GTX 780 Ti reviews

[Subyman]

Given how mature the node is, and the 780 Ti not being anything new the other possibility is that unlike AMD Nvidia actually had considerable stock to provide to retailers.


Card costs far too much for me, but the overclocking capabilities while remaining quiter than the 290x in uber are hard to ignore. It's truly the fastest card and the greater feat of engineering. The cooler is even better it seems, and definitely something AMD needs to aspire to.

It was obvious Nvidia had these things sitting in a warehouse while they soaked up $650 780 sales until AMD could release their product.

Nvidia staffer: "Well, AMD released their cards and they compete with Titan."
Nvidia suit: "Start shipping those full 780's that have been in storage for the last year."

That's why I haven't purchased nvidias GK110 series of cards. The way they trickled out the GK110 soured me to the cards.

 

[Saylick]

It was obvious Nvidia had these things sitting in a warehouse while they soaked up $650 780 sales until AMD could release their product.

Nvidia staffer: "Well, AMD released their cards and they compete with Titan."
Nvidia suit: "Start shipping those full 780's that have been in storage for the last year."

That's why I haven't purchased nvidias GK110 series of cards. The way they trickled out the GK110 soured me to the cards.

If you're going to go that far, you might as well mention how GK104 was released as the high-end first, when it was clearly their medium-sized chip, before they released GK110 and its derivatives. I'm not disagreeing with you at all, though. nVidia has been milking the heck out of their high-end all the time, every time, which I find baffling in that there are enough people with deep enough pockets whose purchase of these cards enables nVidia to keep up their pricing strategy generation after generation.

 

[tg2708]

It was obvious Nvidia had these things sitting in a warehouse while they soaked up $650 780 sales until AMD could release their product.

Nvidia staffer: "Well, AMD released their cards and they compete with Titan."
Nvidia suit: "Start shipping those full 780's that have been in storage for the last year."

That's why I haven't purchased nvidias GK110 series of cards. The way they trickled out the GK110 soured me to the cards.

Yup I share this exact thought.

 

[Elfear]

I think the 290x is already irrelevant and will remain so until it receive a $100 price reduction.

Problem for the 290x is water is showing it isn't going to benefit much from aftermarket, a 10-15% gain from OC is about all we can expect but with better acoustics and thermals of course.

I don't know about that. Results seem pretty decent so far.

This guy bought 6 cards. One does 1320-1340Mhz on water. The other ones will do 1250-1280Mhz (not sure if that was on water or not).

Here is a Valley run from the same guy at 1330/1600. 81.7FPS which is very good for an AMD card.

This guy hit 1270/1500.

1320/1492 on water

1250Mhz seems pretty easy on water with some guys clocking in the 1300+ range. Of course YMMV, but I'd say 10-15% is low-balling it on water.

 

[OCGuy]

I don't know about that. Results seem pretty decent so far.

This guy bought 6 cards. One does 1320-1340Mhz on water. The other ones will do 1250-1280Mhz (not sure if that was on water or not).

Here is a Valley run from the same guy at 1330/1600. 81.7FPS which is very good for an AMD card.

This guy hit 1270/1500.

1320/1492 on water

1250Mhz seems pretty easy on water with some guys clocking in the 1300+ range. Of course YMMV, but I'd say 10-15% is low-balling it on water.

Any good reviews on how much voltage these cards are pulling when they are that high?

AIB partners will stick to PCI spec.

 

[Firestorm007]

O RLY?



http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35710695&postcount=299

LOL. You crack me up with your constant I'm holier then thou syndrome. That's all you spout out.

Anyhow, the 780i is a nice card, but overpriced in my opinion and too little too late.:sneaky:

 

[Cloudfire777]

Again,

R9 290/GTX 780 for the people looking to save money while having a really good graphic card. R9 290 should be the preferred choice for multi card setups due to better scaling. However for those who care about acoustics (ie noise) should water cool 290, wait for any OEM to release 290 or buy GTX 780.

GTX 780 Ti for the people who want the best card out there and doesn`t care about perf/$.

R9 290X is pretty much dead in the water.

/thread

 

[Tempered81]

Again

GTX 780 Ti for the people who want the best card out there and doesn`t care about perf/$.

R9 290X is pretty much dead in the water.

/thread

/thread? Hrm. Going by Anandtech 780Ti review. Thread re-opened!

 

[OCGuy]

I'm just not sure that is any more relevant than how the card performs while in a submarine....I mean why would you want someone to base their decision off something that doesn't apply to them? Very strange.

This is just between MM setups from the Steam survey:

Every review except one or two that I have comes to the same conclusion......including AT's:

With that in mind, with the release of the GeForce GTX 780 Ti NVIDIA is once more left solidly in control of the single-GPU performance crown. It won’t quite get to claim a massive performance advantage over its closest competitors, but at the end of the day it’s going to be faster than any other single-GPU card out there. This will break down to being 11% faster than Radeon R9 290X, 9% faster than GTX Titan, and a full 20% faster than the original GTX 780 that it formally replaces.

http://anandtech.com/show/7492/the-geforce-gtx-780-ti-review/17

 

[Elfear]

Any good reviews on how much voltage these cards are pulling when they are that high?

AIB partners will stick to PCI spec.

I don't think any of the AIB cards will be clocked that high from the factory but I'm thinking most will allow voltage control just like Tahiti (although that practice tapered off after awhile). Which means you'll be able to clock the cards as high as the custom cooler will allow.

 

[Tempered81]

That is "Ultra HD" where the 290X has such a strong lead. Some people just like having the best performance. The 780Ti is definitely the best the low resolutions though.

 

[OCGuy]

That is "Ultra HD" where the 290X has such a strong lead. Some people just like having the best performance. The 780Ti is definitely the best the low resolutions though.

I agree...anyone coming to AT with a 3XXX x XXXX resolution asking which card is faster should be recommended the 290x.

 

[AdamK47]

The 512-bit memory bus does help out quite a bit at high resolutions.

 

[Carfax83]

The 512-bit memory bus does help out quite a bit at high resolutions.

I thought it was a driver bug that was crippling NVidia's performance at UHD? The 780 Ti has more bandwidth than the 290x, so it should do pretty well at high rez..

 

[bunnyfubbles]

The 512-bit memory bus does help out quite a bit at high resolutions.

the 780 Ti has only 384 bit bus, but the memory is clocked a lot higher and thus actually achieves a higher memory bandwidth, 336.4 GB/s vs. 320 GB/s. Now while I haven't had time delve into the technical workings of the chips, I'd assume Hawaii's ROP advantage (64 vs 48) is what is allowing it to humble Kepler at ultra high resolutions.

 

[rgallant]

I imagine they are aware of that. They just want one of their cards on the top of the charts. But, from their vantage point they probably are looking at the fact that the 780 Ti is faster than the Titan...so $700 is not asking too much even though it has less Ram.

That said, as the other poster pointed out...the R290 is the best value for AMD, and the 780 OCs are the best value for Nvidia (for the high end cards, that is). That is probably how it was designed from the outset.

who cares if $1600 of cards [sli]come to a stop IF next gen of games @1440 tax gpu's more than 8yr. old ported AAA games as long as they are nv cards[nv ftw]
getting pissed off at nv for releasing their highest top end cards low vram HIGH end CARDS CRIPPLED BY vram

have to say wgf what the benches say with new gen. games coming -er new paradigm folks in what less than 60 days.

 

[el etro]

Dual Hawaii?

Yea....not going to happen.

So you don't read the articles....

 

[rgallant]

So people with 1GB of VRAM are doing fine on November 8th, 2013, but magically 3GB will be a bottleneck in 18 months?


Ehhhhh.....that would leave 99% of gamers with a card that cant handle new games. Not going to happen.

yea but is the game neffing the setting detecting a card with 1 gb of vram [even in tri ?]
and all benches were done with q1 2014 next gen. games of course.I know I always buy $1.5+k cards based on vram based on old ports and the new next gen. ones are 60 days out.
-why buy a card for next months games ,when the benches show xxx card faster with old ported games today right ?

a person with a x2 1 gb card max's the game are they seeing the same image on the screen if both peeps have the same systems except for 1 that has 4gb of vram @ 1440-1600?

 

[3DVagabond]

What nvidia is doing is ensuring their brand is always the top performing.

Well, they just fired their biggest gun and AMD still has a couple of rounds chambered up.

 

[3DVagabond]

Why do i feel like you are talking about me? oh well, i bought my 780's used at the current price point. No harm no foul. Got my Ti a couple hours ago just before i left for work. I look forward to running it hard tonight.

You are a bit different. You definitely aren't a fanboy of one brand or the other that just can't wait for the next biggest thing from AMD or nVidia and rub it in people's faces.

 

[3DVagabond]

I think 780Ti will become irrelevant, except to ultra enthusiast market(you can read this as "Titan owners"), once the custom models of 290x come to market. Custom 290x launch will be the next round of the battle(The last round will be Dual Hawaii vs Dual GK110).

I really hope they don't try to stick two of either chip on one board.

 

[lavaheadache]

You are a bit different. You definitely aren't a fanboy of one brand or the other that just can't wait for the next biggest thing from AMD or nVidia and rub it in people's faces.

:\

 

[3DVagabond]

^You aren't buying it because it's the fastest nVidia card and it beats the fastest AMD card so you can run around telling everyone that the AMD card is suxor, or vice versa. You are buying it purely because you are a video card enthusiast not a fanboy.

I hope that makes sense.

 

[lavaheadache]

Reading fail on my part

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I don't know about that. Results seem pretty decent so far.

This guy bought 6 cards. One does 1320-1340Mhz on water. The other ones will do 1250-1280Mhz (not sure if that was on water or not).

Here is a Valley run from the same guy at 1330/1600. 81.7FPS which is very good for an AMD card.

This guy hit 1270/1500.

1320/1492 on water

1250Mhz seems pretty easy on water with some guys clocking in the 1300+ range. Of course YMMV, but I'd say 10-15% is low-balling it on water.

I was addressing aftermarket air, 1.3-1.4 volts on 290 series for air doesn't strike me as practical.

There are benefits of lower voltage at similar clocks it won't enjoy when these results are transitioned back to air, I think 10-15% while maintaining acceptable noise levels for aftermarket air is a pretty good estimate, that is 1100 to 1150 MHz which is not at all dissimilar to Tahiti on aftermarket air though of course there are some better some worse, but generally benchmark figures aren't really applicable to general gaming at least they weren't for me with my cards.