GTX 970 and GTX 980 is officially launched

[swilli89]

Are you guys not tired of buying 28nm cards?

You know its 28nm because the manufacturer told you its 28nm. They could say its 5nm or 90nm and you or I wouldn't know the difference. Same thing goes people bitching about internal code words like GM204 and such. Those are all intangibles that we as consumers just happen to know.

There are two things that consumers need to know: price and performance. You have just been given a lot more performance per price just like every other good graphics card release. What are you so tired of again?

 

[3DVagabond]

You know its 28nm because the manufacturer told you its 28nm. They could say its 5nm or 90nm and you or I wouldn't know the difference. Same thing goes people bitching about internal code words like GM204 and such. Those are all intangibles that we as consumers just happen to know.

There are two things that consumers need to know: price and performance. You have just been given a lot more performance per price just like every other good graphics card release. What are you so tired of again?

For someone like Karlitos it's not really any more performance. He already has quad Hawaii. We haven't seen any comparisons yet, but I'd be surprised if there's any performance gains for him.

 

[ShintaiDK]

There are two things that consumers need to know: price and performance. You have just been given a lot more performance per price just like every other good graphics card release. What are you so tired of again?

I would say there is 3 things. price, performance and power consumption.

But else its completely right. Whatever the diesize is or whatever node its made on is fairly irrelevant for the enduser.

 

[wand3r3r]

Gigabyte must have made some improvements? It seems like they cheaped out on the r9 or 780/ti coolers or at least there were some complaints about gigabyte cards.

 

[SeanJ76]

What a let down, no 20nm tech, not able to surpass the 780ti in gaming or benchmarks, oh but wait its 10 less watts of power!!! OMG 10 less watts of power!!! The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......

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[toyota]

What a let down, no 20nm tech, not able to surpass the 780ti in gaming or benchmarks, oh but wait its 10 less watts of power!!! OMG 10 less watts of power!!! The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......

you have made it clear numerous times that you don't care for the cards. I think everyone is sick of your childish drama. not to mention all of your inaccurate comments and wrongly configured benchmarks.

 

[AdamK47]

What a let down, no 20nm tech, not able to surpass the 780ti in gaming or benchmarks, oh but wait its 10 less watts of power!!! OMG 10 less watts of power!!! The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......

I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from, but you may want to try an alternate source.

 

[Tweak155]

I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from, but you may want to try an alternate source.

From himself. He's pretty much just trying to justify why he should keep his cards.

 

[swilli89]

I would say there is 3 things. price, performance and power consumption.

But else its completely right. Whatever the diesize is or whatever node its made on is fairly irrelevant for the enduser.

Yeah I was including power consumption, noise etc in "performance".

 

[2is]

While it is a bit of a bummer that we're still on 28nm, I'm very impressed at how far nVidia has managed to stretch the manufacturing process in all metrics. Power consumption, performance, heat/noise. The compute performance of the 980 compared to my aging 680 is ridiculous.

 

[Jurge92]

Anyone know when the EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0 will be available in Europe?
All the stores only sells the 1.0 as far as I'm aware of...

 

[beginner99]

Is the GTX-970 enough for 2560x1440 + high fps? All reviews I see use high/ultra settings. Are there any reviews that use lesser settings like high so I can see how it fares with lower settings?

 

[Keysplayr]

What a let down, no 20nm tech, not able to surpass the 780ti in gaming or benchmarks, oh but wait its 10 less watts of power!!! OMG 10 less watts of power!!! The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......

Ok, here are some corrections for you and I hope it sinks in a little.
Let me first start by saying your rig with SLI'd 770s is very nice.
Now here we go, piece by piece.

"No 20nm tech" - Dissappointing but at the same time impressive to stay on 28nm and get this kind of performance per watt gain.

"not able to surpass the 780Ti in gaming or benchmarks" - 970 just about equals the 780Ti and 980 bests 780Ti by 5-20% depending on the game.

"oh but wait its 10 less watts of power!!! OMG 10 less watts of power!!!"
If by 10 watts of power you meant 85watts(980) or 105watts (970) from 780Ti, then you'd be a lot more accurate. No idea where you got 10watts from. I'm assuming you meant 780Ti because that is the last GPU you named before you said the above.

"The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......"
Show us via a hyperlink where you are getting this information from please.

To answer the questions you are probably agonizing over....
You spent your money wisely because you got what you wanted and a kick butt gaming system. You wouldn't benefit from switching to a 970 or 980. 970/80 SLI might be a different story.

Finally, don't bash on 970/980 just because you aren't sure about your own purchase judgement on the 770s you have. You bought them, they are awesome GPUs. Be happy. Go game.

 

[Keysplayr]

Is the GTX-970 enough for 2560x1440 + high fps? All reviews I see use high/ultra settings. Are there any reviews that use lesser settings like high so I can see how it fares with lower settings?

Logic suggests that whatever setting you lower from the reviews you've seen, the fps "should" go up from the numbers you saw. Right?
You'd be hard pressed though to find a reviewer that wasn't trying to push these cards as hard as possible. HardOCP does a "best playable" bench along with an "apples to apples" comparison. Might help you.

 

[Sable]

"The 970 Uses 2% less wattage than the 770 SC ACX......hardly a reason to go out and buy another 28nm process......"
Show us via a hyperlink where you are getting this information from please.

I also love this one. The 970 is MILES FASTER for 2% less wattage.

 

[Borealis7]

i ,for one, have sworn not to buy a 28nm gpu again since i own a GTX680 but damn the 970 is tempting. nearly 50% faster than the GTX680. on the down side, this release really took a dump on the resale value of my card, so i'm going to hold on to it until 20nm cards arrive.

 

[CakeMonster]

680? The people here will justify just about any upgrade, but 680 is a pretty obvious one both for performance and bang for the bucks.

 

[ShintaiDK]

i ,for one, have sworn not to buy a 28nm gpu again since i own a GTX680 but damn the 970 is tempting. nearly 50% faster than the GTX680. on the down side, this release really took a dump on the resale value of my card, so i'm going to hold on to it until 20nm cards arrive.

I went GTX680->GTX980.

60-100% performance. Lower powerdraw, much more quiet (I use blower fans due to MiniITX.)

Absolutely worth it for me.

 

[BrightCandle]

2x680s however would need to go to 2x 980's, otherwise you would be going backwards in performance.

 

[dangerman1337]

I went GTX680->GTX980.

60-100% performance. Lower powerdraw, much more quiet (I use blower fans due to MiniITX.)

Absolutely worth it for me.

What resolution and what games? I'm on a MSI Twin Frozr 7950 but not sure if I should get a 970 or 980 soon and sell my current one for £90-£100 here in the UK (hopefully my 7950 is in somewhat good condition and can flog it off for said price). Would be my last upgrade (along with an SSD) for my current PC and then get a new high-end whole PC for 4K/VR in late 2016/early 2017 (don't need to buy a monitor straight after since Nvidia's new down-sampling thing).

 

[wand3r3r]

According to http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_Cooler/25.html it's a 45% gain 680->970 and 60% gain 680->980 at 1080p/1600p across the range of games they tested. (not exactly 60-100% where did he get that?)

A solid upgrade, of course a cheap 680 would get you there or the better perf/$ card the 970 would be a lot cheaper.

 

[exar333]

According to http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_Cooler/25.html it's a 45% gain 680->980 at 1080p/1600p across the range of games they tested. (not exactly 60-100% where did he get that?)

A solid upgrade, but SLI would bring you more for cheap if you don't want to buy a 970 now.

I could see 60-100% if you were running games that hit the 2GB memory ceiling. Otherwise the 45% figure sounds about right for 1080P/1600P games. The 4K performance gains appear to be much greater than 45% though.

 

[96Firebird]

According to http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_Cooler/25.html it's a 45% gain 680->980 at 1080p/1600p across the range of games they tested. (not exactly 60-100% where did he get that?)

A solid upgrade, but SLI would bring you more for cheap if you don't want to buy a 970 now.

Unless my math is wrong, 110%/69% = 59% (1600p)...

 

[Qwertilot]

Not sli in a mini itx box

These things really are truly excellent for small and/or very quiet machines. Wonder what the chances of a short length 970 are? Power draw seems more or less manageable.

 

[Dylanharvey999]

I have a GTX 680 and am still scratching my head at the thought of upgrading for 1080p.