The winner here is clearly a good custom R290, for ~$400-420, is going to rival the much more expensive R290X AND super more expensive 780Ti.
Obligatory: "TAKE MY MONEY"!! memo.. if only it could come sooner.
I bet majority of 290 users will use their 290X like this one here:
780Ti amazing OC thanks to good cooler.
Overclocker edition 780 GHz B1 stepping max OC out of 2 tested samples was 1123Mhz which was stock boosting clock.
290X with its terrible leafblower clocked to 1220.
290 clocked up to 1220 mhz aswell. That was cooled with mk-26 aftermarket heatsink.
I have a feeling that good aftermarket cooler will benefit 290X the most out of these.
"without risk there is no reward"
EVGA will let me 'step-up' from my 780 HC Classifieds, but it's more of a step-down :/ Wouldn't cost me anything but shipping. 780ti Classified is at least over a few month out per their forum.
Complaining about taxes. How much do you pay for state applied sales tax ? Couldn't be as bad as it is in Canada. Everything you buy has +13% in tax added regardless of where or how you buy it. Every $1000 you spend gets $130 added no matter what.
EVGA will let me 'step-up' from my 780 HC Classifieds, but it's more of a step-down :/ Wouldn't cost me anything but shipping. 780ti Classified is at least over a few month out per their forum.
Complaining about taxes. How much do you pay for state applied sales tax ? Couldn't be as bad as it is in Canada. Everything you buy has +13% in tax added regardless of where or how you buy it. Every $1000 you spend gets $130 added no matter what.
Given the price asked, I was expecting a lot more. I should have known better than to expect Nvidia to price their card more competitively. No reason for 780/titan owners to step up to this.
Bought from Tiger Direct with next day air ($20). Evga vanilla. I may gets ballsy when the card arrives and rip the bios from it and try to "stick" it on a 780. I'm 99.999999999999997% sure it won't work but without risk there is no reward.
Nice!
You got stones messing with bios on >$500 cards.
we'll see. It all depends on if I want to bother with having to blind flash. I may just blow em' out the door for $400 ea... sigh.... dunno yet.
I won't shop at Tiger Direct. I get charged tax online plus shipping, and they don't offer in store pick up. I called them and asked if they would match Newegg and they said no. Pretty sorry if you ask me. Even Best Buy price matches Newegg now.
I went to the Micro Center near where I work during my lunch break today. They didn't have any in yet.
to be honest, I would rather drive 60 mins to Microcenter to get it NOW and support a local business that I like. Microcenter is like crack.
About a year ago I went there with my wife and something funny happened, to her anyways. She left me in the first aisle and went across the street to Trader Joe's for about 45 minutes. When she returned, she couldn't find me. Finally after walking around the store she called me and asked me where I was. I was still in the first aisle (cooling gear). I found out that day that she has a lot of patience for me.
Not only is 290x made irrelevant by Nvidia with the Ti, AMD made it irrelevant from the other side with the 290.
AMD stock is still sitting in the $3 range for a reason.
Hardforum keeps losing credibility....all it does is center on MSRP of the cards. Not only are there no 290x, but when you can find out, you sure as heck aren't paying $549 for it. And then everyone recommends you slap on an expensive cooler.......
This round of launches is actually very telling.
Care to elaborate?
290x no longer has the performance crown, and if you are going to spend the money and void your warranty with an aftermarket cooler anyway, why not go with the regular 290?
The people who want the absolute fastest will go 780ti, and people in the next tier down will go 290 or 780.
Actually I am waiting on custom R290.. from the looks of Accelero results, at ~$400 for a Gigabyte Windforce model, it comes very close to the big boys OC vs OC.
Actually I am waiting on custom R290.. from the looks of Accelero results, at ~$400 for a Gigabyte Windforce model, it comes very close to the big boys OC vs OC.
I know what you mean, but comparing GTX 780 Ti to R9 290X in "Quiet" mode is the most apples to apples comparison (and in fact, GTX 780 Ti is still a bit quieter than R9 290X in "Quiet" mode). That said, there are still big differences in temperatures on these reference models, so still not quite apples to apples.
And this works both ways too. [H]OCP compared GTX 780 Ti to only R9 290X in "Uber" mode.
We are talking about high-end cards that are $550 and more, of course we are going to run in the setting that allows the cards to achieve their potential. If I spend $550 on a card, I'm not going to artificially hold its performance back in my gaming machine. We can do this because the Uber Mode is an official AMD performance option shipping on every 290X, and everyone will be able to experience that mode, completely supported by AMD. You can argue the noise factor all you want, but if you hold a video card back in its potential, what are you really showing? We felt that Uber Mode is the setting that enthusiasts and gamers who use this card will relate to.
Why did you decide to use the list price of the 780ti for comparing prices ($719), and the MSRP of the 290x, ($549) which nobody is actually selling them at? Would you consider that an oversight or intellectual dishonesty?