GTX 780 Ti reviews

[ICDP]

Anandthech and Guru3d provide best review and benchmark.It is hard to accept that Nvidia has currently fastest single GPU on the planet

I never said the 780Ti is not the fastest single GPU. I am merely pointing out the performance lead is not substantial enough for it to be declared a significant improvement over R9 290X. I said the same thing many times when people claimed HD 7970GHz was better than GTX680 because it was faster.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34589303&postcount=5

Cherry picking results is easy if you want to suit your agenda. It's amazing how only a few weeks ago R9 290X was over 10% faster than GTX780 yet the 780 was "still a better GPU overall" according to Nvidia fans. Now 780Ti is less than 10% faster than R9 290X and it's the second coming of that mythical character whatsisname.

 

[desprado]

If AMD was in position to charge more, they would. They knew the 780Ti was coming more than likely and realized they would not be able to command more than $600 for the 290X and that Nvidia would likely drop the price of the 780 in response...so they did what they had to do to put themselves in the best position to sell the most cards. It's all market posturing to make the best return on their investment.

To think that AMD just decides to sell their cards for less because they care about the well being of their customers is a bit naive.

AMD do not have a PC market in GPU or CPU.Nvidia has the majority and majority of dev too.
AMD is not an angle and AMD nows if they start pricing like Nvidia than no one will buy there product but Nvidia nows how to sell and how to increase there market and customer.

AMD cannot afford to sell there cards like Nvidia does or else it would only be Nvidia than.

 

[wand3r3r]

I never said the 780Ti is not the fastest single GPU. I am merely pointing out the performance lead is not substantial enough for it to be declared a significant improvement over R9 290X.

Cherry picking results is easy if you want to suit your agenda. It's amazing how only a few weeks ago R9 290X was over 10% faster than GTX780 yet the 780 was "still a better GPU overall" according to Nvidia fans. Now 780Ti is less than 10% faster than R9 290X and it's the second coming of that mythical character whatsisname.

Exactly, reading the comments in the 290x thread, and then popping into this thread is pretty revealing. Too little too late, nitpicking, too expensive, etc. etc. Then in this thread posts cherry picking data to promote the ti as the greatest thing that's ever happened.

The ti has a small lead, it's a few % faster. Sure it's winning, and that's not even a debate, but it's barely winning yet priced 27% more. When you go higher resolutions or crossfire/sli it's a lot closer or even getting beaten. How is that possible if it's so great that it's even priced way higher?

It's hardly a difference and certainly not the 30% lead that titan had over the 7970GHz 8 months ago. When the 7970 Ghz led by a similar % it was ignored by a lot of people praising the ti's lead.

There are even inconsistencies between the 290x review and 780 ti review in AT as pointed out. The 290 was completely negative due to noise, which completely ignores the dominating price/performance.

The 780 ti sli is weak/pitiful, the noise increased from the 780, power is near the 290x. Those nitpicks were presented as if unbearable in the 290x thread, yet when this card is worse than it's predecessors in those aspects they were complaining about, it's ignored.

It's a fine card imo, if posters just quit moving the goalposts.

 

[tg2708]

I don't know but this seems like a last ditch effort on Nvidia's part. I am by no means bias towards a certain company but to just now release a fully enabled chip only as a response to amd building a much faster card in certain scenarios is a bit disgusting, irrational and a cheat. Nvidia had the power to unlock these chips from the get go but was waiting solely on amd's response to release it. So based on few tidbits I have gathered they disingenuously overcharged for the titan and gtx 780 knowing fully well they were not fully unlocked thus not worth the asking price. They knew amd had a winner and also shamelessly took their loyal customers money in anticipation of a company besting them. So with that said if the ti was released shortly after the titan and 780 amds offering would have most likely been the faster card probably at similar expenses(heat and noise). To me nvidia took you lot for a ride.

 

[ICDP]

I don't know but this seems like a last ditch effort on Nvidia's part. I am by no means bias towards a certain company but to just now release a fully enabled chip only as a response to amd building a much faster card in certain scenarios is a bit disgusting, irrational and a cheat. Nvidia had the power to unlock these chips from the get go but was waiting solely on amd's response to release it. So based on few tidbits I have gathered they disingenuously overcharged for the titan and gtx 780 knowing fully well they were not fully unlocked thus not worth the asking price. They knew amd had a winner and also shamelessly took their loyal customers money in anticipation of a company besting them. So with that said if the ti was released shortly after the titan and 780 amds offering would have most likely been the faster card probably at similar expenses(heat and noise). To me nvidia took you lot for a ride.

They did, but they are a company and so are AMD. For example the R9 290X was released under two weeks ahead of R9 290 and is far more expensive yet less than 10% faster. GTX780Ti is the fastest single GPU available right now at normal resolution of 1600p and less. I'm not even bothered about the price difference between 780Ti and R9 290X. The problem is it is not significantly faster like the Nvidia fans would have us believe.

Don't be naive enough to believe AMD = paragons of virtue and Nvidia = all that is unholy. They are faceless corporations out to get your money.

 

[Subyman]

The thing that has me a little ticked at nvidia is they price the Titan at a ridiculous level so that when they launch the 780 at $150 more than the previous 680, it feels like a "good deal." Luckily AMD priced the R9 290 back to where things should be. Although GK110 is a good chip, it's gotten enthusiasts a little too comfortable paying top dollar. The worst part is trickling the line up out, $999 and then a few months later $650, but oh wait now you can have the "full" chip for $699.

I decided not to play that game. I happily bought a 680 at launch, but Titan soured me to gk110.

 

[tg2708]

They did, but they are a company and so are AMD. For example the R9 290X was released under two weeks ahead of R9 290 and is far more expensive yet less than 10% faster.

Don't be naive enough to believe AMD = paragons of virtue and Nvidia = all that is unholy. They are faceless corporations out to get your money.

Yea I totally agree with you but seen how the current asking price for the ti could have been justified as being a step up to the titan months ago is a bit disheartening because they blatantly ripped their customers off. I have not been following computers until a few months ago when I built mine so I really don't know much about either company. But rather than improve technology at a faster rate a company deliberately holds back technological advancements just to see what their main competitor comes up with. So in a case like this amd is the paragon of virtue.

 

[Silverforce11]

Exactly....R290 cannibalized 290x, which is where the margin for AMD was. They both cost the same to make, and now AMD is selling them both for less than what they wanted to.

290 is a price/performance monster.....even more than AMD wanted. Good for end users, bad for shareholders.

Not many of us are shareholders, so we should not care about margins or profitability.. this isn't the Apple religion.

290 is a gem NOW, slapping on a $60 aftermarket, its still cheaper and now runs cooler, using less power and faster.. whats not to love? When late november hits, aftermarket varieties show up for $0 to $10 premium.. GG to everything above it (780, 780ti, R290X etc).

Regarding Gigabyte Windforce vs MSI, I feel that the Windforce is better at higher OC due to its fans never reaching the "annoyingly loud" threshold which the Twin Froz certainly does if you push it. Powercolor's PCS+ and Windforce are both IMO, one of the quietest.

 

[parvadomus]

AMD do not have a PC market in GPU or CPU.Nvidia has the majority and majority of dev too.
AMD is not an angle and AMD nows if they start pricing like Nvidia than no one will buy there product but Nvidia nows how to sell and how to increase there market and customer.

AMD cannot afford to sell there cards like Nvidia does or else it would only be Nvidia than.

Please try to learn english. And your post is [all wrong]. The difference between NV and AMD is that NV can make big dies thanks to its HPC market, everything else is the same.


No inappropriate language in the tech forums, please.

Moderator jvroig

 

[desprado]

Please try to learn english. And your post is [all wrong]. The difference between NV and AMD is that NV can make big dies thanks to its HPC market, everything else is the same.


No inappropriate language in the tech forums, please.

Moderator jvroig

wow i am shocked but April fool day is on 1st of April than u can re post this.



Let's stop the thread crapping now...

-Rvenger

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Nvidia cards don't really appeal to me anymore due to price performance but it looks like a beastly card. Really don't like the 3gb at such a premium. If tech is about going forward then why are they cheaping out on such an important factor in gaming at high resolution? Surely having 3gb can be nothing but a negative going forward.
I just about purchased a 290 myself but cancelled at the last minute. I can't even justify$400 so obviously these cards aren't intended for me. I'll probably jump back on the 290 when I can get a copy of bf4 with it.

 

[parvadomus]

wow i am shocked but April fool day is on 1st of April than u can re post this.

Ya, reserve your 0 facts fanboy comments for april fools. :whiste:


Personal Attacks will not be tolerated.

-Rvenger

 

[desprado]

Ya, reserve your 0 facts fanboy comments for april fools. :whiste:

NO offense but post that again in April fools day than maybe someone will really believe u .

 

[Nintendesert]

The performance is very nice. It's a good looking GPU. I don't like the price, it makes the 780s with non-reference coolers look really better though. I'm not too sold on the 3gb on a 700 dollar card though, I just have a feeling the new consoles are going to change the PC landscape but for now 3gb is decent enough.

Price/Perf a 290 with a better cooler can't be beat, but the 780ti isn't aimed at people that like a good price/perf ratio, they want the fastest Green card money can buy and the 780ti does deliver on that. I do feel sorry for Titan owners though.

 

[imaheadcase]

Actually AMD makes higher performance cards and charges less. nVidia just reacted to that.

Reacted with a slightly faster card you mean. Hence the reason it costs more.

 

[parvadomus]

NO offense but post that again in April fools day than maybe some really believe u .

Man, did u read your comment? "AMD do not have a PC market in GPU or CPU.Nvidia has the majority and majority of dev too."

Explain that aprils fool joke please. pc market, dev? WTF

 

[desprado]

Man, did u read your comment? "AMD do not have a PC market in GPU or CPU.Nvidia has the majority and majority of dev too."

Explain that aprils fool joke please. pc market, dev? WTF

Developers short form is Dev as u can find this in Google if u try.U can search on Google that Nvidia dominate in GPU and and has the majority around 60% user globally and there Market shares price is 6 times more than AMD and 6 times larger and u cannot understand this if u are fanboy.

 

[NIGELG]

Developers short form is Dev as u can find this in Google if u try.U can search on Google that Nvidia dominate in GPU and and has the majority around 60% user globally and there Market shares price is 6 times more than AMD and 6 times larger and u cannot understand this if u are fanboy.

You can also type in the search bar on Google ''How to write English properly''.

The 780 Ti is a great card,no doubts about that.Maybe 150 dollars overpriced though.

Personally I will keep my 7970 UNTIL the next generation of Video cards arrive and are ready for the public....


Personal attacks are not permitted and against the forum rules.

-Rvenger

 

[krumme]

Nvidia cards don't really appeal to me anymore due to price performance but it looks like a beastly card. Really don't like the 3gb at such a premium. If tech is about going forward then why are they cheaping out on such an important factor in gaming at high resolution? Surely having 3gb can be nothing but a negative going forward.
I just about purchased a 290 myself but cancelled at the last minute. I can't even justify$400 so obviously these cards aren't intended for me. I'll probably jump back on the 290 when I can get a copy of bf4 with it.

The 4200, 6800 and 8800gt was excellent cards perf/$ since then nv have been bad value and lots of marketing and brand focusing. The 780ti with 3gb for 700 is a prime example of that bad development. Its getting worse and worse for nv value imho. Its also leading to more and more expensive cards. Fortunately amd have started to make high end cards with the 5 series.

 

[desprado]

You can also type in the search bar on Google ''How to write English properly''.

The 780 Ti is a great card,no doubts about that.Maybe 150 dollars overpriced though.

Personally I will keep my 7970 UNTIL the next generation of Video cards arrive and are ready for the public....

I now my english is bad but it is not my mother language either.

 

[tg2708]

I now my english is bad but it is not my mother language either.

People just use language as a tactic to get under the skin of another person. I hate when its done because they are most likely saying one is stupid but no one can be the judge of that if they don't truly know the person. Put more bluntly they use or say some thing 'low blow' when their argument is invalidated.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Just remember folks. Next time with Nvidia`s Maxwell, if you plan on only buying one graphic card, you buy the GTX 890.

GTX 690 was one of the first cards released by Nvidia and its still the greatest card they have ever built. Sure it cost $999 when it was released, but the people who bought it enjoyed the greatest FPS (still do) and they have been on the top now for 1.5 year and still counting.

Pretty funny actually.

 

[Erenhardt]

I have to say that 780Ti is somewhat a low blow at nvidia fans. Some people were hit directly in the "family jewels" upgrading from 780 to 780ti. You bough the same thing again! NV charged you twice for the same product (or 4 times if one went SLI both times).

Look at the possible upgrade path this gen (28nm)
gtx680>780(Titan )>780ti
They repeatedly sold you a card for the flag-ship price point, which was not a flagship.
AMD did 7970>290X but that is a bit different, as no one expected big die from them.

 

[96Firebird]

Why do you assume people would upgrade from a 780 to a 780Ti?

 

[Teizo]

I have to say that 780Ti is somewhat a low blow at nvidia fans. Some people were hit directly in the "family jewels" upgrading from 780 to 780ti. You bough the same thing again! NV charged you twice for the same product (or 4 times if one went SLI both times).

This is possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever read here on AnandTech.