GTX 580 Soft Launched ? - Out of Stock at all Major E-tailors...

[Skurge]

* 6950 Crossfire is $80 less than a single GTX580....while destroying it.

Don't you mean $80 more? or did GTX580 prices go up by $140?

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes. The 460 1370 model simply isn't eligible for a step up. I have no idea why.

Just a guess, but it's probably too high volume of a piece. I'm sure they work the averages of how many people take advantage of the upgrade program. The volume of a piece like that would possibly make the cost prohibitive.

...and in the spirit of this thread, It's because they don't have enough of a supply of the gtx-580 to be able to do it.

 

[Grooveriding]

Just a guess, but it's probably too high volume of a piece. I'm sure they work the averages of how many people take advantage of the upgrade program. The volume of a piece like that would possibly make the cost prohibitive.

...and in the spirit of this thread, It's because they don't have enough of a supply of the gtx-580 to be able to do it.

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=673504&mpage=15

Sure looks that way by the posts in the 580 step-up thread over at evga. 2000 people in the list, this week the list moved through only 3 people. :ninja:

Tight stock indeed. :|

 

[DaveSimmons]

It's a few days before Christmas. People are buying cards for themselves and their families.

Land's End was sold out of their standard denim jeans this weekend when I went to use a $25 off $75 coupon. Were their jeans soft-launched too?

Sure looks that way by the posts in the 580 step-up thread over at evga. 2000 people in the list, this week the list moved through only 3 people.

Or stock is going out to full-price new sales first, with the step-up customers needing to wait until after the xmas rush.

Maybe it is a soft launch, I'd just like to see better evidence.

 

[badb0y]

It's a few days before Christmas. People are buying cards for themselves and their families.

Land's End was sold out of their standard denim jeans this weekend when I went to use a $25 off $75 coupon. Were their jeans soft-launched too?



Or stock is going out to full-price new sales first, with the step-up customers needing to wait until after the xmas rush.

Maybe it is a soft launch, I'd just like to see better evidence.

Oh hai

Amazing that no one has offered any kind of real evidence other than the anecdotal or just made up statements.

http://review.techworld.com/video-g...idia-geforce-gtx-580-review/?view=review&pn=6


http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/11/20/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-overclocking/2


Other forums have been discussing it as well.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1503865&postcount=7710
http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3556&page=69
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=74378&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

And you can compare things like this:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18205501
to the other posts in the HD6900 thread showing how many cards there were. Not so many GTX580s, certainly at launch (although it is a more expensive card).


OR
People could just claim they are selling like hotcakes and there are no supply issues without any evidence to back their statements up.

 

[DaveSimmons]

^ that'll learn me to only read 4 out of 8 pages

Still, "nVidia tells us that the supply of GTX 580 cards will be small for the first few weeks, so prices may temporarily go a bit higher than RRP." was from the first week of November, so we only know that it was a soft launch 5+ weeks ago.

That does make the answer a definitive "yes" for early November though.

 

[MentalIlness]

Because NVIDIA has the fastest single GPU and they don't like that.

Yes, I mean $80 more. Not less.

And this post here.....

Don't you mean Nvidia has the fastest single PCB graphics card ? Oh...they don't have that either. That would be the 5970.

Or do you mean the fastest one card setup ? Because that belongs to the 5970 as well. And at resolutions "higher" than 1920....the 6970 competes almost equally.

I also seem to remember, You touting the single PCB GTX295 "dual gpu" card as the fastest at that time. So why not the 5970 ?

So it can work in Nvidia's favor. But sure as heck not in AMD's favor.

Just accept facts where facts are given.

I am glad there is an ignore button. Because you are now on it. Other posters here on the other hand, they gladly admit when they are "wrong".

 

[Aristotelian]

^^

I agree with the spirit of your post, but there is something positive to be said about the fastest single gpu card available (the GTX580), at least for people like me who have never and will never go SLI/Crossfire while the cons in those setups are still noticeable.

 

[Skurge]

^^

I agree with the spirit of your post, but there is something positive to be said about the fastest single gpu card available (the GTX580), at least for people like me who have never and will never go SLI/Crossfire while the cons in those setups are still noticeable.

I don't think he has anything against the 580m he even considering it. Just has an issue with someone's post.

 

[Aristotelian]

I don't think he has anything against the 580m he even considering it. Just has an issue with someone's post.

He's not arguing against 'like' or 'dislike', he's arguing about performance facts. One performance fact is that Nvidia has the fastest single gpu graphics card available. Another is that the fastest card available is the 5970. Note that I said that I agreed with his post, I just supplemented it with the 580 speed tidbit.

The post he's referring to is an example of the sort of misdirection I referred to earlier. Talk about availability? The conversation shifts into who has the faster card, and so on. Eh.

 

[OCGuy]

So does this mean they aren't faster than AMD's flagship card?

I still can't remember a day where I haven't been able to find one online or in a local B&M.

Show the court on this doll where nV touched you OP.


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[Stoneburner]

Show the court on this doll where nV touched you OP.

So much for rules.


<---- gets popcorn and pulls up a chair.

 

[stupidhatmatt]

well I personally have 2x580's in SLI and I couldn't be happier. I run at 2560x1440 and "needed" the extra push because I prefer to have 50-60FPS solid when I play. I do, however, understand that there are a few drawbacks to running multi GPU setups like micro stutter and lower minimum framerates occasionly. So, when you factor in that 2x6950's are faster than 1x580 you also have to factor in the drawbacks of a multi gpu setup. I really had no option in my opinion because I'm not aware of a single GPU setup that will run Civ 5, Crysis, BFBC2, etc and 2560x1440 with solid 60FPS with max settings. I considered the 6970's but felt that my best option was to go with the fastest single GPU setup in SLI in case I had to disable SLI when certain games didn't optimize it.

EDIT: by the way, I picked up my 580's at Fry's for $475 a piece on Saturday so they are out there...

 

[MentalIlness]

Exactly. I am not arguing likes and dislikes of either company.

But here is "me and gpu's" in a nutshell

I have zero use for CUDA/PHYSX
I have zero use for Eyefinity
I have zero use for 3D and Tess
I like Nvidia's Transparency a little better than AMD's MLAA

When I purchase a GPU...I buy for one reason and one reason only. GAMES. And that is it.

 

[OCGuy]

So much for rules.


<---- gets popcorn and pulls up a chair.

Might want to read the update sticky


"Occasional personal comments that can be categorized as mild banter and tongue-in-cheek back-and-forth are to be expected in VC&G."


So far today, on newegg alone, I could have purchased a PNY, Galaxy, Palit, and EVGA GTX580.

The definition of paper launch escapes many of the people here I gather...

Edit: Make that 3 different models of the EVGA available today.


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[solofly]

Don't you mean Nvidia has the fastest single PCB graphics card ? Oh...they don't have that either. That would be the 5970.

What they have is superior drivers and that alone is everything...

I'll gladly pay extra for that...

 

[Lonyo]

Might want to read the update sticky


"Occasional personal comments that can be categorized as mild banter and tongue-in-cheek back-and-forth are to be expected in VC&G."


So far today, on newegg alone, I could have purchased a PNY, Galaxy, Palit, and EVGA GTX580.

The definition of paper launch escapes many of the people here I gather...

Repeated attempts to derail or not bother discussing the (amended) original post are to be expected as well, based on this thread.

 

[Gloomy]

What they have is superior drivers and that alone is everything...

I'll gladly pay extra for that...

When was the last time you used AMD drivers? If you are speaking without recent experience, shut up please. :wub:

 

[MentalIlness]

Drivers I cannot comment on, since I have not used a ATI/AMD card in the last 3 years.

Sure, the 580 is a great card. I am not and will not dispute that. But, if you want to pay a $130 premium for better drivers. Then by all means do it.

 

[nitromullet]

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=673504&mpage=15

Sure looks that way by the posts in the 580 step-up thread over at evga. 2000 people in the list, this week the list moved through only 3 people. :ninja:

Tight stock indeed. :|

I've been in the queue since launch day. It didn't move at all for the first week except for people dropping out, but was moving along at about 20-30 places per week after that. I started out at 170 something, and now I'm at 68.

 

[sandorski]

Drivers I cannot comment on, since I have not used a ATI/AMD card in the last 3 years.

Sure, the 580 is a great card. I am not and will not dispute that. But, if you want to pay a $130 premium for better drivers. Then by all means do it.

Nvidia Drivers haven't destroyed Hardware in over 6 months. Clearly they are superior. :biggrin:

 

[OCGuy]

Premise of OP: GTX580 is rare and your "best bet to find one is ebay for $700"

Several people post proof that premise is indeed false. Newegg gets new shipments every day in the 499-529 range. You can find one pretty easily for that price if you want, from several different AIB partners.

OP premise has been proven false, thread should be locked.

 

[SHAQ]

Why is it all of a sudden a soft launch when they have been available for weeks? It's less than a week before Xmas and it should be expected. I looked several times since it launched and it was always available.

 

[MentalIlness]

When was the last time you used AMD drivers? If you are speaking without recent experience, shut up please. :wub:

 

[MentalIlness]

So much for rules.


<---- gets popcorn and pulls up a chair.