GTX 580 Soft Launched ? - Out of Stock at all Major E-tailors...

[Grooveriding]

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...eforce&x=0&y=0

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/deepsearc...0&FilterCatID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tx+580&x=0&y=0

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...tx+580&x=0&y=0

http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp

http://ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=gtx+580

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...K2tVAW5tUTCADw


update: looks like newegg has a few pieces, if you need one better jump on it! At these prices though, you're better off spending $70 for for two AMD 6950s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=xfx%206950 these are 160% faster than a single 580 and quality brands that come with good warranty and service.

Looks like the initial release batch has dried up and the 580s are few and far between now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=6970&x=0&y=0

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...n=6970&x=0&y=0

http://ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=radeon+6970

Lots of 6970s. AMD may make the holiday high end sales simply because you cannot find a 580 in stock anywhere.

 

[Genx87]

Or demand is extremely high for the 580 and not for the 6970.

 

[Wreckage]

It's good to see NVIDIA selling every card they can make. I imagine the lackluster performance of the 6970 sent a lot of people straight to the 580.

Although a "paper launch" would mean they had none available at launch. But I know that was just bait in the thread title.

 

[notty22]

Imo availability is low, because of popularity. Its the fastest card, and got great reviews. And the biggest reason, its weeks before Christmas, where spending becomes crazy.
In past years, when psII, III , xbox 360's volume were low, you could sell a console for 2x what it was worth.
The gtx 580 was probably on more than a few 'wish lists'.
Evga had them for a while direct from their web site, now only the hydro version : http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp

 

[3DVagabond]

For starters I'd like to say there is no correlation between AMD stocks and nVidia stocks. Mentioning them together is only asking for this thread to be an AMD vs. nVidia pissing contest.

Onto the point of low stocks of 580's (very low stocks). There still seems to be problems getting "working" 512sp Fermi cards. It does seem little more than an attempt to influence the market with a halo product. A move done, in all likelihood, to diminish the impact of the 6970 release.

As far as it being due to demand? Give me a break! By that logic the 570 must not have a very high demand either. Seeing as how the 570 is the better value, basically a 480 with better power and thermal characteristics at $350.00, I'm going to venture a guess it sells pretty well with plenty of stock in the crippled/binned product.

 

[happy medium]

There still seems to be problems getting "working" 512sp Fermi cards.

Have a link for that fact? In not I call BS.

 

[3DVagabond]

Have a link for that fact? In not I call BS.

The link is the lack of retail availability. If you can't rationalize that though, oh well, call BS if it makes you feel better.

 

[happy medium]

The link is the lack of retail availability. If you can't rationalize that though, oh well, call BS if it makes you feel better.

So lack of retail avalability makes it a fact that there having trouble making them? It seems more like a guess on your part.
Please explain how its a fact like you wrote it.
OR
Do you want to change your statement to "It could be having manufacturing problems"?

 

[Unkle_Tar]

Or demand is extremely high for the 580 and not for the 6970.

Awesome! first time in history a high demand for a 500 plus video card.

 

[notty22]

The link is the lack of retail availability. If you can't rationalize that though, oh well, call BS if it makes you feel better.

I'm sure , in part , its a little of both. As I mentioned , certain objects at Christmas , whether its Furby or, PSII, eventually they are all sold out, and the ebayers,, craiglisters CLEAN up.
Now of course, they are sold out, and wouldn't be if Sony, Nvidia or whoever could have made enough to support demand.
TigerDirect has 3 models in stock, ships today : http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?keywords=gtx+580&searchbtn.x=0&searchbtn.y=0

 

[Keysplayr]

Groover, were you looking to buy one? Or maybe a pair to replace your 480s?
But then again, you said yours, overclocked, already match 580SLI speeds. So, why would you be looking to buy 580s?

Or, were you just checking 580 stock for the hell of it? Cause, in light of what's mentioned above, I am now trying to guess the reason you were checking 580 stock. Change your mind about buying them?

 

[Unkle_Tar]

Groover, were you looking to buy one? Or maybe a pair to replace your 480s?
But then again, you said yours, overclocked, already match 580SLI speeds. So, why would you be looking to buy 580s?






Or, were you just checking 580 stock for the hell of it? Cause, in light of what's mentioned above, I am now trying to guess the reason you were checking 580 stock. Change your mind about buying them?

Yeah i'd run it by this guy before I made a thread if I were you. :ninja:

 

[happy medium]

Groover, were you looking to buy one? Or maybe a pair to replace your 480s?
But then again, you said yours, overclocked, already match 580SLI speeds. So, why would you be looking to buy 580s?






Or, were you just checking 580 stock for the hell of it? ::shrugs:: ?? Let me know.

Ah , he has 3 gtx480's now, I guess it was just for the hell of it.

He does have a nice little disclaimer at the bottom of his post though.

Quote:
"Lots of 6970s. AMD may make the holiday high end sales simply because you cannot find a 580 in stock anywhere."

Get the picture now?

 

[MegaWorks]

Groover, were you looking to buy one? Or maybe a pair to replace your 480s?
But then again, you said yours, overclocked, already match 580SLI speeds. So, why would you be looking to buy 580s?

Or, were you just checking 580 stock for the hell of it? Cause, in light of what's mentioned above, I am now trying to guess the reason you were checking 580 stock. Change your mind about buying them?

Or maybe because the GTX580 is in fact nothing more than a paper launch and you're trying to attack the messenger and evade arguing about the main topic!

 

[3DVagabond]

So lack of retail avalability makes it a fact that there having trouble making them? It seems more like a guess on your part.
Please explain how its a fact like you wrote it.
OR
Do you want to change your statement to "It could be having manufacturing problems"?

Reading is fundamental. Especially if you are going to try and start an argument to discredit someone online.

There still seems to be problems getting "working" 512sp Fermi cards.

Not stating anything as a fact. If you have a better explanation for lack of availability, feel free to offer it. If not, go find someone else to annoy. (Or go boo Santa, or something. never mind no football in Philly today. ) I'm just trying to offer an opinion, not have an argument that can stand up in a court of law.

 

[Wreckage]

Or maybe because the GTX580 is in fact nothing more than a paper launch and you're trying to attack the messenger and evade arguing about the main topic!

There were several brands available at launch. So the "paper launch" thing is just troll bait of course. It seems they started selling out right after the 6970 launch. Which to me suggests that people waited to see what AMD had to offer, were disappointed and grabbed a 580.

 

[Grooveriding]

Groover, were you looking to buy one? Or maybe a pair to replace your 480s?
But then again, you said yours, overclocked, already match 580SLI speeds. So, why would you be looking to buy 580s?

Or, were you just checking 580 stock for the hell of it? Cause, in light of what's mentioned above, I am now trying to guess the reason you were checking 580 stock. Change your mind about buying them?

I have 3 480s now and yes they are clocked high enough to be faster than stock 580s.

Sounds like a F-14 in here and I've got the window open, good thing it's about -10C outside :thumbsup: At least it's fast.

I was just checking out ncix to see what prices were like on the 570 as I saw someone picking one up the other night when I was at my local shop. Ended up checking the 580 and saw it was OOS, so took a look elsewhere and down south.

Looks like there are none to be found unless you want to buy a crappy brand that will be a PITA to RMA.

 

[Lonyo]

I've commented on this more than once, and the "answer" seems to be "oh they are just selling really well".
Is that why one UK retailer has zero stock and has ETA of 31st December/start of Jan, and has had this since the middle of December?
They are selling so well that they have sold all the cards they haven't been receiving.

What would be nice would be to know whether NV has mentioned to anyone in any sort of official manner what sort of availability they were expecting of the GTX580, rather than having random people on this forum say "availability is fine they are just selling out because they are popular".

The fact that no one (e.g. S|A, Fud) has mentioned issues suggests that there aren't major problems with availability, but stocking issues in some places suggests otherwise, so it would be nice to have an actual 'official' sort of word on availability.

Or just attack Grooveriding and say "oh it's just selling super well" with no evidence.

And for those saying it had early availability at launch: See the HD5870.
I don't think he means a total paper launch, just one where initial quantities were limited so that NV could claim a 'hard' launch, but really it was a limited launch.

 

[Keysplayr]

Or maybe because the GTX580 is in fact nothing more than a paper launch and you're trying to attack the messenger and evade arguing about the main topic!

I asked the OP why the interest in 580 stock when he has no intention of buying any, and has repeatedly stated so in very recent threads.

GTX580 could have low stock. That is very possible. My question was why the OP was interested in the stock of something he was dead set on not buying.

Whats wrong with asking that?

 

[Wreckage]

Or just attack Grooveriding and say "oh it's just selling super well" with no evidence.

How are good sales for NVIDIA attacking Grooverding?

 

[MegaWorks]

There were several brands available at launch. So the "paper launch" thing is just troll bait of course. It seems they started selling out right after the 6970 launch. Which to me suggests that people waited to see what AMD had to offer, were disappointed and grabbed a 580.

When someone advertises a produce it should be widely available, saying that there all sold out is not a tangible evidence especially when they're only available on one or two sites.

 

[Keysplayr]

I have 3 480s now and yes they are clocked high enough to be faster than stock 580s.

Sounds like a F-14 in here and I've got the window open, good thing it's about -10C outside :thumbsup: At least it's fast.

I was just checking out ncix to see what prices were like on the 570 as I saw someone picking one up the other night when I was at my local shop. Ended up checking the 580 and saw it was OOS, so took a look elsewhere and down south.

Looks like there are none to be found unless you want to buy a crappy brand that will be a PITA to RMA.

n/m

 

[ZimZum]

Imo availability is low, because of popularity. Its the fastest card, and got great reviews. And the biggest reason, its weeks before Christmas, where spending becomes crazy.

Well Tigerdirect has 580s in stock and you can sort video cards by the biggest sellers to the worst. Currently .....

6970- 15th
5970- 20th
570 - 29th
580- 64th

The year old similarly priced 5970 is selling better than the 580. Now I would think that this lends credence to the 580 having supply issues. Rather than the 580 selling like hot cakes, which at least on Tiger Direct certainly isnt the case.

 

[MegaWorks]

I asked the OP why the interest in 580 stock when he has no intention of buying any, and has repeatedly stated so in very recent threads.

GTX580 could have low stock. That is very possible. My question was why the OP was interested in the stock of something he was dead set on not buying.

Whats wrong with asking that?

And why is happy medium so interesting in a GTX 460 when he still has a Radeon 5750, we can play this game all day Keys.

 

[Lonyo]

How are good sales for NVIDIA attacking Grooverding?

keys was basically attacking Grooveriding, asking why he had any interest in the stock levels. Asking about something you have no interest in is apparently a bad thing.
Other people were making claims with no evidence, which did not include keys.
Also selling everything != good sales.
If I make 1 and sell 1, I've sold everything, but it's not good sales. Good sales is making lots and selling everything, but no one seems to have any idea how many GTX580s there are, which is the point of this thread.

Are they OOS because they are selling well, or are they OOS because of limited availability?

I asked the question in a different thread, and happy_medium replied by saying "they are selling really well" with no actual evidence (http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30891177&postcount=13). Seeing as certain people have been attacked before for making unfounded statements, I would like to ask if anyone has any evidence for the stocks, since no one has ever provided any.