GTX 960 is expected to launch next month.

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skipsneeky2

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Anyway, here are some pics of after-market Zotac, Asus, EVGA 960s:
http://videocardz.com/54374/asus-evga-and-zotac-geforce-gtx-960-pictured

Liking the looks of the Zotac 960 Amp! the most,simple single 6 pin card with 2 fans and a backplate.Hard to go wrong there.Like that look more then the 970 Amp!.Maybe it won't overclock to the moon but casuals may flock to that one,i know i would perhaps at the right price if i was in the market for one.

Idk what it is but the Zotac cards really try and be quite interesting,few months there's gonna be a single 6 pin 7'' long 970 debuting from them coming out.
 

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I also have some interesting news from Hermitage Akihabara. Turns out they have listed a retail price of $250 to $300 for various AIBs. Add that to the fact that my source revealed that a GTX 960 in Thailand costs $313 and you have a very alarming coincidence. It could just be utterly wonky import duties and introductory prices but I have a hunch we might be looking at a price tag upwards or equal to $250, which would diminish some of the value this card has.
Source.

So, who's buying it ? D:
 

skipsneeky2

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Please be $250 just so I can tell everyone in this thread I was right.

Pricing this thing at $250 would be insane,unless there is some black magic where performance touches the 290 then you still are being gimped by 2gb.

No way in hell is nvidia that freaking bold to run that price,hell i may switch from a 970 to a 290 in my upgrade just on principle if they gouge the 960 like that.
 
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Pricing this thing at $250 would be insane,unless there is some black magic where performance touches the 290 then you still are being gimped by 2gb.

No way in hell is nvidia that freaking bold to run that price,hell i may switch from a 970 to a 290 in my upgrade just on principle if they gouge the 960 like that.

If its $250, NV believes their marketing dominance has succeeded and the sheep no longer understand the concept of performance per dollar. It would seem NV products are judged by other esoteric intangibles that are beyond measure.

Edit: Actually, considering its ~770 performance with lower watts & additional features, slotting it in at whatever the 770 went for is the goal. Intel does it all the time, pathetic incremental performance gains at the same price, why can't NV? Right?!
 
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el etro

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If the price of the card is set at $200 point like Wccf suggests, it will be a very good value, better value than the competition. But at technical point of view, the card still don't impresses much.
 

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Pricing this thing at $250 would be insane,unless there is some black magic where performance touches the 290 then you still are being gimped by 2gb.

No way in hell is nvidia that freaking bold to run that price,hell i may switch from a 970 to a 290 in my upgrade just on principle if they gouge the 960 like that.

Why would you care and why would you downgrade that terribly? Make no sense
 

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If its $250, NV believes their marketing dominance has succeeded and the sheep no longer understand the concept of performance per dollar. It would seem NV products are judged by other esoteric intangibles that are beyond measure.

Edit: Actually, considering its ~770 performance with lower watts & additional features, slotting it in at whatever the 770 went for is the goal. Intel does it all the time, pathetic incremental performance gains at the same price, why can't NV? Right?!

Interesting comment, considering it was NV that released the 970 @ $300? was it, and forced AMD to drop their 290 prices!
 

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Interesting comment, considering it was NV that released the 970 @ $300? was it, and forced AMD to drop their 290 prices!

You forgot Titan, Titan Z or gtx780ti, and how R9 290/290x effected those bizarre prices.
it's a cycle, new gpu comes out,prices drops for the older ones, it's not a big deal.
and GTX970 released for $300?
it was $330-$350 on planet earth.
sigh..This thread is getting way offtopic now.
 

skipsneeky2

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Why would you care and why would you downgrade that terribly? Make no sense

It isn't exactly a downgrade if i haven't upgraded yet,been looking around at 290 and 970 cards.

290 and 970 offer their performance at their price ranges,both which are good.Hopefully 960 does this as well.

Half the people in here have who have participated in this thread have cards way better then what the 960 could ever be,i think enough people care cause more people care about this price segment where the 960 should be then the 290/970/290x/980.
 
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Retailers in Asia/Oceania are launching the 960 on the 23rd, in a few days time. So those reviews should be in soon.
 

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Interesting comment, considering it was NV that released the 970 @ $300? was it, and forced AMD to drop their 290 prices!

GTX280 $650 launch price
HD4870 $299

GTX780 $650
R9 290 $399

HD7970 $549
GTX680 $499

R9 280X $299
770 4GB $399

Before 970 launched, GTX780 3GB was going for $450 roughly and 780 6GB was $550 vs. $350-380 R9 290s.

GTX970 $329 MSRP, but most after-market cards worth buying are all $350+.

So basically when NV undercut AMD, it was by $50-70, but when AMD undercut NV, it's by $150-350. Also, while AMD undercuts NV for many long months, when NV does it, AMD quickly readjusted pricing. 7970Ghz undercut 680 2-4GB for most of its life, while the same is true for R9 290 vs. a 780/970.

Right now in Canada, you can pick up an after-market 290 for $280 CDN. If NV sets a $199 USD MSRP on a 960, it will probably be $230-240 CDN in retail. $50 CDN more for double the VRAM + Mantle and near 970 level of performance? That's not even up for a debate in my books. If a 1024CUDA/32ROP/128-bit/2GB 960 is $249 USD, that's an EPIC failure of a card. :sneaky: I think NV will launch it at $199 and leave 960Ti with 1280 CUDAs and 192-bit/3GB at $249, at least one would hope for this.

Please be $250 just so I can tell everyone in this thread I was right.

If people actually buy a 960 with the specs I just listed above at $249, I will agree with Silverforce that mid-range NV's buyers are completely brand brain-washed. I wouldn't be surprised though as I've seen people pick a 670 2GB over a 7970 1Ghz, 760 over a 280X or pay $80-100 more for a 970 with a slow AMD/Intel CPU, meaning the performance advantage over a 290 is basically non-existent on their CPU bottlenecked system.
 
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skipsneeky2

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The only thing interesting about the 960 is its power consumption,that is it lol.Assuming the VC article comes out being true.Slower then 770,hairline faster then a 760.Meh!
 

Magic Carpet

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The only thing interesting about the 960 is its power consumption,that is it lol.Assuming the VC article comes out being true.Slower then 770,hairline faster then a 760.Meh!
I am afraid, this is a "750 ti" card of today. Excellent power efficiency, but let's face it, it's just not good enough to be a viable gaming GPU purchase in 2015, even at $199. I remember how wicked GTX 460 was on its release day. Shoulda been "950 ti" really. Nvidia screw up naming big time. Oh well, AMD seems to follow suit. Wish we had a third player.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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I hope they at least throw in a free game with this overpriced crap. Oh my god if this sells for $250.
 

skipsneeky2

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I hope they at least throw in a free game with this overpriced crap. Oh my god if this sells for $250.

I keep on thinking about that G1 Gaming cooler on that card lol. I rest my case on it being severely overkill.Are any of the after market 970 cards besides the Zotac maybe effected by thermals before being power limited when it comes to overclocking?

Still may fun to see how that cooler does with that low power consumption.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I keep on thinking about that G1 Gaming cooler on that card lol. I rest my case on it being severely overkill.Are any of the after market 970 cards besides the Zotac maybe effected by thermals before being power limited when it comes to overclocking?

Still may fun to see how that cooler does with that low power consumption.

Haha, probably not since the throttle temp is supposed to be what, 98*C for the 970?
 

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I just don't get this card when 280x's are available around $200 and even the best 290s can be found for $260AR most of the time.
 

Magic Carpet

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I just don't get this card when 280x's are available around $200 and even the best 290s can be found for $260AR most of the time.
Wait for comments like:

- Hey, but it uses less power.
- Perfect for ~300w PSUs.
- But it has a green badge all over
- etc
 
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