GTX 970 and GTX 980 is officially launched

[raghu78]

It's party time, folks! This is serious performance at reasonable prices, and every video card on the market over $250 is obsolete.

well said. with the GTX 960 next month likely to launch at USD 229 - USD 249 every GPU at and above $200 would be obsolete.

Remains to be seen whether AMD, board partners, and retailers can react fast enough to keep Radeons relevant.

I don't think it matters. Nvidia will sell every GM204 they can make at record margins. Nvidia will be making a 400 sq mm chip instead of the 550 sq mm GK110 based GTX 780 series and a 294 sq mm GK104 GTX 770. For the same wafer supply I think Nvidia will make more chips and gain market share. If Nvidia can increase wafer allocation we could see AMD drop to below 30% overall market share quickly.

Edit - from HardOCP: "In addition to the movement in price for the GTX 760, NVIDIA has explained to us that the GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, and GeForce GTX 770 are going discontinued as of this launch."

Source: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...eforce_gtx_980_video_card_review#.VBudgvldWHA

makes perfect sense. When you can increase margins and supply more chips due to a smaller die size why sell the bigger chips. imo Maxwell GM204 is the most impressive chip by Nvidia ever beating the 8800 GT primarily because Nvidia achieved this without a process node transition.

 

[96Firebird]

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*Image of "leaked" results*

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/25.html

I'm really hoping this isn't a pseudo paper launch and I can grab one tomorrow...

 

[RaistlinZ]

This is insane. 970 SLI at $660.00 outperforms the 295x2 at $1,000.00

970 SLI come to daddy!

 

[JDG1980]

I thought the R9 295 X2 might weather the assault, but it didn't. Two GTX 970s (total price $660) is nearly as powerful as a R9 295 X2 at 4K and 5760x1080. So the Nvidia solution now costs $340 less than AMD's flagship card. Granted, the AMD solution gives you a nice watercooler and a single-card layout, so it still makes sense for if you're building in a Bitfenix Prodigy or something like that, but the pair of GTX 970s uses far less power. I think AMD will have to drop the R9 295 X2 to $549-$599 for it to be competitive again.

 

[Termie]

TechPowerUp concludes its 980 review in style:

"Simply put, GTX 980 is the premium product to GTX 970, and you'll have to pay for that. NVIDIA has declared GTX 780 Ti, GTX 780 and GTX 770 end-of-life, which means you might be able to find those cards at discounted prices. Personally I wouldn't upgrade from anything more recent than GTX 680, but users of older cards should definitely look at NVIDIA's new products. Oh, and AMD seems f****d."

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/31.html

 

[DiogoDX]

Its out in retail channels here in AUS, exactly same price as 780 & 780ti that its replacing.

970 = ~$520 and 980 = $800.

Ridiculous compared to the USA prices. heh

Cheaper 780Ti ~ $1000

Cheaper 290X ~ $900

Welcome to Brazil.:\

 

[Chaoticlusts]

Its out in retail channels here in AUS, exactly same price as 780 & 780ti that its replacing.

970 = ~$520 and 980 = $800.

Ridiculous compared to the USA prices. heh

Those are the day zero prices, Aus tax won't be that bad for them. There's already a second shop with them listed for $459 and $739 respectively. Might want to wait until there's more than 2 stores in the country selling them before we find out how bad we get shafted by Australia tax

 

[Keysplayr]

These chips absolutely blew my mind. Raghu said it well. Better than 8800GT. Nvidia achieving this on the same 28nm node with a HUGE shader deficit and 33% of the bus cut and working the architecture like this is indisputably impressive. Very, very nicely done. More to come I am certain.

 

[mindbomb]

so wait, are these confirmed to have dx12 support? neither the anandtech review nor the launch speech mentioned it all.

 

[JDG1980]

TechPowerUp concludes its 980 review in style:

"Simply put, GTX 980 is the premium product to GTX 970, and you'll have to pay for that. NVIDIA has declared GTX 780 Ti, GTX 780 and GTX 770 end-of-life, which means you might be able to find those cards at discounted prices. Personally I wouldn't upgrade from anything more recent than GTX 680, but users of older cards should definitely look at NVIDIA's new products. Oh, and AMD seems f****d."

Well, that's a blunter conclusion than I would expect to see from TPU, but I understand where they're coming from. Still, AMD isn't totally screwed. They still have the console APU contracts locked down, and at lower price points (which do have higher sales volumes), they're still fairly competitive, at least in terms of perf/$, if not perf/watt. And as these threads have indicated, many gamers don't care if their GPU guzzles power as long as it gets the job done.

That said, they'd better adapt quickly - slapping more and more elaborate coolers on higher and higher TDP parts isn't going to cut it.

 

[chimaxi83]

I wish we didn't just get two new cars, or else I'd dump my 290s for 980s :/ The wife wouldn't be happy with more splurging. Gotta find an excuse before Witcher

 

[raghu78]

These chips absolutely blew my mind. Raghu said it well. Better than 8800GT. Nvidia achieving this on the same 28nm node with a HUGE shader deficit and 33% of the bus cut and working the architecture like this is indisputably impressive. Very, very nicely done. More to come I am certain.

Nvidia have moved so far ahead of AMD that its inevitable that we will see USD 1000 pricing on a 20nm GM200 based GTX Titan 2 sometime in Q1 or Q2 2015. AMD's GPU division really needs to pull up their socks and GCN 2.0 better bring significant efficiency improvements otherwise the road ahead for Nvidia gets smoother and for AMD worse. I can only wonder at what Nvidia can do with Pascal and HBM on a TSMC 16FF+ process in 2016. TSMC 16FF+ brings 60% perf improvement over TSMC 28HPM at same power. If Nvidia can accomplish this kind of perf efficiency on 28nm imagine what they could do on TSMC 16FF+.

 

[sontin]

so wait, are these confirmed to have dx12 support? neither the anandtech review nor the launch speech mentioned it all.

Microsoft announced that they will introduce a new DX11 feature level: FL 11_3.

So i guess Maxwell Gen2 supports the DX12 API level with FL 11_3.

 

[f1sherman]

Well, that's a blunter conclusion than I would expect to see from TPU, but I understand where they're coming from. Still, AMD isn't totally screwed. They still have the console APU contracts locked down, and at lower price points (which do have higher sales volumes), they're still fairly competitive, at least in terms of perf/$

Anyone with a product can be price competitive.
Just put a $1 price tag and you're golden. They are perf/$ competitive and then some with CPUs too.

And what about DSR and MFAA? Those are some terrific goodies.
I gave up on downsampling with 290, tinkering day are behind me.
Plus Nvidia's solution includes high quality Gaussian filter.
Looks like Timothy Lottes asking for HQ downsampling filter came to fruition.

 

[Attic]

[H] is showing a 44w advantage for the 980 over 780ti.

Not as impressive as I've otherwise been reading about.

What's the other power numbers look like and who is giving us fully warmed up cards?

 

[Keysplayr]

I know. I agree. We will probably see 1000 dollar Titan2. I mean, just look at the headroom Nvidia has if it wanted to release Maxwell based Titan 2 Still based on 28nm (forget about 20nm) it could do it easily with both die size and power usage.

 

[f1sherman]

[H] is showing a 44w advantage for the 980 over 780ti.

Not as impressive as I've otherwise been reading about.

What's the other power numbers look like and who is giving us fully warmed up cards?

yes... peak power

 

[Keysplayr]

[H] is showing a 44w advantage for the 980 over 780ti.

Not as impressive as I've otherwise been reading about.

What's the other power numbers look like and who is giving us fully warmed up cards?

Kepler was/is still a very efficient architecture. 980 uses less juice than a 680 but is faster than a 780Ti on the same node. I don't know how you can't call that impressive. But, to each his own.

 

[f1sherman]

Kepler was/is still a very efficient architecture. 980 uses less juice than a 680 but is faster than a 780Ti on the same node. I don't know how you can't call that impressive. But, to each his own.

I know. It's only 120W less than 290x :ninja:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...rce_gtx_980_video_card_review/13#.VBunFfmSzUk

 

[raghu78]

I know. It's only 120W less than 290x :ninja:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...rce_gtx_980_video_card_review/13#.VBunFfmSzUk

yeah its going to be even more embarassing. GTX 970 matches or is slightly behind R9 290X perf at roughly half the power consumption. AMD has nowhere to run or hide from this hammering in perf/watt. For a long time AMD supporter like me its seriously embarassing.

 

[badb0y]

If I keep reading reviews I am going to be the owner of 2 GTX 980s.

Best to just go to sleep and hide my wallet.

 

[Rezist]

If the 970 launches at $330 like AT article suggested that will be awesome, I wonder how fast the 960 will be at sub 300$ I cant see it having 4GB of ram.

Im sure the 970 will be be like 380$ CDN at launch tho.

 

[SPBHM]

well, I'm impressed, good job Nvidia.

time for an epic price drop for all the other cards.

 

[Eymar]

Really hope to score a few 970's today. Nice thing with GSYNC is don't need top of the line anymore to maintain smooth FPS at high res and with the 970s can put more to money towards monitors Hopefully Gsync+sli+surround doesn't have too many bugs.

 

[gamervivek]

I know. It's only 120W less than 290x http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/...3#.VBunFfmSzUk

yes...peak power