GTX 660Ti Reviews

[VulgarDisplay]

So like AMDs review guide?

I'm sure there has been a case where AMD said to use overclocked cards in their reviews, but I can't remember it personally.

Both sides dictate how the reviews go, I didn't deny that.

No point in trying to paint me as an AMD fanboy because I've owned 4 more nvidia cards than I have AMD. I go where the price/performance is.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Quick, defend Nvidia honor! :thumbup:

Oh I forgot, its only nVidia that can do wrong. Everything AMD does is the best for all of us. My mistake.D:

 

[ShintaiDK]

I'm sure there has been a case where AMD said to use overclocked cards in their reviews, but I can't remember it personally.

Both sides dictate how the reviews go, I didn't deny that.

No point in trying to paint me as an AMD fanboy because I've owned 4 more nvidia cards than I have AMD. I go where the price/performance is.

Im not painting you in any colour. I´m just saying both does it.

 

[AnandThenMan]

So like AMDs review guide?

Probably. Either way these reviewers need to grow some balls and toss the review guides in the trash.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Probably. Either way these reviewers need to grow some balls and toss the review guides in the trash.

Indeed, but that wont happen. Same with the selection of games, its fueled 2 sided.

No need to get defensive.

You should comment the other guy instead. Unless you applaud that behaviour.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Removed, comment was unnecessary.

 

[antef]

What kind of discounts are typically seen around Black Friday? Maybe I should wait till then and just buy the best card I can at $250.

 

[Zanovar]

Probably. Either way these reviewers need to grow some balls and toss the review guides in the trash.

haha this.

 

[Borealis7]

Benching this card at anything above 1080p+4AA+16AF is a fail in my opinion. it has a bloody 192bit bus (on a good day!), and should go in mainstream builds. aside from the price, i think this card does what it's supposed to do almost flawlessly: it's 300$ performance of last year's 500$.
but considering whats already out there from AMD, i think this card is a bit overpriced.
I hope to catch it "after the bend" on the 2nd hand market next year.

 

[toyota]

um its 300 bucks for what was 500 bucks almost 2 years ago. plus it loses to the 580 in some cases. and you cant have it both ways as MOST people certainly hammered the gtx580 for being a poor value compared to the competition. so sorry but 300 bucks for this level of performance in Aug 2012 is just not the least bit impressive to me.

 

[The_Golden_Man]

If buying cards today for 2560x1600 or 2560x1440 gaming I would probably consider 2x MSI HD 7950 TwinFrozr Xfire.

I have 2x ASUS GTX 670 Direct CUII 'non top' in SLI. However, I game at 1920x1200. I'm sure they would be just fine in 1440 or 1600dpi but I can't help thinking those 7950's with 3GB VRAM and for a nice price would probably be a real good bang for the buck. As long as microstuttering and other Xfire problems have been sorted out.

GTX 660Ti with it's current pricing is a failure in my opinion.

What's all this with it having 1.5GB VRAM? It says 2GB. Is it because it can only utilize 1.5GB since it is 192Bit mem bus?

 

[toyota]

it can utilize all 2gb of the vram just fine.

 

[Crap Daddy]

GTX 660Ti with it's current pricing is a failure in my opinion.

What's all this with it having 1.5GB VRAM? It says 2GB. Is it because it can only utilize 1.5GB since it is 192Bit mem bus?

Pricing is linked to the market.

First performance compared (1920x1080 4xAA since this is the target resolution for a mid-range card):

7870 7950 660Ti 670
91,3% 101,5% 100% 115,6%

as seen here, average compiled from 12 reviews:

http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/lau...nch-analyse-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-seite-2

Pricing of AMD cards after the last cuts seen here:

http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...price-cuts-inbound-7970ge-available-next-week

So what's the problem with a launch price of 300$ and a bundled 60$ AAA game with every card?

And it can use 2GB.

 

[notty22]

Saw this post from a Galaxy rep over at Hocp. Figure some would like it.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039048705&postcount=154

Tech question if you don't mind--did Galaxy divvy up the extra memory in such a way as to balance out the memory channels (such as, 1 GB per each of the three 64-bit channels)? Or would that require changes to the hidden memory controller logic that only nVidia has access to?

Good question. Here's the response from our R&D team:

"We use different memory configs on 2GB and 3GB.

For the 3GB, we used 12pcs of 128*16 DDR5 memory to form a 3GB, 192-bit config.

For the 2GB, in order to form a 2GB 192-bit config, the memory controller is running in mixed mode. We used 4pcs of 64*32 and 4pcs of 128*16 DDR5 memory.

For the 3GB version, we actually use the same PCB as the GTX 670/680 GC 4GB but with 12pcs instead of 16pcs 128*16 DDR5 memory.
The 2GB version, however, needed a new PCB design in order to support mixed mode memory operation."

 

[cmdrdredd]

That's interesting on the memory config.

I'll wait until these are in the hands of users and there are posts on forums. I find it hard to trust many of the review sites out there with a couple small exceptions.

 

[ocre]

um its 300 bucks for what was 500 bucks almost 2 years ago. plus it loses to the 580 in some cases. and you cant have it both ways as MOST people certainly hammered the gtx580 for being a poor value compared to the competition. so sorry but 300 bucks for this level of performance in Aug 2012 is just not the least bit impressive to me.

i dont really understand your point, or most of the negative post here. What could you get before the 660ti came out? the 7870 offered near 580 performance for about 300$. the 660ti cost about the same as the 7870 and performs slightly faster than the 580. So i dont get why so many people are putting so much energy putting this card down.

I can say that i probably would save up a little more and buy the 7950 if i were buying today. That would be me, And the value only comes from overclocking the 7950. without overclocking its just as "badly" priced as the 660ti. Because they all fall into a similar price/performance ratio:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Jet_Stream/30.html

a picture is worth a thousand words. The 660ti is not badly priced. Its actually got a decent price performance compared to all other cards out now. If your underwhelmed by it then your must be extremely disappointed in all the 28nm options today. The 660ti has the top price/performance ratio of all the 28nm cards out. Its not by much, i give you that. But acting like its soo terrible really dont add up.

Its no surprise that their are hundreds of post of dissatisfaction here. Pretty much the same people who were hating on it before launch continue to say the same thing over and over and over. which is, "BUY AMD INSTEAD"

This is all great and all, but the 660ti isnt a terrible card, and its not terribly priced. For the market its going after, it offers a decent price/performance ratio. If your into overclocking, buy an AMD 7950. We have went over this a million times. Russian, wont mind telling you this over and over and over and over. Even if your not interested in buying any card at all. and this is where i stand. I just will skip this gen completely. Nothing is appealing enough for me right now.

So if your gonna put down the 660ti, put down every other 28nm option. The 660ti out of the box has the top level bang for your buck this generation. This is why reviews liked it. 99% of their readers arent gonna overclock to the moon. they just are not. The 660ti will be mostly sold to the everyday joe and for them its not a bad value.

If your an enthusiast, buy an enthusiast class card. the 660ti is not a bad option for the intended market. Not even close.

 

[cmdrdredd]

ocre, the 7970 was $330 not long ago for the Visiontek card. The 7950 was $305 just recently, that makes a $300 660ti a bad buy.

 

[Zanovar]

Hmm,do you feel better after that?,i dont think people are hating on this card its the price of the fucking thing.660 ti or a 7950 which would you choose?(these are uk price btw,not sure how they are everywhere else).

 

[RussianSensation]

ocre, the 7970 was $330 not long ago for the Visiontek card. The 7950 was $305 just recently, that makes a $300 660ti a bad buy.

Exactly. It's not that 660Ti is a bad card per say, just we have seen sales on 7970 and 670s already and 7950 offers viable overclocking headroom. It won't matter to the average consumer looking to spend $300 and enjoying the BL2 bundle, but for barely more $, there are 3 better cards not far away imo if we look at the performance potential they bring.

Russian, wont mind telling you this over and over and over and over.

Not much different then not long ago when I recommended GTX460 over and over and over because it was a monster overclocker and often came close to the 5870, if not outright beat it in some games. When 2 cards are similarly priced (6850/460, 660Ti/7950), I'll always recommended the card with more VRAM/higher overclocking headroom unless the gamer looking to buy says he doesn't want to overclock, some games he/she is interested play faster on a specific card, there are specific brand features or power consumption factors that are more important than outright performance. Until pricing or something changes, I'll continue to recommend 7950 over 660Ti since it's just like the GTX460 situation. The main competitor to the 660Ti is the 7950. So if someone is not interested in the 7950 at all, why would they ask for a recommendation in the first place?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

$300= thumbsdown
$275= interesting..
$250= great deal

I think Nvidia is trying to see if the semi enthusiast is willing to shell out $300 instead of the usual $200-$250 sweet spot. For me I'm not interested in spending more than $200/250 anymore.

 

[Ajay]

I personally am not buying till Christmas, unless I get a much better job. By then the 660Ti will probably be on sale for~$250. I'll be an excellent card then at that price. Part of me wishes that the GTX 580's would drop to $ 300 - because it a great card for F@H.

 

[RussianSensation]

I personally am not buying till Christmas, unless I get a much better job. By then the 660Ti will probably be on sale for~$250. I'll be an excellent card then at that price. Part of me wishes that the GTX 580's would drop to $ 300 - because it a great card for F@H.

Isn't the 660Ti still good for F@H? Seems to do well against the 570. Can't see how a 580 would be much faster?

 

[cmdrdredd]

$300= thumbsdown
$275= interesting..
$250= great deal

I think Nvidia is trying to see if the semi enthusiast is willing to shell out $300 instead of the usual $200-$250 sweet spot. For me I'm not interested in spending more than $200/250 anymore.

There's nothing wrong with that either. If that's your price point that's you're choice.

 

[Smoblikat]

$300= thumbsdown
$275= interesting..
$250= great deal

I think Nvidia is trying to see if the semi enthusiast is willing to shell out $300 instead of the usual $200-$250 sweet spot. For me I'm not interested in spending more than $200/250 anymore.

My turn
300$ = Middle Finger up
275$ = Thumbs doan
250$ = Getting there
225$ = There

 

[toyota]

My turn
300$ = Middle Finger up
275$ = Thumbs doan
250$ = Getting there
225$ = There

$250 is very fair IMO and that is where the gtx560 ti launched. a gtx660 ti is about a 50% upgrade over the gtx560 ti too which is pretty good.