by the GF104 will also be shared with the GF114. It has some superscalar stuff in the architecture which means that if the compiler doesn't do its trick, its performance will vary. That's why sometimes an HD 6970 can match the GTX 580 or match a GTX 570. The GTX 460 sometimes matched the HD 5850, and sometines couldn't even beat the HD 6850. SO I do think that the GTX 560 will match the HD 5870, sometimes loose against it, sometimes matches it, and may be in some scenarios outperform it (Tessellation performance ont he GF104 wasn't spectacular like it was on the GF100/GF110, it only matched the HD 5870 in the best case scenario)

 

[toyota]

I was never really all that impressed with the gtx460. it was a fairly weak card considering its 336sp was little to no better than a 240sp gtx285 or gtx275. for its current price and excellent scaling when overclocking though it is a decent card. if I had a gts250 or slower than I would certainly grab a a gtx460 as I believe the gtx560 will be about 75-100 bucks more.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I was never really all that impressed with the gtx460. it was a fairly weak card considering its 336sp was little to no better than a 240sp gtx285 or gtx275. for its current price and excellent scaling when overclocking though it is a decent card. if I had a gts250 or slower than I would certainly grab a a gtx460 as I believe the gtx560 will be about 75-100 bucks more.

You have high standards...

I'm pretty impressed with my 460. It does everything I need it to do AND some for $150 bucks. Heck I'm glad I didn't buy anything better. Spending another 50-10 for 470 or other card would've gained me NOTHING.

460 plays ALL the games I currently play at high settings....smoothness does nothing for me either, since 460 is already smooth.

Graphics wise and quality, any other card would've been identical (again in the games I play)

 

[toyota]

You have high standards...

I'm pretty impressed with my 460. It does everything I need it to do AND some for $150 bucks. Heck I'm glad I didn't buy anything better. Spending another 50-10 for 470 or other card would've gained me NOTHING.

460 plays ALL the games I currently play at high settings....smoothness does nothing for me either, since 460 is already smooth.

Graphics wise and quality, any other card would've been identical (again in the games I play)

high standards? did you actually read my reason for not being impressed? it has 336sp yet is little to no better than a 240sp gtx285 or gtx275. it was a very miniscule upgrade for those of us with cards like the gtx260 and 4870 from 2 years earlier.

 

[MangoX]

You have high standards...

I'm pretty impressed with my 460. It does everything I need it to do AND some for $150 bucks. Heck I'm glad I didn't buy anything better. Spending another 50-10 for 470 or other card would've gained me NOTHING.

460 plays ALL the games I currently play at high settings....smoothness does nothing for me either, since 460 is already smooth.

Graphics wise and quality, any other card would've been identical (again in the games I play)

I guess I do too

I had a GTX460 for about 2 months. I needed money at the time so I basically traded my 5870 for a 460 + 100$ cash. I only did it because of the hype that they were great overclockers. My card only made it as high as 860/2050 stable and even then it wasn't very close to my 5870 so I regretted the decision. I actually ran it at 825/2000 24/7 to lower power use and heat. I play my games at native 25x16.

 

[Castiel]

I regret not getting the sparkle 460's with the arctic cooling on them. Over at XS a owner has them in SLI at 1Ghz core. That would so rock

 

[RussianSensation]

Things stop making sense when you overclock one card and not another when you're comparing them.

imo, it makes perfect sense to compare cards that are priced similar in the market. If one AIB offers factory pre-overclocked cards like a $200 850mhz GTX460 or a $370 800mhz GTX570, they should be compared to the competition. It's not the same as taking a stock card and overclocking it or modifying it at home on your own. Unlocking an HD6950 is an option but that's not a "from the factory" comparison.

Now that AMD will launch HD6970 1GB for only $279, it's hard to imagine that GTX560 1GB will have the same launch price.

 

[MentalIlness]

Until I see some sort of actual confirmation from AMD, I decided I'm not going to believe this. That is just too big of a price drop (without other price drops) to be realistic.

Advanced Micro Devices late on Monday announced the incoming of premium-class Radeon HD 6970 graphics board with reduced amount of onboard memory at $279 price-point as well as the massively factory-overclocked versions of its Radeon HD 6870 graphics cards.
Various partners of AMD plan to release ATI Radeon HD 6970 graphics cards based on the fully-fledged Cayman graphics processing unit (GPU) with 1536 stream processors and featuring only 1GB of onboard GDDR5 memory, according to a statement of AMD. The new graphics cards will be available starting from mid-February and will cost $279 in the U.S.
At the $279 price-point the Radeon HD 6970 1GB and will pose a more affordable alternative for the company's Radeon HD 6950 (which has lower processing power, but 2GB of memory onboard and $299 price-tag) and a more expensive alternative for the Radeon HD 6870 (which has lower performance and costs from $225 to $259). While in very high resolution, with high FSAA levels and in generally demanding games the model 6970 with 1GB of memory is likely to be slower compared to the model 6950 with 2GB of memory, in loads of today's games performance of the novelty is likely to be close to that of the 6970 with 2GB of GDDR5.
The intention of AMD to release a lower-priced version of its latest and highest-performing graphics processing unit may indicate that the company is trying to boost or sustain the share on the market of graphics cards of enthusiasts, who like novelties, high speeds and adore latest architectures.
AMD also informed that PowerColor, Sapphire Technologies and XFX plan to release graphics cards based on the Radeon HD 6870 graphics processors with 940MHz - 975MHz chip clock-speed (up from 900MHz on default models) with 1GB of 4400MHz - 4600GHz memory (up from 4200MHz) onboard. Prices will range between $229 to $259 in e-tail depending on partner SKU, AMD said.

 

[Castiel]

I just want to thank amd for this because the 560 and 570 should be dropping in price.

 

[happy medium]

Advanced Micro Devices late on Monday announced the incoming of premium-class Radeon HD 6970 graphics board with reduced amount of onboard memory at $279 price-point as well as the massively factory-overclocked versions of its Radeon HD 6870 graphics cards.
Various partners of AMD plan to release ATI Radeon HD 6970 graphics cards based on the fully-fledged Cayman graphics processing unit (GPU) with 1536 stream processors and featuring only 1GB of onboard GDDR5 memory, according to a statement of AMD. The new graphics cards will be available starting from mid-February and will cost $279 in the U.S.
At the $279 price-point the Radeon HD 6970 1GB and will pose a more affordable alternative for the company's Radeon HD 6950 (which has lower processing power, but 2GB of memory onboard and $299 price-tag) and a more expensive alternative for the Radeon HD 6870 (which has lower performance and costs from $225 to $259). While in very high resolution, with high FSAA levels and in generally demanding games the model 6970 with 1GB of memory is likely to be slower compared to the model 6950 with 2GB of memory, in loads of today's games performance of the novelty is likely to be close to that of the 6970 with 2GB of GDDR5.
The intention of AMD to release a lower-priced version of its latest and highest-performing graphics processing unit may indicate that the company is trying to boost or sustain the share on the market of graphics cards of enthusiasts, who like novelties, high speeds and adore latest architectures.
AMD also informed that PowerColor, Sapphire Technologies and XFX plan to release graphics cards based on the Radeon HD 6870 graphics processors with 940MHz - 975MHz chip clock-speed (up from 900MHz on default models) with 1GB of 4400MHz - 4600GHz memory (up from 4200MHz) onboard. Prices will range between $229 to $259 in e-tail depending on partner SKU, AMD said.

I hate to say this but this whole article smells of bull and if true, the gtx560 must be a monster.
They are gonna release a overclocked 6870 1gb for $259 but release a 6970 1g for $279. OK, so what the 6950 get ELO'ed? Hahhaahahaha, i dont think so.
I beleive they meant a 6950 1gb for $279, 25$ cheaper then the $300 2gb version.

Mental, did you type that yourself?
wheres the link?

Edit: got it nvm

 

[tviceman]

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I hate to say this but this whole article smells of bull and if true, the gtx560 must be a monster.
They are gonna release a overclocked 6870 1gb for $259 but release a 6970 1g for $279. OK, so what the 6950 get ELO'ed? Hahhaahahaha, i dont think so.
I beleive they meant a 6950 1gb for $279, 25$ cheaper then the $300 2gb version.

Mental, did you type that yourself?
wheres the link?

This is exactly my rationale and why I wanted to get something more concrete and official than just 1 website with 2 or 3 other websites linking from that one. This is great if true, but at the same time it can't possibly mean good news for AMD. A $279 1 gig hd6970 card will slaughter their 6950 and 6970 2 gig card sales, and there is just no room left for a hd6950 1 gig. It will also be hard to justify any hd6870's, overclocked or not. IF this is true, I think this means several things. First, we may find out that cayman is more dependent upon ram for performance than we thought - much like how the hd4870 1 gig got a significant performance boost over the 512 meg version even in situations that didn't need more memory http://www.anandtech.com/show/2626 And second, sales of cayman must not be up to AMD's expectations.

 

[happy medium]

MSI Twin Frozr II OC GTX 560 Ti listed in Europe
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/21578-msi-twin-frozr-ii-oc-gtx-560-ti-listed-in-europe

880 on the core, tdp 180 watts.

That would mean the Evga SSC and Gigabyte SOC will be over 900 core.
It definitly looks like these cards will be great overclockers.

 

[96Firebird]

And second, sales of cayman must not be up to AMD's expectations.

I think sales of the 6970 have been low, due to the fact that most bought a 6950 and flashed to a 6970 instead of just buying a 6970. This may be a way to "save the name" so to speak, hoping to counter the (possible) poor sales figures of their flagship GPU. How it will perform is anyone's guess.

 

[Skurge]

high standards? did you actually read my reason for not being impressed? it has 336sp yet is little to no better than a 240sp gtx285 or gtx275. it was a very miniscule upgrade for those of us with cards like the gtx260 and 4870 from 2 years earlier.

I have to agree with you on this one.

 

[Skurge]

This is exactly my rationale and why I wanted to get something more concrete and official than just 1 website with 2 or 3 other websites linking from that one. This is great if true, but at the same time it can't possibly mean good news for AMD. A $279 1 gig hd6970 card will slaughter their 6950 and 6970 2 gig card sales, and there is just no room left for a hd6950 1 gig. It will also be hard to justify any hd6870's, overclocked or not. IF this is true, I think this means several things. First, we may find out that cayman is more dependent upon ram for performance than we thought - much like how the hd4870 1 gig got a significant performance boost over the 512 meg version even in situations that didn't need more memory http://www.anandtech.com/show/2626 And second, sales of cayman must not be up to AMD's expectations.

A 6950 1gb can't be $279, thats what 6950 2gb are selling for now.