GTX 660Ti Reviews

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AnandThenMan

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How come no one is talking about how late this card is to the party? It took like what seemed like forever Nvidia to slot into the upper mid range, so from that perspective to me it is underwhelming. The efficiency of Kepler however is excellent, props for that.
 

sontin

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nVidia is collecting all the money from the other 28nm products. Give them a break it's not easy. :'(
 

llee

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How come no one is talking about how late this card is to the party?

The GTX460 and GTX560 both trailed the 'x80' cards by two quarters, albeit for completely different reasons. Perhaps people are used to 'fragmented' launches?
 
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Why isn't the 580 being benched against this card?
Anyone else notice what a sad state PC gaming is in? Most of the games being benched are old or old enough that people are moving on to other games. I guess it'd be no fun to bench other games if all the current cards are maxing them out at 100+ fps.
 

B-Riz

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The GTX460 and GTX560 both trailed the 'x80' cards by two quarters, albeit for completely different reasons. Perhaps people are used to 'fragmented' launches?

On the CPU side, Intel launched i7 920 THEN i5 750 which was a better value.

Round 2 they released i5 2500k (stole the show) THEN i7 3930k.

Vid cards are out of whack; but the companies want to showcase the biggest and fastest first...
 

kaihonsou

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Traditionally, how long does it take for AMD to react, if at all?

660ti is way to expensive in Ireland (320 euro, the 7850 is 220 euro) but hopefully it shifts some prices around.

Sadly, my 460 SE is still good enough for everything maxed at 1680x1050.
 

Keysplayr

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How come no one is talking about how late this card is to the party? It took like what seemed like forever Nvidia to slot into the upper mid range, so from that perspective to me it is underwhelming. The efficiency of Kepler however is excellent, props for that.

Well, somebody is. You.
Would not be complete without it.
 

B-Riz

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$299 msrp? I wonder when consumers will stop bending over.

Yeah, Once you're in the market for a $300 vid card, maybe price isn't that big a deal, else the lower price bracket would be more enticing.

I still remember the 6600GT disrupting things; but I have now moved to wanting higher end cards / more performance.
 

cmdrdredd

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HardOCP claims that the GALAXY 3GB is just about as fast as the 670. Interesting.

I was going to buy the 680, but the 670 is just as good for $100 less. So now I'm looking the 660. I'm thinking 660s in SLI may be awesome. Going to wait for some more reviews.

That or I just buy the 690 and DGAF.

Thats cause hardocp is sort of a joke. They do "highest playable settings" and claim one much slower card is just as good because "hey its playable at 40fps averages". It isn't exactly being honest about it. Put alk cards at the same settings and compare. They do that but in their conclusion they favor "playable". I like guru3d though. They even say flat out that they don't go for what is playable. They feel that a pc game should be run at max settings whenever possible and that is how they test.

Why isn't the 580 being benched against this card?
Anyone else notice what a sad state PC gaming is in? Most of the games being benched are old or old enough that people are moving on to other games. I guess it'd be no fun to bench other games if all the current cards are maxing them out at 100+ fps.

They are the most demanding titles that are easy to bench though. I think sleeping dogs is a good benchmark too with the high resolution textures and all. Some newer games just don't offer benchmark modes or give results that vary too much and are inconsistent.
 
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blackened23

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So *NOW* they're giving out borderlands 2 free with GTX 6xx purchases. Great. I want BL2 - loved the first one!, I wish this applied to prior purchases I also just bought a coupe msi lightning 680s a few weeks back, grr.

Performance on the 660 seems all over the place. Some sites show it slower than 7950, some sites show it even, some show it faster? In any case the 660ti chokes with heavy AA or tessellation. IMHO, the 670GTX or 7970 would be better buys (7970 is selling for 370$ in some places). Although there is no doubt the 660ti will be a hit, tons of people will get it.

cmdrdredd, give me borderlands 2!
 

JM Popaleetus

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I think these benches settle it...





Plus, the consensus seems to be that two-way scaling is excellent. I'll probably pick up two of these to run 2560x1440 with no issues.
 

blackened23

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I'll call your cherry picking and meet with my own.



As it stands, AMD’s position correctly reflects their performance; the GTX 660 Ti is a solid and relatively consistent 10-15% faster than the 7870, while the 7950 is anywhere between a bit faster to a bit slower depending on what benchmarks you favor. Of course when talking about the 7950 the “anything but equal” maxim still applies here, if not more so than with the GTX 670. The GTX 660 Ti is anywhere between 50% ahead of the 7950 and 25% behind it, and everywhere in between.

Coupled with the tight pricing between all of these cards, this makes it very hard to make any kind of meaningful recommendation here for potential buyers. Compared to the 7870 the GTX 660 Ti is a solid buy if you can spare the extra $20, though it’s not going to be a massive difference. The performance difference is going to be just enough that AMD is going to need to trim prices a bit more to secure the 7870’s position.

Actually, who the hell cares, nevermind. Someone sell me their BL2 code.
 
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JM Popaleetus

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I'll call your cherry picking and meet with my own.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6159/49200.png[img][/QUOTE]Go for it. I have no interest in Batman, nor do I care about comparing it against AMD. Moreover, two 660s will scale to ~100FPS...way over the 60FPS my screen will be limited to.

I'm sick of AMD's drivers in regards to Crossfire, and in general. I'm ready to go back to nVidia after three years.
 

blackened23

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Go for it. I have no interest in Batman, nor do I care about comparing it against AMD. Moreover, two 660s will scale to ~100FPS...way over the 60FPS my screen will be limited to.

I'm sick of AMD's drivers in regards to Crossfire, and in general. I'm ready to go back to nVidia after three years.

Okay cool. Just give me your BL2 code
 

hyrule4927

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It's better than expected, but it won't really be a good buy until it drops below $300. I'd really like to see some overclocked benches against a 1150+ MHz 7950 too . . .
 

SunnyD

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It's better than expected, but it won't really be a good buy until it drops below $300. I'd really like to see some overclocked benches against a 1150+ MHz 7950 too . . .

Indeed. I was fine when speculation said $199 or even $249 MSRP - $249 MSRP would have put retail cards around $229-239 shortly after launch which I would have seen as "ok" for a mid-range gaming card with a castrated memory bus and crippled multimonitor/AA support.

Putting it at $299 MSRP at launch is just a ridiculous slap in the face.
 

thilanliyan

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Giving BL2 with this card is a good plan. I would certainly have liked to get that game with any of my video card purchases.
 

n0x1ous

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Does anyone not want Borderlands 2? Makes this pretty much a $249 card for most of us. A good 1080 card but memory bandwidth too castrated for 1600p but then again most 1600p users not in the market for cards < $300
 

RussianSensation

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Not a bad card, but nearly 6.5 months since 7950 launched and yet it just matches its performance at 800mhz. AnandTech's review goes easy on modern cards though, no Ultra setting on Shogun 2 at 1080P, just 4AA in Batman AC, no SSAA or high level mods for Skyrim + 8AA. No wonder this card flies through the test.

Put the modern cards to more stress and you start to see the separation far more clearly. The ROP and memory bandwidth bottlenecks are revealed fast. Skyrim with mods at 1080P + 8AA and a stock 7950 beats the 660Ti by 24%.

Expand the test to include 15 games, and the overall the performance is just 1% faster at 1080P 8AA than a 7870 and tied with a stock 7950 at 1080P 4AA, actually loses to 7950 by 5% with 8AA:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti/7/

It'll be a good card for people who don't overclock or care more about performance/watt, or want specific NV features. The enthusiast choice imo continues to be an overclocked 7950. Actually based on the benchmarks, it won't even be close once 7950 reaches 1.1ghz, esp. for someone who likes traditional MSAA.

It's good to see NV finally enter the sub $400 market, at least giving 7870/7950 more competition and bringing prices lower for cards overall.

For 1080P with BL2, it's a great deal for the non-overclocking crowd.

Plus, the consensus seems to be that two-way scaling is excellent. I'll probably pick up two of these to run 2560x1440 with no issues.

Sure it'll be fast but compared to 2x HD7950 CF it'll be destroyed at this rez.

Let's see a review with 15 games and pushing the cards to the limit with mods and high AA, not FXAA and High settings on Shogun 2 to preserve GTX570's performance with its 1.28GB of VRAM.

What happens is eye-popping: GTX660Ti SLI is only 6% faster than a 1050mhz HD7970 at 2560x1600! That really shows this card is good for 1080P but not much more. 2 of these in SLI won't even beat a 1.2ghz HD7970 and compared to 2x HD7950 OCed they'll be crushed by 40% easily at 2560x1440.

Think about it, at 2560x1600 this card is already 7% slower than an 800mhz 7950. Put up 2x HD7950 @ 1.1ghz and it'll mop the floor with 2x overclocked GTX660Ti SLI at high rez.
 
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parkerlewis

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Soo...

Tom's Hardware says the card is a disappointment that's only competitive with the Radeon 7870.

AnandTech, Guru 3D, TechPowerUp have it on par or better than a 7950 and are giving it Editor's Choice awards.

MSI 660 Ti (overclocked) Twin Frozr is $300 after rebate and comes with Borderlands 2

MSI 7950 Twin Frozr is $330 after rebate, with no games.

After all the driver headaches, lack of PhysX, and OpenGL (RAGE) problems I had with my 5870, it's a no brainer, I bought the 660 Ti. Looks like the perfect card for me to play at 1080p with low AA settings (I usually just use injectSMAA).
 
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antef

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I'm struggling between 7950 and 660 Ti. On one hand I don't like AMD's tactic of slyly changing the 7950's specs without a rename, makes them seem desperate and I'm not sure I appreciate the additional power consumption and higher temps. At the same time it seems to outperform the 660 Ti in several scenarios, but not in BF3 which is one of the benchmarks I care about. I also want something hassle-free regarding drivers, etc. Maybe it comes down to exact price?
 

parkerlewis

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I'm struggling between 7950 and 660 Ti. On one hand I don't like AMD's tactic of slyly changing the 7950's specs without a rename, makes them seem desperate and I'm not sure I appreciate the additional power consumption and higher temps. At the same time it seems to outperform the 660 Ti in several scenarios, but not in BF3 which is one of the benchmarks I care about. I also want something hassle-free regarding drivers, etc. Maybe it comes down to exact price?

I already bought Borderlands 2 so I'll be selling the copy that comes with the 660 Ti, hopefully for around $40. That makes the 660 Ti $70 cheaper than the 7950 (both at Newegg), simplified my decision quite a bit.
 

-Slacker-

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So is anyone actually going to benchmark Sleeping Dogs already? Yeah ... No? K, I'll just wait then...
 
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