GTX-690 Reviews are up.

[Don Karnage]

A. I dont think you are in the market for one anyway

B. These are halo cards that are going to sell out immediately, why not make the highest margin?

C. What I freakin paid was overpriced for the performance.


All the kiddies who were just loving the 7990, even though they could never afford one, are now downplaying the fastest card on the planet. Classic.

You're absolutely right. I just waste money on processors and not video cards

 

[Zebo]

That's just dumb. a 4 years old 1366 can play everything today in all it's glory..GL playing anything well on a 9800gtx or 4870.

U should have saved your processor $ and then afford this card.

 

[railven]

A. I dont think you are in the market for one anyway

B. These are halo cards that are going to sell out immediately, why not make the highest margin?

C. What I freakin paid was overpriced for the performance.


All the kiddies who were just loving the 7990, even though they could never afford one, are now downplaying the fastest card on the planet. Classic.

When did the 7990 launch? Not sure if that was for the 6990 or 7970...I'd assume 7970.

But I agree, the flip flopping from both sides is disgusting. Now price isn't/is an issue?

ANd if the HD 7990 launches hot and power hungry, then it won't/will be an issue? Yuck!

I'm with Ferzerp...but it's always the same people so.../shrug

 

[Insomniator]

Hardly anyone cares about these top end cards and the few that do definitely don't care about the price tag.

1k is fine, just like 1k for Intels EE cpu's is fine. Heck they could probably charge $1200 for this GPU and sell the same amount.

 

[SirPauly]

After I read this, which made me read it a few times:

Improved Frame rate Metering

Kepler introduces hardware based frame rate metering, a technology that helps to minimize stuttering. In SLI mode, two GPUs share the workload by operating on successive frames; one GPU works on the current frame while the other GPU works on the next frame. But because the workload of each frame is different, the two GPUs will complete their frames at different times. Sending the frames to the monitor at varying intervals can result in perceived stuttering.

The GeForce GTX 690 features a metering mechanism (similar to a traffic meter for a freeway entrance) to regulate the flow of frames. By monitoring and smoothing out any disparities in how frames are issued to the monitor, frame rates feel smoother and more consistent.

Was curious if a site would take the time to test this hardware metering mechanism:


http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...dia-geforce-gtx-690/8/#abschnitt_mikroruckler

Placed a huge smile on my face.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Why is there so much variation with CF?

 

[Jaydip]

Guru tested 690 in 1280X1024 as well

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Hardly anyone cares about these top end cards and the few that do definitely don't care about the price tag.

1k is fine, just like 1k for Intels EE cpu's is fine. Heck they could probably charge $1200 for this GPU and sell the same amount.

You should care though. Remember all the defending of the 7970 pricing and how people bought them regardless? A few months later guess what? Gtx670 is now a voltage locked gtx 680. 690 is now a $1000 card. Gtx 670 is rumored to be $429.
So yes if people are willing to pay $1000 for a dual gpu king then you bet NV is gonna test the waters with $600-$700 single gpus and the lower tier drifts up too.

 

[Don Karnage]

Where are the quad SLI results?

 

[Jionix]

AMD needs a complete re-vamp...

No, they don't..

Nvidia is the one that needs a complete revamp --- they only have ONE chip being produced at this point. What is wrong with their process that they can't manufacture their chips? It's a great chip... But when they can't make enough of it, and all their time is being spent on this one chip, it's cause for concern.

Maybe this is just a perception thing, but it strikes me as extremely insecure that Nvidia is sending off their halo card immediately.. Not only does it scream "look at me!!!", it really does expose the bigger problem --- right now Nvidia only has their GK104 chip.. No GK107, no GK109 or whatever.. That's a problem.

AMD just started a completely new arch, and they are not that far behind Nvidia at this point. Hell, a simple refresh of Tahiti chip will pull the power numbers down and get the clock speeds up. Then your looking at AMD in the lead again (for how long, right?).

 

[BallaTheFeared]

How many financial analysts does Anand have?

 

[Corporate Thug]

2GB on a $1k card? really?

 

[Jaydip]

I believe 670 is dropping pretty soon.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Yay, thread is turning in to another "hurray for my side thread"

:Sigh:

Really wish the mods would clamp down for a bit to stop every single thread from becoming an AMD vs NV nuh-uh/uh-huh thread.

There is no competition, that's the point. 7970 CF is worse in every way and their drivers are currently broken. :hmm:

Why is there so much variation with CF?

It's easy Ferzerp, Balla attempts to start a NV vs AMD fight, or put AMD in a bad light in almost every post he makes. It's easy to see what his intentions are. This used to be a better place to come, read, learn and have fun...

 

[BallaTheFeared]

*points finger*

 

[Gikaseixas]

Great card but since it doesn't have the same stock speed as a GTX 680 and it's only a single card, pcb, etc it should cost a tad less, maybe $849.99 - $899.99

 

[chimaxi83]

You would think this was a business forum with all the wannabe financial analysts here, lol.

It's easy Ferzerp, Balla attempts to start a NV vs AMD fight, or put AMD in a bad light in almost every post he makes. It's easy to see what his intentions are. This used to be a better place to come, read, learn and have fun...

There is truth in this statement, sadly.

Great card but since it doesn't have the same stock speed as a GTX 680 and it's only a single card, pcb, etc it should cost a tad less, maybe $849.99 - $899.99

I agree, but they priced it according to performance. It's almost spot on with 680 SLI, with excellent power consumption for a dual GPU card, so they really have no reason to sell it any cheaper.

 

[Jaydip]

When the 480 was released this forum became a bane for NV's fans.So if there is a problem with AMD cards why it is wrong to point them out?

 

[Silverforce11]

When the 480 was released this forum became a bane for NV's fans.So if there is a problem with AMD cards why it is wrong to point them out?

Pointing out a problem is one thing, claiming a potential problem for some users who notice microstutter then making a general statement that AMD CF is bad or non-functional is fanboyism to the core.

So next time its best to rephrase such statements, perhaps as such: "if you notice microstutters and its a problem for you, NV may have an edge in multi-GPU". Note: "may" because frame-time is a poor measurement as attested by the original techreport's own writer of the microstutter article.

ps. The price at $999 is perfectly justifiable, its a HALO product, it offers similar performance/OC headroom as gtx680 SLI with a significant power use reduction and less noise than SLI. Just because its expensive doesn't mean its a rip-off. There's plenty of ppl who would buy it at those prices, not going to be an issue at all.

edit: gotta love [H]'s conclusion: "The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 is the finest looking, best performing, most efficient dual-GPU video card in the world with unsurpassed design and engineering. The GeForce GTX 690 not only performs in terms of framerate, but also performs in terms of thermals, TDP, acoustics, and aesthetics. This is the "most perfect" dual-GPU video card we've ever experienced." ----- next time some troll claims [H] is AMD biased, they deserve to be ban because its clearly trolling.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Pointing out a problem is one thing, claiming a potential problem for some users who notice microstutter then making a general statement that AMD CF is bad or non-functional is fanboyism to the core.

I never came up with it, [H] did, and Anand did when they said it was broken.

But they're fanboys I guess

 

[Abwx]

Hardware.fr s overall perfs....

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/864-17/recapitulatif-performances.html

 

[Jaydip]

Pointing out a problem is one thing, claiming a potential problem for some users who notice microstutter then making a general statement that AMD CF is bad or non-functional is fanboyism to the core.

So next time its best to rephrase such statements, perhaps as such: "if you notice microstutters and its a problem for you, NV may have an edge in multi-GPU". Note: "may" because frame-time is a poor measurement as attested by the original techreport's own writer of the microstutter article.

ps. The price at $999 is perfectly justifiable, its a HALO product, it offers similar performance/OC headroom as gtx680 SLI with a significant power use reduction and less noise than SLI. Just because its expensive doesn't mean its a rip-off. There's plenty of ppl who would buy it at those prices, not going to be an issue at all.

I agree to ur idea but then again 590 was considered a turd because some guy killed the card while overvolting .I think this rule should be applicable for both camps.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I never came up with it, [H] did, and Anand did when they said it was broken.

But they're fanboys I guess

It's only the 3rd (or so) time that you post or link to those comments in different threads. I would assume it's normal to "alert" others once but to keep repeating it every time?

 

[Silverforce11]

I never came up with it, [H] did, and Anand did when they said it was broken.

But they're fanboys I guess

My address is to anyone who makes such absurd claims. They need to take a step back and smell the coffee because a lack of scaling in a game or two is nothing new to multi-GPU ever since it originated back in the days. Skyrim CF was broken for a few weeks, [H] and a few users here over-reacted. I don't recall the same reaction when Dragon Age was broken for SLI for a few months, not just lack of scaling, but corrupt textures as well. They are both AAA+ games.

Looking at AT's own gtx690 review, CF scaled very well in most of their small game list, even beating SLI in a few games. Is that broken? Don't be stupid please.

As to microstutter, some users notice it, some don't, its an individual subjective phenomenon.

 

[Jaydip]

Hardware.fr s overall perfs....

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/864-17/recapitulatif-performances.html

look at this chart

it is in contrast with all the reviews out there