GTX 980 Ti specifications - Teaser and benchmarks

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Head1985

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1080 is fine.Even TITANX cant maintain 60fps when everything is max out.
Problem is they didnt test it maxed out...
100fps in gta5 with GTX970?
Well i have with gtx980 45fps in some areas with only 4xMSAA.
Only good test there is firestrike.
 

flexy

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... and when I put it on Vsync I get all sorts of lag, feel very disconnected when playing a game then. And Adaptive Vsync will either give me tearing or a bit of input lag.

When you put a game on Vsync you tell the game engine basically to render slower than your H/W is capable of, I am sure you know that. When the game engine waits due to Vsync and thus it creates lag, this is not a problem of your GPU but of the game engine. (I mean you're literally telling a game engine to halt output and only output rendering in sync with your monitor).

Your Dell there has 60hz (I just checked, correct me if I am wrong), and with 60hz every frame HAS it's fixed time to get rendered. The render (frame) time will be the same with ANY card (providing it wont be too slow) if it outputs at "only" 60hz.

I am just surprised that you think a GTX 980TI would solve those "problems" (?) because it implies tearing or lag etc. would be a performance problem of the GTX 970. But it certainly is not. If you would not have those problems with a GTX 980 or 980TI I would be highly surprised but of course I would be interested if this was the case.

Did you try altering "pre-rendered frames" settings in NV control panel and set them to 1? This could solve lag possibly.
 
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Stuka87

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Just regular return. Bought one last week as I was building a brand new PC and wanted to have something meanwhile. Will probably also exchange my current Dell U2715H monitor for the Acer XB270HU Gsync monitor (though I really really hope I don't end up with a bad panel). The tearing on the screen is driving me nuts, and when I put it on Vsync I get all sorts of lag, feel very disconnected when playing a game then. And Adaptive Vsync will either give me tearing or a bit of input lag.

You are going to hate that Acer panel after using that Dell.

If you are getting lag with vsync it means your FPS is dropping below 60 most of the time. Try disabling a few of the more GPU hungry settings.
 

bryanW1995

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Yeah, I sure miss the days of yore when you could buy video card just below the top tier for under $300 and get 80-95% performance. 5850/5870/460 anyone? Those were the days. As I said, this is getting ridiculous, I'd rather give up gaming than spend $800 on a videocard. $800 can buy me a lot of things that will give me a lot more enjoyment than extra 15-20fps in a game.

Depends on where that extra 15-20 fps comes in...from 30 up to 50 fps? 90 up to 110 fps?
 

sakete

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When you put a game on Vsync you tell the game engine basically to render slower than your H/W is capable of, I am sure you know that. When the game engine waits due to Vsync and thus it creates lag, this is not a problem of your GPU but of the game engine. (I mean you're literally telling a game engine to halt output and only output rendering in sync with your monitor).

Your Dell there has 60hz (I just checked, correct me if I am wrong), and with 60hz every frame HAS it's fixed time to get rendered. The render (frame) time will be the same with ANY card (providing it wont be too slow) if it outputs at "only" 60hz.

I am just surprised that you think a GTX 980TI would solve those "problems" (?) because it implies tearing or lag etc. would be a performance problem of the GTX 970. But it certainly is not. If you would not have those problems with a GTX 980 or 980TI I would be highly surprised but of course I would be interested if this was the case.

Did you try altering "pre-rendered frames" settings in NV control panel and set them to 1? This could solve lag possibly.

Yes, the Dell is 60hz. I don't expect the 980Ti to solve the problems, it just means I can have a higher frame rate with more eye candy. I think what will mainly solve my problems is to get a 144Hz panel with Gsync, such as the Acer XB270HU.

Pre-rendered frames was already on 1.
 

sakete

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You are going to hate that Acer panel after using that Dell.

If you are getting lag with vsync it means your FPS is dropping below 60 most of the time. Try disabling a few of the more GPU hungry settings.

Is the Acer panel really that bad? I mean, once you're able to get your hands on a panel without bleeding problems or dead pixels, will it then not compare just as well to the Dell? They're both IPS type panels (the Acer is AHVA by AU Optronics and the Dell is AH-IPS by LG.Display) so they should otherwise be similar. I believe that from TFT Central review the Acer can even be calibrated to have a lower black depth than the Dell (and thus a higher contrast ratio).

This Dell I'm using right now isn't perfectly uniform either, just not to the point where it bothers me.
 

swilli89

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Is the Acer panel really that bad? I mean, once you're able to get your hands on a panel without bleeding problems or dead pixels, will it then not compare just as well to the Dell? They're both IPS type panels (the Acer is AHVA by AU Optronics and the Dell is AH-IPS by LG.Display) so they should otherwise be similar. I believe that from TFT Central review the Acer can even be calibrated to have a lower black depth than the Dell (and thus a higher contrast ratio).

This Dell I'm using right now isn't perfectly uniform either, just not to the point where it bothers me.
Color is going to seem way off. Trust me on that one
 

digitaldurandal

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Perhaps you should venture to the PCars steam forums as well as the official forums and tell them they're either wrong or lying.

I hear you though. It's not AMD's fault (I mean, when is it? right?) that's why I tend to stay away from AMD. Since based on the AMD fans own words, it's never AMD's fault. That leads me to believe AMD can't do anything about it. Also based on AMD fans word, it's always NVidia's fault. In my wildest imagination, I can't fathom nVidia helping AMD out.

So based on what I hear from AMD owners themselves, I can only surmise that in a situation where AMD performance isn't where it should be, the following must be true:

AMD can't do anything about it and nVidia won't do anything about it.

If Crossfire was not working the 295x2 would not get more frames than a 290x period.

My statement was that there is, and has been a profile. You said there was not one. You are a liar or ignorant.

You continue with the sarcasm and flaming.

"In my wildest imagination, I can't fathom nVidia helping AMD out."

No one is asking them to do this. Although to be fair AMD's progress has helped out Nvidia. Between Memory development and features they have assisted with getting into versions of DX.

"AMD can't do anything about it and nVidia won't do anything about it."

Correct. In Project Cars there is not much they are going to be able to do if PhysX is pegging the CPU. If you don't understand that idea, you are not learning anything in the VC&G forums, and it may be because you are so closed minded that any time your ideas are challenged you respond with a flippant response instead of looking at any information.

Unless you can make a post sans sarcasm I will not bother responding to you.
 

2is

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If Crossfire was not working the 295x2 would not get more frames than a 290x period.

My statement was that there is, and has been a profile. You said there was not one. You are a liar or ignorant.

You continue with the sarcasm and flaming.

"In my wildest imagination, I can't fathom nVidia helping AMD out."

No one is asking them to do this. Although to be fair AMD's progress has helped out Nvidia. Between Memory development and features they have assisted with getting into versions of DX.

"AMD can't do anything about it and nVidia won't do anything about it."

Correct. In Project Cars there is not much they are going to be able to do if PhysX is pegging the CPU. If you don't understand that idea, you are not learning anything in the VC&G forums, and it may be because you are so closed minded that any time your ideas are challenged you respond with a flippant response instead of looking at any information.

Unless you can make a post sans sarcasm I will not bother responding to you.

It was my evaluation of AMD's situation based on claims by people like you.

Oh but wait... AMD just released a beta driver (15.5) for PCARS (17% improvement) and TW3. How is this possible? I mean you just said they couldn't do anything about it (PCars)?

Hopefully it's clear why I was being sarcastic. It was because I knew you had no idea what you're talking about. AMD isn't blameless, and can in fact do something about it. But please, continue to share your thoughts about how I'm the ignorant one.
 

sakete

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Color is going to seem way off. Trust me on that one

Even after calibration? I have a colorimeter that I use to calibrate any display I use. And Simon from TFT Central claims that the Dell has a slightly better default setup, but otherwise they will be similar for day to day use, especially after calibration.
 
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moonbogg

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Even after calibration? I have a colorimeter that I use to calibrate any display I use. And Simon from TFT Central claims that the Dell has a slightly better default setup, but otherwise they will be similar for day to day use, especially after calibration.

Calibration can't fix luminance uniformity issues. White is only white on some parts of the screen, everywhere else its kind of brownish. Grays, light blues or any soft, light color will not be uniform across the panel.
If you calibrate, that part of the screen that you placed the sensor over will be calibrated, but the rest of the screen? Well, good luck with that. Maybe you are fortunate enough to get a panel that doesn't have the backlight uniformity of a $150 TN from 10 years ago.
Other than that, its a nice panel.
 

sakete

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Calibration can't fix luminance uniformity issues. White is only white on some parts of the screen, everywhere else its kind of brownish. Grays, light blues or any soft, light color will not be uniform across the panel.
If you calibrate, that part of the screen that you placed the sensor over will be calibrated, but the rest of the screen? Well, good luck with that. Maybe you are fortunate enough to get a panel that doesn't have the backlight uniformity of a $150 TN from 10 years ago.
Other than that, its a nice panel.

Well, I'll make sure to compare it to the Dell before I decide to keep it. Rumors are that Acer is stepping up their QC, so perhaps the newer batches will be better. I should receive mine in 2-4 weeks. And also the review sample on TFT Central didn't have a lot of uniformity issues, so I guess it really is a lottery with that screen.
 
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