GTX 780 Ti reviews

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ocre

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ABT is a joke, I wouldn't waste your time. Its owner hasn't the first clue about hardware and got laughed off these forums (which says A LOT, really). I'm not sure why people post its content here besides for laughs.


I don't really trust that guy at all - the anti AMD stuff he spews on his forum would be cool for an average person, i'd have no problem with it. But it isn't what I expect from a reviewer. Certainly if Ryan Smith did the same thing on this forum it would raise eyebrows. Or Ryan Shrout - if he came here spewing anti AMD garbage 24/7 would it cause alarms? Yeah, yeah it would. Some of the stuff that guy has done should not be done by any professional that wants to be taken seriously.

As a preface, I think the 780ti is a downright superior product and it is absolutely faster than the 290X, especially Oc to OC. I also vastly prefer nvidia these days over AMD for delivering a more complete and better user experience.

That said, some of those games should not perform higher by that margin on NV hardware. These games have been shown time and time again to favor AMD hardware, so I do agree that some of it is suspect. I basically don't trust that guy to give honest reviews based on the garbage i've seen him spew, he isn't objective or professional. Period. I really wouldn't put it past him to fudge numbers either. I think I saw on his site a long time ago, crysis numbers higher on a 680 than a 7970, which basically doesn't happen since crysis 1 / WH favors AMD by a big margin. Basically, take anything and everything from that guy with a grain of salt IMHO.

have you seen the sheer amount of graphics cards and benchmarks that were ran? Did you also notice that the 290x beats titan (or as just as fast) in ubber mode? What more would you expect?

There may be many of you that take up personal issues with apoppin but there are very very few people in this world that have put out such a massive undertaking. I mean, who are you to criticize so fast and disregard with what? Your opinion? I mean, where is your 30+ benchmark/game (multiple configurations) review with 15 unique GPUs and settings?

Surely we should just take opinion as fact here huh. You may not like apoppin but dont let your emotions blind you. This is one large data set and just like linus says, there are 100 different other review sites if you prefer looking at the graphs where only AMD wins in. I mean go to H and see a whopping 3 games if thats what your into. A very detailed conclusion drawn from just about thin air, i really dont care. But dont be so disrespectful to someone's massive review just because you dont like him?

And for what is this reason you dont like him? He talked about AMD? What exactly was his issue with AMD? Is that something you condone? Marketeering/advocating for AMD without disclosure? Surely you guys arent cool with that, are you? I mean, have you not yourself seen advocates in action? Is there really something wrong with not wanting stealth marketing? Well that was were it all started. Then the big uproar and back in forth came. People calling names because they just couldnt accept that AMD would have such a program. Ironically there have been several people caught in the act now, and apoppin wasnt as wrong inhis original claims as you guys might have wanted him to be. Granted, that doesnt make up for his bickering and name calling. But he went into defense mode as there were many many many people attacking him, he was attacking back. It got out of hand.

I am not saying anyone should forgive apoppin and i am not asking that. Surely the guy didnt go out to buy a 290x and make up a fake review. The guy has spent the last week, day and night running benchmark after benchmark-setting after setting, GPU after GPU. You may not like the games he picked or the settings he used. You may not like them but they are clearly labeled. It is raw data, and it is real data. Say what you will about the settings but apoppin did not make up a fake review. He went out and bought a 290x and done a huge review (more than most of you will ever do). This is the results he got. There a a hundred other reviews with a million different settings if you do not like the ones he used.

The abt doesnt make up numbers, i am sorry if you do not like the results, This is real data. Why dont you go back and read all of the 290x articles. While Toms was claiming 290x retails throttle, apoppin said his card almost never throttles in ubber. While anandtech reviews in quite, apoppin defaults ubber. Then all of sudden, apoppin is making up (overclocked) numbers to make nvidia look better? rubbish. those are emotionally driven and uncalled for claims. There are many many other ways he could have went if he was making stuff up and out to sabotage the 290x. Much more devastating and easy targets ripe for the taking.

You may not like apoppin but his numbers are real
 
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BallaTheFeared

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It's a review site like any other we link.

Are you concerned about the publicity TPU and others get from graph hotlinking?

ABT was the first site to expose AMDs viral marketing which obviously didn't go over well on a website that has them.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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4th from the bottom is Metro LL, it was benched with PhysX on however which is a problem for the AMD system since the CPU is forced to do the work whereas with Nvidia the 780 Ti is rendering and doing PhysX.
 

Gikaseixas

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I don't mind ABT at all. It's another source of information for us and while Appopin's results seem strange it's mainly due to AMD's crappy cooler. He re-test once proper coolers are released .
 

MrK6

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[WALL OF TEXT OMITTED]

You may not like apoppin but his numbers are real
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That's the problem, and hence why I made my comment. I don't care who apoppin is: I don't know him personally and I have nothing against him personally, nor do I care that you are BFF's. What I do know is what his posting history has been, the numerous screw ups and inconsistencies he has made in testing, ranting posts, understanding hardware, overclocking hardware, etc. I really don't care how much time and effort he put into a review if the results are worthless due to his demeanor and history. There's no "A for effort" in the real world.

For the record, there are plenty of other review websites that I take with a grain of salt as well, AT video card reviews is one of them.

This isn't ABT, who cares? Why do they get free publicity here every few months?
Heck if I know.
 

Erenhardt

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I see nice overclocks on 780Ti. Good to see overclocking is a THING back again after being unreliable 'luck of draw' in hd7000 series era
 

mode101wpb

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So it fairs well with Metro: LL, can I assume that a 780 Ti will be a single card solution, with no need for going dual GPU? Take into point 1080p will be my native resolution for the next year or so, when and if 1440p monitors drop in price, I may step up.

Reason I am asking I am still on the fence with a new Mobo purchase planning for dual GPU in another year, also do not want too much HP for 1080p that will be wasted. Judgeing by those benchmarks, 1080p on high settings is idea with the 780 Ti.
 

l2ez4m

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It's the same like testing 290x only in Quiet mode or turning off Mantle in future releases.
Those features are integral parts of the equation and can't be disregarded if we want to be unbiased.
 

skipsneeky2

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I see nice overclocks on 780Ti. Good to see overclocking is a THING back again after being unreliable 'luck of draw' in hd7000 series era

The overclocking capabilities of the 7970 when first released was what had me buying one. Was able to overclock that card to over 1200 core @1.25v and this was a reference msi model.

Wish i had kept that 7970, i was one of the people having the sleep issue on earlier drivers and it was annoying enough to ditch the card but overall today it would prob lay the smack down on my 770 assuming both had max overclocks.
 

blackened23

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Yeah. I think the original reference 7970 was a great OC'er - my reference cards which I bought at launched OC'ed crazy high. I was pretty shocked, TBH. After the GE editions were released, though, everything went down the drain. Most the GE edition cards were voltage locked and didn't clock over stock as well as the original ref 7970.

And yeah I hear you on the annoying launch software problems of the 7970. I still liked that card a LOT, but the software situation in the first few months were EF'ed. No WHQL driver till March? 3 months after release, IIRC...it was pretty stupid. It seems like the 290X doesn't have the software issues that the 7970 did, but has other issues instead....and, I've said my opinions on that matter a few times. It's just not as good of an overall experience as is the GTX 780/780ti, although it's good that AMD didn't botch the software for the 290. Seems they improved in that respect by a lot but got worse in other areas...
 
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Firestorm007

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Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That's the problem, and hence why I made my comment. I don't care who apoppin is: I don't know him personally and I have nothing against him personally, nor do I care that you are BFF's. What I do know is what his posting history has been, the numerous screw ups and inconsistencies he has made in testing, ranting posts, understanding hardware, overclocking hardware, etc. I really don't care how much time and effort he put into a review if the results are worthless due to his demeanor and history. There's no "A for effort" in the real world.

For the record, there are plenty of other review websites that I take with a grain of salt as well, AT video card reviews is one of them.


Heck if I know.

Spot on! :thumbsup:
 
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What does that mean exactly? This isn't HardOCP either, why do we post their results?

The difference is the editor at [H] hasn't been known to openly bash everything AMD related repeatedly on forums. One is clearly biased, the other is highly respected.

ie. Would YOU trust Semiaccurate if they did benchmark reviews?? Exactly..
 
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