GTX 980 overclocked to 2.1Ghz - K|NGP|N (Techpowerup)

[wand3r3r]

I find it interesting, although not exactly practical (not that it needs to be), but it's downright insulting in some ways.

The fact it can hit 2 GHz on some golden chip with modded hardware and software is pretty neat. The insult though, is that NV neuters the cards they sell consumers by removing voltage increases and strict limitations to make sure you can't overclock much. That is ironic to me, on one hand "showing off" the architecture and overclocking while disabling everything that consumers get to ensure they don't overclock much.

(Yeah you can void the warranty and with specially modded bioses you might be able to get around them, but that's lame).

 

[KaRLiToS]

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

 

[Keysplayr]

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

Whatever you "call" it, it was probably a lot of fun for them and well as it was interesting. You don't see the negative comments because your negative comment was among them I suppose.

 

[therealnickdanger]

The only facts here are that Maxwell hit 2.1Ghz and "haters gonna hate".

 

[Keysplayr]

The only facts here are that Maxwell hit 2.1Ghz and "haters gonna hate".

It is indeed mighty impressive. World record is a world record. That will be broken eventually also. Could be an AMD chip next time.

 

[Pariah]

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

I agree. It's nothing but marketing. But the question is marketing to who and for what purpose? It has no real world application, and there is no trickle down effect considering how highly modified the hardware is. What idiot is buying products based on this garbage?

Like I said earlier, this will not influence my decision what car I will buy:

I still have no interest in owning a VW Bug.

 

[Grooveriding]

Sorry Grooveriding, maybe I didn't explain myself properly. I am not saying that overclock is possible with water cooling, I am saying that a healthy overclock on water is very possible.
Time will tell. :biggrin:

I agree with others in this thread that we hear these same PR releases about LN2 suicide benches every gpu launch mostly as marketing to the uninformed to get them thinking they can have an expectation of this by buying the card. In this case for evga and nvidia.

The clock speed generally doesn't even say anything. The 680 hit around 2100 on LN2 like we see here, whereas the 780ti did around 1900, and we know how those cards compare in real world performance. LN2 cools these cards to -100 and they pump as much voltage as they want into them. That is nothing similar to the 80C they run at on air or 40C on water with the hardlocked voltage scenario of real world use.

Anyway, this is always cool to see as a spectacle, but there really is not much in the way of useful context for buyers like these PR releases would try to have us believe.

 

[KaRLiToS]

It is indeed mighty impressive. World record is a world record. That will be broken eventually also. Could be an AMD chip next time.

Don't expect AMD breakin a record anytime soon.

 

[rtsurfer]

For those interested, the record mentioned in the OP was already surpassed

http://hwbot.org/submission/2636436_ @ 2135/2125 MHz

http://hwbot.org/submission/2636432_ @ 2060/2100 Mhz

 

[Keysplayr]

LOL that didn't take long.

 

[Tohtori]

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

No no you guys are mistaken.

What we have here with extreme OC and installing jet engines to cars is ENGINEER PORN :biggrin:

 

[rtsurfer]

LOL that didn't take long.

The EVGA Classified isn't even out yet.
This party is just getting started.

 

[KaRLiToS]

The EVGA Classified isn't even out yet.
This party is just getting started.

http://www.game-debate.com/news/?ne...980+Ti+Is+50+Per+Cent+Faster+Than+Titan+Black

If the GTX 980ti comes with 6gb ram and 384 bit bus, I might get 4 of them.

 

[rtsurfer]

http://www.game-debate.com/news/?ne...980+Ti+Is+50+Per+Cent+Faster+Than+Titan+Black

If the GTX 980ti comes with 6gb ram and 384 bit bus, I might get 4 of them.

I wouldn't blame you.

But I think I remember reading a post from you where you said you were tired of buying 28nm GPUs.
That 6GB VRAM shaking your resolve.:sneaky:

 

[thilanliyan]

It is indeed mighty impressive. World record is a world record. That will be broken eventually also. Could be an AMD chip next time.

Was this the first 2GHz GPU clock recorded?
If so, cool! While this doesn't really affect anyone not using LN2 or LHe, it's good to see boundaries pushed.

 

[f1sherman]

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

Decent at that, and it sure beats posting pics of blue and red pills, Winston Churchill tweets, or strapping CPU to a stupid balloon.

 

[KaRLiToS]

I wouldn't blame you.

But I think I remember reading a post from you where you said you were tired of buying 28nm GPUs.
That 6GB VRAM shaking your resolve.:sneaky:

Yes that is why I said "I might" . . I really feel the need to upgrade but 20nm or 16nm are so far away.

Decent at that, and it sure beats posting pics of blue and red pills, Winston Churchill tweets, or strapping CPU to a stupid balloon.

OFF TOPIC.

Sorry but I don't know how LN2 records has something to do with AMD PR in India...related to their Mars exploration mission.

 

[Keysplayr]

Yes that is why I said "I might" . . I really feel the need to upgrade but 20nm or 16nm are so far away.



OFF TOPIC.

Sorry but I don't know how LN2 records has something to do with AMD PR in India...related to their Mars exploration mission.

Because it's marketing. And you brought up marketing. Pretty simple IMHO.

 

[CrazyElf]

I find it interesting, although not exactly practical (not that it needs to be), but it's downright insulting in some ways.

The fact it can hit 2 GHz on some golden chip with modded hardware and software is pretty neat. The insult though, is that NV neuters the cards they sell consumers by removing voltage increases and strict limitations to make sure you can't overclock much. That is ironic to me, on one hand "showing off" the architecture and overclocking while disabling everything that consumers get to ensure they don't overclock much.

(Yeah you can void the warranty and with specially modded bioses you might be able to get around them, but that's lame).

+1

Nvidia through it's Project Greenlight has been selling voltage-locked cards. It's insulting to us that we cannot get 1.3V+ on the current chips officially.

Sometimes there are BIOSes that leak and stuff, but it's something that at heart, it's a very anti-consumer kind of thing to do. I note that (so far) AMD has not done this.

Personally I don't really care about LN2 world records. I care about how the cards perform in real world conditions that we are likely to see. That includes overclocking headroom.

I don't see negative comment here. Only facts.

These records are done outside real world conditions, with crap load of money and mods that the consumers don't have access to. Probably also have a load of binned cards that they killed before breaking that record.

Sorry I call that marketing.

Exactly. You and I, what can we do? Well we can buy a card, attach a waterblock and that's about it. Custom PCBs are good as they hedge bets. If some custom BIOS leaks, on Nvidia cards, then higher OCs are possible. Barring that, it's not. On air and water, you can get scaling up to about 1.425V, then after that you tend to reach a point where adding more volts just doesn't cause the card to go faster.

Edit: For that reason, yeah I'd agree that this is mostly about trying to snatch up sales of the very gullible average user.

 

[YBS1]

I can see where the negativity comes from towards this sort of thing. Personally I don't find it at all interesting because it's unsustainable. LN2 runs out, DI runs out, you can't use either while actually using these cards for their intended purposes even if you had an unlimited amount of it (at least without a partner feeding it). I don't really care about the chip killing voltages, the modifications or the custom bios. That stuff is sustainable (at least until it kills it anyway). Chilled liquid, phase change, etc. I'm all for that, it's "sustainable".

 

[master_shake_]

I'm more impressed by the 5.2 ghz OC on the Xeon ES that he used.

probably a 5960x coupled with a broken bios on that evga board...

broken bios on an evga board? that's unpossible.

 

[Keysplayr]

I can see where the negativity comes from towards this sort of thing. Personally I don't find it at all interesting because it's unsustainable. LN2 runs out, DI runs out, you can't use either while actually using these cards for their intended purposes even if you had an unlimited amount of it (at least without a partner feeding it). I don't really care about the chip killing voltages, the modifications or the custom bios. That stuff is sustainable (at least until it kills it anyway). Chilled liquid, phase change, etc. I'm all for that, it's "sustainable".

People know all this man. It's like you think these guys are trying to fool people into thinking this is business as usual and anyone can do it.

They're not. It's all for fun and record breaking.

 

[Hauk]

Much respect to this site.. but it's less a no limits enthusiast crowd, more a think tank. For sure.

 

[YBS1]

It's like you think these guys are trying to fool people into thinking this is business as usual and anyone can do it.

I've never been under the impression that the marketing was trying to fool us into believing the cards they are selling are capable of these things. I just don't see any of these feats being at all relevant to the purpose for which the product was intended in the first place (gaming/compute). It's like if Chevrolet announced tomorrow that a production based Corvette just set the "world speed record while going in reverse" for a production based vehicle. Who cares? It's not relevant to how a user would ever use the product.

OTOH, I can agree much of the lure of it for the people doing it is simply "because we can". I just don't see how any of it is exciting for an outsider.

 

[CrazyElf]

Companies will do whatever they can to sell. AMD did they same thing right before Bulldozer came out in 2011. End result? Totally power inefficient. Nvidia's problem is the exact opposite right now. They've got a very power efficient chip, good performance per mm^2, but they've voltage locked the chips so that barring a BIOS hack and a hack with the GPU OC software, it's not possible to overclock aggressively for the rest of us (I consider anything over 1.3V on 28nm to be aggressive on air and water). If it weren't exciting for outsiders, then it would not be broadcast so prominently by marketing.