GTX 580 Soft Launched ? - Out of Stock at all Major E-tailors...

[n0x1ous]

Given they have been out of stock quite frequently is bigger news than them being in stock for a limited amount of time at the moment, furthermore the EVGA 1580 model at newegg has a limit of 2 cards per customer but I can't add more than 1 to my cart due to "Insufficient Quantities Available"

Limited supply argument looks secure and keeps getting more secure.

I can confirm this as well. It lets you add 2 but when you go the shopping cart it notifies you as Attic says above.

I think the thread title should be changed to limited quantity at major e-tailers though.

 

[Aristotelian]

When I purchased my 2x580's EVGAs at Fry's on Saturday it showed that many other stores had them within 50 miles. Has anyone tried running a local check at Fry's.com? I show 6 stores with them in a 75 mile radius and that's EVGA.

http://www.frys.com/search?search_ty...price=&x=0&y=0

EVGA: Out of Stock
Asus: Back Order

The thread title is a question, by the way. "GTX580 Soft Launched?" => Meant to promote discussion, research, conclusion on my view.

Also, I tried '90210' as the zip code. Item available in 2 out of 8 locations.

 

[n0x1ous]

http://www.frys.com/search?search_ty...price=&x=0&y=0

EVGA: Out of Stock
Asus: Back Order

The thread title is a question, by the way. "GTX580 Soft Launched?" => Meant to promote discussion, research, conclusion on my view.

That part is a question, but the second part saying out of stock is a statement. I agree with you on the first part meaning to promote discussion, but the second part is misleading based on what we know at this point

 

[bryanW1995]

Not very mature dude. Rethink you're approach to this "issue". Someone might take you seriously.

keys, admittedly I haven't read the entire thread, but I don't see how his post can be taken as "immature".

honestly I don't even see what everyone is arguing about. the following info is available to us:


@ all:
1. gtx 580 is sold out at some vendors who typically have stock of high end video cards
2. a few vendors still have some stock of gtx 580

can we all agree on that? because if we can then we can all also agree that gtx 580 is currently limited availability. is it the only card that is currently limited availability? I don't know, but I know that 5970 has basically been that way since its release. Guys, it isn't exactly news when the highest of the high is hard but not impossible to get. If I wanted a gtx 580 would I want evga or perhaps galaxy? sure, but I'd also be happy with asus/gb. if none of those were out there and I was really anxious would I pay $50 over msrp to get a sparkle or some absolute no-name brand? If I was desperate enough I would, if not I would look at other options just like potential 5970 buyers have for the past year +. I think this is a non-issue as long as gtx 580 is still available to a reasonably determined person AND 6990 isn't available at all. Once 6990 comes out we can argue over its availability and the red/green team can just recycle their arguments from the opposite viewpoint. just remember any good one-liners that you see this time and you can use them against your enemy(s) later!

 

[stupidhatmatt]

http://www.frys.com/search?search_ty...price=&x=0&y=0

EVGA: Out of Stock
Asus: Back Order

The thread title is a question, by the way. "GTX580 Soft Launched?" => Meant to promote discussion, research, conclusion on my view.

Also, I tried '90210' as the zip code. Item available in 2 out of 8 locations.

Just trying to help people with ideas of new places to find them... it seems to be a popular opinion that they are "impossible" to find in "good" brand names.

 

[Seero]

You guys...The definition of paper launch is there are no, or next to no availability of the launched product. Clearly, 580 was available, but not anymore due to supply < demand, but that isn't the mean it is a paper launch. There was stock available but quickly become out of stock, that means people are buying the product.

If you are a AMD fans, sorry, but the reality is a)69xx is seating at the shelf, b)580 is one sick card, c)they are going really fast, and d)possibly going to raise price just like 5870 did to ease demand.

If you are simply a loyal AMD user, QQ to AMD and demand better cards from them as 580 clearly won the round. Review shows that, and the market shows that.

If you are actually neutral but want a 580, you will need to wait a bit as Nvidia fans were dying for it since the release of 5870. Some believed it will beat 6970 and bite the bullet and brought the card before the release of 6970, and therefore have 580. Those who waited for 6970 release (majority of people), some were faster in purchasing than others.

Again, if you simply don't like Nvidia cards, then there are prenty of AMD cards in stock. Feel free to spend your money, it is Christmas.

 

[stupidhatmatt]

Even though I own 580's I can certainly say that 2x6970's are a very attractive option for people running at higher resolutions. In fact, the 6970's beat 2x580's in certain games which is a testament to their overall value. I could've gone either way and been completely happy. I also don't agree with the statement that "69xx is sitting at the shelf". I am certain that we'll see the same type of limited quantities available that we're seeing with the 580's in the coming weeks.

 

[WelshBloke]

You guys...The definition of paper launch is there are no, or next to no availability of the launched product. Clearly, 580 was available, but not anymore due to supply < demand, but that isn't the mean it is a paper launch. There was stock available but quickly become out of stock, that means people are buying the product.

If you are a AMD fans, sorry, but the reality is a)69xx is seating at the shelf, b)580 is one sick card, c)they are going really fast, and d)possibly going to raise price just like 5870 did to ease demand.

If you are simply a loyal AMD user, QQ to AMD and demand better cards from them as 580 clearly won the round. Review shows that, and the market shows that.

If you are actually neutral but want a 580, you will need to wait a bit as Nvidia fans were dying for it since the release of 5870. Some believed it will beat 6970 and bite the bullet and brought the card before the release of 6970, and therefore have 580. Those who waited for 6970 release (majority of people), some were faster in purchasing than others.

Again, if you simply don't like Nvidia cards, then there are prenty of AMD cards in stock. Feel free to spend your money, it is Christmas.

I don't think anyone suggested it was a paper launch?

Unless you're suggesting that yourself and then arguing against it?

 

[Aristotelian]

You guys...The definition of paper launch is there are no, or next to no availability of the launched product. Clearly, 580 was available, but not anymore due to supply < demand, but that isn't the mean it is a paper launch. There was stock available but quickly become out of stock, that means people are buying the product.

If you are a AMD fans, sorry, but the reality is a)69xx is seating at the shelf, b)580 is one sick card, c)they are going really fast, and d)possibly going to raise price just like 5870 did to ease demand.

If you are simply a loyal AMD user, QQ to AMD and demand better cards from them as 580 clearly won the round. Review shows that, and the market shows that.

If you are actually neutral but want a 580, you will need to wait a bit as Nvidia fans were dying for it since the release of 5870. Some believed it will beat 6970 and bite the bullet and brought the card before the release of 6970, and therefore have 580. Those who waited for 6970 release (majority of people), some were faster in purchasing than others.

Again, if you simply don't like Nvidia cards, then there are prenty of AMD cards in stock. Feel free to spend your money, it is Christmas.

Who is 'QQ'ing? QQ is a Mandarin friendly chat program. Furthermore, what was mentioned was a 'soft launch'. Since when does a 'soft launch' entail a 'paper launch'? Nobody in his/her right mind would call this a paper launch because, hello, cards have been available. The point of the soft launch suggestion has been that it is tough for some people at some times to get the cards. Nothing in your post addressed that. Good job making it an AMD vs Nvidia issue.

 

[esquared]

OK people. This thread has degenerated into innuendo, name calling, supposition and flat out BS.

Next member who goes off topic in this thread will be the one responsible to me or another mod locking it.

What the hell is wrong with you people??? You're acting like children.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[Axon]

Just lock it. At this point, all people are doing is arguing over what constitutes a soft launch and what doesn't.

 

[aigomorla]

Or demand is extremely high for the 580 and not for the 6970.

no its not demand.

trust me ive been looking at inventory stock for 3 weeks now.
They just dont come in stock...

And im not talking about the lower quality vendors like PNY, Zotac and Galaxy.
(they dont allow removal of stock heat sink, so those vendors are out the door for me.)

You wont find an eVGA or ASUS card in stock period.

Nvidia is pissing me off lately...

Just lock it. At this point, all people are doing is arguing over what constitutes a soft launch and what doesn't.

lol... but i have to agree with people in this thread.

Nvidia totally paper launched this... which is worrying me.

One needs to ask the question why? the 480's never had this problem of availability.

What im worried about is a PCB revision, which will invalidate my gpu block.


LOL... i had a koolance block specially sent to me, so i could do a review on this forum.
Koolance was awesome to pull though on the block @ launch... nvidia on the other hand.. major major fail.

There was stock available but quickly become out of stock, that means people are buying the product.

uhh..

Ok... card was ordered b4 black friday back in thanksgiving.
I ordered the CoD version, but later got a email saying it was all out.
So then i ordered the SC version from eVGA.

Went on eVGA's website... camped it every day, to see if they would have ANY cards in stock.

No cards... nada.. zip.. the only thing they would have is the hydro version which would pop out once in a while like some special drop from a monster in RPG.

Tell someone who hasnt been waiting for 3 weeks that the cards werent paper launched.
Because i and Many others... have been waiting well over 3 weeks.

 

[Aristotelian]

no its not demand.

trust me ive been looking at inventory stock for 3 weeks now.
They just dont come in stock...

And im not talking about the lower quality vendors like PNY, Zotac and Galaxy.
(they dont allow removal of stock heat sink, so those vendors are out the door for me.)

You wont find an eVGA or ASUS card in stock period.

Nvidia is pissing me off lately...



lol... but i have to agree with people in this thread.

Nvidia totally paper launched this... which is worrying me.

One needs to ask the question why? the 480's never had this problem of availability.

What im worried about is a PCB revision, which will invalidate my gpu block.


LOL... i had a koolance block specially sent to me, so i could do a review on this forum.
Koolance was awesome to pull though on the block @ launch... nvidia on the other hand.. major major fail.

Yeah, I've only been looking for a week or so. Weren't you going tri-sli 580s? Think I saw that in a 990X post of yours a while ago.

 

[Wreckage]

@ all:
1. gtx 580 is sold out at some vendors who typically have stock of high end video cards
2. a few vendors still have some stock of gtx 580

can we all agree on that? because if we can then we can all also agree that gtx 580 is currently limited availability. is it the only card that is currently limited availability? I don't know, but I know that 5970 has basically been that way since its release.

I can agree with all of that. I think the problem is that the thread title is misleading at best and pure flamebait at worst. It's not out of stock at "all" stores and since the launch happened a month and a half ago it's a little late to be calling it a soft launch now.

The only evidence presented so far was an article from November 9th which said a "few weeks". Which would make that old and expired information.

To me and others it would seem that stock started drying up right after the 6970 launch. It's not uncommon for people to wait on a new launch to buy a card. Since the 6970 was a pretty big disappointment or at the very least not up there with the 580, a lot of people started buying 580's. Newegg seems to be getting new stock every day and it's selling out just as fast.

I would think people would be happy that a high end card is selling this well. But some people are so filled with hate and anger that I don't think anything will ever make them happy.

 

[OCGuy]

You wont find an eVGA or ASUS card in stock period.

Huh? There have been multiple EVGAs in stock (down to one now) @ Newegg since yesterday, and usually about every other day they get a shipment.

Anyone who wants a 580 can get one shipped within 24 hours of truly looking. That sounds like the pricing is perfect for the demand. If they start going out of stock completely, then they will have to raise prices.

 

[tannat]

The only evidence presented so far was an article from November 9th which said a "few weeks". Which would make that old and expired information.

I would think people would be happy that a high end card is selling this well. But some people are so filled with hate and anger that I don't think anything will ever make them happy.

You call for evidence and then...

Just curious, Do you have any idea at all how many cards have been sold worldwide? 10000? 5000? 1000?

Or are you only pulling statements out of a hat to be able to fit that petty generalization into a post?

Wow.

 

[Wreckage]

Here's an evga in stock
http://www.ncixus.com/products/57646...-1580-TR/eVGA/

 

[aigomorla]

Yeah, I've only been looking for a week or so. Weren't you going tri-sli 580s? Think I saw that in a 990X post of yours a while ago.

yea i was gonna after tri sli ... was suposed to have my second card by xmas.. third after new years... but all that is moot now. :whiste:

Huh? There have been multiple EVGAs in stock (down to one now) @ Newegg since yesterday, and usually about every other day they get a shipment.

every other day eh?

So poping one out every day is considered a real launch?

Being serious here... u know me... i had my cards ordered as a direct ship from eVGA... if newegg got there cards yesterday, then mine should come from eVGA directly today.

But i didnt get any confirmation from the vendor my cards were shipped at all.

The ones u seeing are back stock... meaning they pop it once in a while... so people keep coming back on site to look for them.

OC i was camping eVGA's direct site every day for 3 weeks... now im just tired of it.

Here's an evga in stock
http://www.ncixus.com/products/57646...-1580-TR/eVGA/

Availability:
Back Order
This product is available but currently we do not have stock. Order it today and we will ship when it's available.

 

[thilanliyan]

Lonyo, what in the heck are you talking about. Almost need a Rune Stone to decipher your meanings here.

Ehm, no it's not. Did you read Lonyo's other posts? Where he has linked some articles?

Not very mature dude. Rethink you're approach to this "issue". Someone might take you seriously.

Everyone but people defending/angry about the OP seems to have taken Lonyo seriously since he has been the only one so far to have actually linked to any articles stating one way or another. Are there any articles with an nV representative saying we have loads of 580 stock? A couple of cards going continuously in and out of stock points to low (not empty) stock, especially for a high end card IMO. Even at one of the biggest online/B&M stores in Alberta, the GTX580 is mostly OOS and a couple of cards with limited availability. While the 570 is in stock. I don't know about you but I figured the 570 would be a better seller than the 580 and so the 570 should be out of stock rather than the 580.

 

[Wreckage]

Availability:
Back Order
This product is available but currently we do not have stock. Order it today and we will ship when it's available.

Wow that was quick :hmm:

http://www.ncixus.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=gtx+580

Seems they don't update their search very well.

 

[Wreckage]

Ehm, no it's not. Did you read Lonyo's other posts? Where he has linked some articles?

You mean the one article from November 9th that said a few weeks.

I think December 20th is more than a few weeks from November 9th. It's almost a few months.

 

[solofly]

And im not talking about the lower quality vendors like PNY, Zotac and Galaxy.

I heard Zotac does allow...

 

[Rubycon]

Went on eVGA's website... camped it every day, to see if they would have ANY cards in stock.

No cards... nada.. zip.. the only thing they would have is the hydro version which would pop out once in a while like some special drop from a monster in RPG.

Tell someone who hasnt been waiting for 3 weeks that the cards werent paper launched.
Because i and Many others... have been waiting well over 3 weeks.

You're doing it wrong.
You don't have to camp out just use the site I linked to about a billion posts earlier in this thread!

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx580/

You can see by the history they come and go. Set up an alert and you will get an email when a site reports them in stock. Hurry up and order! This was the same thing that happened last May with 480s.

 

[OCGuy]

Why does it have to be direct from EVGA? Why does it have to be from them at all?

I think we are moving the goalposts here a little. Again, there has not been a day that has gone by (expect on weekends, when they most likely dont get new shipments) that I could not find a 580 to purchase in the normal price range.

And yes Aigo, getting a new shipment from the AIB every other day or so is considered fine in by book.

Limited availability? Sure. Paper launch or "nearly unavailable halo product" as some have said in this thread? Laughable, and mostly sour grapes over 6XXX.

 

[Daedalus685]

You guys...The definition of paper launch is there are no, or next to no availability of the launched product. Clearly, 580 was available, but not anymore due to supply < demand, but that isn't the mean it is a paper launch. There was stock available but quickly become out of stock, that means people are buying the product.

If you are a AMD fans, sorry, but the reality is a)69xx is seating at the shelf, b)580 is one sick card, c)they are going really fast, and d)possibly going to raise price just like 5870 did to ease demand.

If you are simply a loyal AMD user, QQ to AMD and demand better cards from them as 580 clearly won the round. Review shows that, and the market shows that.

If you are actually neutral but want a 580, you will need to wait a bit as Nvidia fans were dying for it since the release of 5870. Some believed it will beat 6970 and bite the bullet and brought the card before the release of 6970, and therefore have 580. Those who waited for 6970 release (majority of people), some were faster in purchasing than others.

Again, if you simply don't like Nvidia cards, then there are prenty of AMD cards in stock. Feel free to spend your money, it is Christmas.

The fact that I cannot buy item A does not infer any information beyond supply < demand. It is no way can lead one to a rational idea of whether it is because demand is exceptional or supply is oddly low.

When one fan claims it is because there aren't many cards, while another claims they sell like hot cakes both are equally wrong as there is no way to infer either of those poles.

As for the rest, I am happy with my 6970 at the price I payed just as I am happy with the 8800gt I bought instead of the 8800ultra. Not all cards below the best halo are "bad"... come now.

We will soon have a dual GPU card for everyone to complain doesn't count to keep us busy in the who won what round argument. Many are likely upset that AMD actually stuck with their sweet spot strategy instead of making a monster chip 6970.. but can anyone really be upset that they did exactly what they said they would always do? Compete in the halo space with a well designed dual GPU card that for many valid reasons lots of people will either love or hate. The 6970 is actually a larger chip that I thought they'd ever end up making again (until 40nm got dragged out that is) and it is not AMDs fault that folks imagination got the better of them with "30% better than the 580 OMG Nvidia is doomed". In fact, I'd bet you good money that the 7970 (assuming it is single GPU) will not be as fast as a gtx680 and it will be up to the dual 7900 to compete on the halo again.