GTX 780 Ti reviews

[GaiaHunter]

Ask Ryan Smith yourself, but I am pretty sure he has stated in a past review that the measured power consumption in Crysis 3 is using the same test sequence and 25x16 settings that he uses in the performance benchmark. So it is a valid perf-per-watt measurement when the two results are divided by each other.

If you are looking for that kind of precision then what I'm pointing is that you can then say at those settings in that scene the 780Ti is such and such more power efficient, not that it is in all the settings and scenes of Crysis 3 because I've seen very different results.

 

[24601]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...-tax-friday/acyUMexp4ChUk2I6JtdJyI/story.html

This is why I left Mass.. I saw this coming over 20yrs ago...

Nothing like blatantly unconstitutional laws to remind yourself you live in the great US of A. Where the Federal Government maintains more strained relations with it's provinces than it does with it's foreign provinces.

 

[amenx]

Cons:
27% higher price for a piddly 7% performance, wth NV price gouging again!

In words Ronald Reagan immortalized.. "there you go again".

Gouging implies lack of choice, extorting basically. But people clearly have choices here.. they can buy a 290x for $150 less. And this I bet is what bothers you, that there are many people who are aware of that choice, yet still opt for the 780ti.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Agree with all of this. R9 290 crossfire is where its at. Also, this 780ti has how much Vram? 3gb? Really? With so much insane GPU power in an SLI configuration, you can't see yourself running completely out of Vram in a year with these cards? BF4 uses over 2gb at TEN EIGHTY PEE! The cards are great, for today (insane price aside). But in a year these will, yet again, be totally Vram gimped as is now standard procedure for Nvidia. I expect to have two R9 290's in my rig in the near future, unless I find the patience to wait for 20nm.

BF4 never goes over 2GB at 1080p. I know, I have 2GB cards. The way you bounce around between hating on nvidia and going all amd to "I will stay with what I have for now" to "nVidia sucks I will have 2x 290s soon" I just dunno how to respond. I'll just tell you that I run BF4 at 2560x1440 everything ultra with 2xmsaa and do not run out of vram.

 

[rtsurfer]

That is incorrect. All GTX 780/780Ti/Titan reference models have much more thermal/noise/power headroom available than R9 290/290X reference models. As an example, Titan owners have dramatically increased performance by raising thermal/noise/power limits. As for perf-per-dollar, no one in their right mind is going to spend $700-$1000 on a graphics card when they are on a tight budget. One may as well stick with a $150-$200 GPU to maximize perf-per-dollar.

Can I get some links please......???

Here is what I could pull up

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6980/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-overclocking-results

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-performance-review,3516-22.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/04/29/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_overclocking_review/2

84C is the maximum from what I could gather.

As for price/perfomance I was talking about the medium level enthusiast. You cannot be on really tight budget and expect to run new games at Ultra.

The sweet spot is 280X from AMD or 770 from NVIDIA.

I wasn't talking about the low end.

 

[blastingcap]

I love how some people determined to take one side totally disregard the 3 free games for the 780ti. Regardless of what you think of the games they are worth a minimum of $70 right now. Even subtract $20 for the 10 minutes of "work" to put up a listing and emailing codes to buyers and that's an extra $50 off. So the card ends up being $100 more for about 10% more performance. Pretty much the way its been for a while between these two companies. If the 780ti isn't "worth it" here's a real shocker, Nvidia top card has NEVER been worth it to you. But please continue blathering on with cherry picked data about how its different this time.

Hey I've been asking about game bundles for a while now because of this reason. I definitely keep that in consideration. To be fair though, I also heard that AMD will begin offering bundles with the R9 series soon, with "soon" ill-defined.

 

[lavaheadache]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...-tax-friday/acyUMexp4ChUk2I6JtdJyI/story.html

This is why I left Mass.. I saw this coming over 20yrs ago...

Oh noes.... The bieginning of the end

 

[raghu78]

the GTX 780 Ti is the fastest as a single GPU upto 1440p / 1600p. but R9 290X's stock cooler is still throttling even in uber mode. even then the fact of the matter is the GTX 780 Ti is not the fastest GPU for multi GPU and high res gaming. in fact SLI scaling is broken in few of the most important games at 4k .

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_geforce_review,23.html

BF4 3840 X 2160

R9 290X CF - 56 fps
GTX 780 Ti SLI - 40 fps

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...view-Full-GK110-Crashes-Hawaii/Metro-Last-Lig

"NVIDIA has finally confirmed this 4K bug with me and are working on a fix, but we see no scaling for the GTX 780 Ti cards over the results of a single GPU."

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...0x_crossfire_video_card_review/7#.Unu-oCf098E

"It is possible this game has a bug on TITAN SLI and GTX 780 SLI, as we did not see the full SLI indicator bar fully green, as we have in other games. There could be an inefficiency in SLI performance at 4K in this game on those cards."

custom R9 290X vs custom GTX 780 Ti will be a contest worth watching ut for. :thumbsup:

 

[cmdrdredd]

the GTX 780 Ti is the fastest as a single GPU upto 1440p / 1600p. but R9 290X's stock cooler is still throttling even in uber mode. even then the fact of the matter is the GTX 780 Ti is not the fastest GPU for multi GPU and high res gaming. in fact SLI scaling is broken in few of the most important games at 4k .

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_geforce_review,23.html

BF4 3840 X 2160

R9 290X CF - 56 fps
GTX 780 Ti SLI - 40 fps

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...view-Full-GK110-Crashes-Hawaii/Metro-Last-Lig

"NVIDIA has finally confirmed this 4K bug with me and are working on a fix, but we see no scaling for the GTX 780 Ti cards over the results of a single GPU."

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013...0x_crossfire_video_card_review/7#.Unu-oCf098E

"It is possible this game has a bug on TITAN SLI and GTX 780 SLI, as we did not see the full SLI indicator bar fully green, as we have in other games. There could be an inefficiency in SLI performance at 4K in this game on those cards."

custom R9 290X vs custom GTX 780 Ti will be a contest worth watching ut for. :thumbsup:

How many people run 4k resolutions? It is not that relevant yet to make such a fuss.

 

[f1sherman]

Questions:

1) Who will hit market earlier - aftermarket 780 Ti, or Black Edition?
2) Does NVIDIA have enough of full GK110 to serve all these SKUs (AMD apparently has troubles with Hawaii volumes)
3) We all know Nvidia has never shied away from (over)charging when they have top-product,
but are we going to see Nvidia slashing prices if AMD and partners tame Hawaii core / solve availability issues.

Q1 and GM104 are not that far...

 

[GaiaHunter]

Hey I've been asking about game bundles for a while now because of this reason. I definitely keep that in consideration. To be fair though, I also heard that AMD will begin offering bundles with the R9 series soon, with "soon" ill-defined.

For example overclockers.co.uk has some 290/290X cards that come with bundled games.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

Has 2 silver games and 1 bronze game code.

But I believe that is a store promotion.

 

[ams23]

Can I get some links please......???

It was a GTX Titan owners thread somewhere on this forum. You can try searching for it, it is somewhere here.

 

[rtsurfer]

BF4 never goes over 2GB at 1080p. I know, I have 2GB cards. The way you bounce around between hating on nvidia and going all amd to "I will stay with what I have for now" to "nVidia sucks I will have 2x 290s soon" I just dunno how to respond. I'll just tell you that I run BF4 at 2560x1440 everything ultra with 2xmsaa and do not run out of vram.

You are on the edge though.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/10/battlefield_4_beta_performance_preview/4

When buying a new performance card, I wouldn't suggest a 2Gb one.

Newer games will go over than soon.

 

[lavaheadache]

got one locked down from Tiger Direct but i'm f5 spamming newegg just in case. I bummed about the newly enforced amazon MA sales tax law as I was about to get 3.99 next day shipping. $750 for the card really didn't appeal to me =(

 

[blastingcap]

You know, those who are talking about power draw should keep in mind that R9 290X comes with 4GB of VRAM instead of 3GB, which has got to be worth several watts right there all by itself. Personally I'd rather have the extra GB of RAM even if it costs a little more power at load, because it's more futureproof vs higher-rez screens, Eyefinity/Surround, and next-gen console ports that may or may not require more VRAM. Of course nothing is really 100% futureproof, but every little bit helps.

 

[wand3r3r]

What kind of an inane comment is this? Power/noise/heat/etc. (and indirectly perf-per-watt) are important to reviewers and consumers alike, period.



Try reading what I wrote more carefully. I said that no one in their right mind would spend $700-$1000 on a tight budget. Get it?



Because people who can spend close to $1k on graphics card all in one shot are usually not penny pinchers?

Seriously, some people just don't seem to understand the market dynamics of a high end halo card.

You don't answer the question, it's about power usage. Not noise, nor heat.

Why would they suddenly go from counting watts, to opening up the wallet to splurge on an overpriced video card (780ti)? A little inconsistency is what I am pointing out, don't bring heat/noise into it. If they are not penny pinchers why would they care about a few watts?

 

[ams23]

in fact SLI scaling is broken in few of the most important games at 4k .

It is true that NVIDIA needs to work on 4K resolution SLI performance scaling. Luckily for NVIDIA, 4K gaming is more of a pipe dream right now for the overwhelmingly vast majority of consumers, but reviewers are starting to more aggressively test at that resolution. Anandtech's review is even a little hard to read and interpret because it is filled with so much 4K perf. data and multi-GPU perf. data (I would personally prefer it if Ryan more clearly isolated multi-GPU from single GPU, and more clearly isolated 4K from other resolutions, in his GPU reviews because it would be a lot easier to read through and analyze).

 

[Stuka87]

BF4 never goes over 2GB at 1080p. I know, I have 2GB cards. The way you bounce around between hating on nvidia and going all amd to "I will stay with what I have for now" to "nVidia sucks I will have 2x 290s soon" I just dunno how to respond. I'll just tell you that I run BF4 at 2560x1440 everything ultra with 2xmsaa and do not run out of vram.

How would you know if BF4 goes over 2GB if you only have 2GB? It is literally impossible for BF4 to use more than 2GB of RAM for you.

You are artificially bottlenecking your performance because you have 2GB of RAM. Your system is having to swap memory out at a higher rate than those with more memory. This will lead to small stutters when it goes to load.

The below graph is at VHQ, Ultra with 4x AA is going to use more:

 

[Crap Daddy]

This is a muscle flexing exercise from Nvidia. The speed with which they reacted to the surprising performance of Haitii is revealing. They dropped their $1000 card like a stone releasing a $300 cheaper card while outperforming it with a reasonable margin. People should stop complaining about the price, it is how NV runs their business. It is obvious that the 290 is the best perf/price ratio card, of course when the aftermarket will be released and I'm saying that from the whole perspective of high-end cards 290X included.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Nice Card!

 

[imaheadcase]

got one locked down from Tiger Direct but i'm f5 spamming newegg just in case. I bummed about the newly enforced amazon MA sales tax law as I was about to get 3.99 next day shipping. $750 for the card really didn't appeal to me =(

Keep in mind that evga one on tigerdirect does not show overlock cores, i would confirm before ordering. $699 sounds baseline vs OC one.

 

[moonbogg]

BF4 never goes over 2GB at 1080p. I know, I have 2GB cards. The way you bounce around between hating on nvidia and going all amd to "I will stay with what I have for now" to "nVidia sucks I will have 2x 290s soon" I just dunno how to respond. I'll just tell you that I run BF4 at 2560x1440 everything ultra with 2xmsaa and do not run out of vram.

I know, its an emotional roller coaster. What can I say, I like GPU drama.

EDIT: But seriously, if I don't stay with what I got, the i'll get two 290's. Unless the 780 drops in price. But then it needs more ram, so 290's it is, but i'll wait for better coolers. And if I wait then I might as well wait for 20nm. Get it?

 

[rtsurfer]

It was a GTX Titan owners thread somewhere on this forum. You can try searching for it, it is somewhere here.

Right here. Although I don't have the time to read the whole thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2320731

Could you search and give me some posts, because it was you who was using it to make your point.

I skimmed the overclockers.net 780/Titan owners thread. Couldn't find much about temperatures.

 

[ams23]

Why would they suddenly go from counting watts, to opening up the wallet to splurge on an overpriced video card (780ti)? A little inconsistency is what I am pointing out, don't bring heat/noise into it. If they are not penny pinchers why would they care about a few watts?

Now you are making zero sense. What does price have to do with power consumption? Price can be manipulated as chosen by the company and by the retailer. Reviewers and consumers care about power consumption, performance, features, noise, heat, AND price. If someone has a budget up to $700, they prefer to use single GPU's (as most people do), they game at 25x16 or 19x12 resolutions with high details, they don't want something excessively loud or very hot or very power consuming, and they want the highest performance single GPU available today, they will get a GTX 780 Ti, period. And for people who are willing to spend more than $700 and want a single GPU, surely there will be higher performance variants of GTX 780 Ti still to come.

 

[lavaheadache]

Keep in mind that evga one on tigerdirect does not show overlock cores, i would confirm before ordering. $699 sounds baseline vs OC one.

yeah, I'm seeing that. $20 is too much for the factory oc considering that I'm just gonna bios flash it anyway.

hoping to see cards show up on newegg in ~5 mins