GTX 980Ti finally launched - MSRP $649 - Reviews

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2is

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At $650 i'll hook up a second keyboard for a backup F5 key. When will we be able to actually buy it?
 

yacoub

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When the NDA ends and reviews are posted, they'll tell us when it should be expected on shelves/online.
 

yomamafor1

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GTX 980Ti have been confirmed $649 MSRP buddy
Notice that NDA for GTX 980Ti ends June 1st. So Zol was too quick to post this review. Bless them


I'm not sure, since the thread literally said, "I overheard this while I was walking".

It may be true, it may not be. But calling an obvious rumor thread a confirmation of fact is just plain wrong.
 

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So, it makes perfect sense, the out of the box performance. The titan x will be TDP limited. Boost 2 is really really good at what it does. Taking temps and TDP as its guide, the boost clocks are a result of that equation.

If the titan x and 980ti have the same power target, which i am sure they do. The out of the box performance (when not limited by vram(which would be super rare)), the 980ti would boost higher and hold its boost longer. The clocks are directly linked to the power consumed. Both right out of the box, the 980ti probably should be as fast as the titan x. Mainly because we already seen the titan X will not boost high when the power target and temp is left in its default state. If you look at the titanX review threads, there is a group of people that called this throttling. I guess if you look at it backwards, you can wrongly call it throttling. Looking at the 980ti with that backwards logic, we can say the 980ti will throttle less.
If that makes it easier for some people to understand. I think it is the wrong way to look at it though.


So, from there we can say that the 980ti is as fast as titanX and everyone who bought a titanX should be mad

But what should be noted is that moving the sliders to the highest power and temp target ,the situation should be different. The titanX should be faster than the 980ti, without issue, as long as they are both on the same cooler.
Reviewers dont typically move the power and temp targets on nvidia cards unless they are overclocking. But just moving the power/temp targets, the titan X should be able to spread its wings further. Their powertuning is gimping the titanX down more, and this allows the 980ti to catch up.

Max overclock to max overclock, on the same cooler, titanX should be faster.
The only thing is the coolers. If OEMs dont get to release many 3d party aftermarket titanX models, the titan X will get left in the dust by 980ti custom cards. This is where i see a huge potential. The 980ti boosting to 1400+ and holding it.......

A 1400mhz titan X will be faster, there is no way around it. But i am not sure how many aftermarket titan X options will be out there. I think vendors might cling to the 980ti because it will be a higher volume product, for sure.

On the flip side.......
This really has to be a devastating blow to AMDs fiji plan. I think it is a great punch in the gut. There really is no way around it. We know that AMD had set their sights on the titanX, they are releasing their premium FURY in a planned attack. But now nvidia drops a 980ti, which is right out of the box as fast as the titanX. It is priced hundreds less.....

I cannot see how this wouldnt effect their plan. It has to be a huge blow.
Now performance guesses for fiji are all over the place. But it doesnt matter, as i see it. If custom 980ti cards launch that boost to 1400mhz and are priced under $700, i cannot see how this would be good for AMD at all. Imagine if it doesnt take 1400mhz 980ti's to match fiji, it just cant be good.

This is a punch in the gut. And i think it is gonna hurt.
 
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Annisman*

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Bought a Titan X, not mad at all. Anybody who wasn't expecting this ahead of time is out of their minds.
 

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But what should be noted is that moving the sliders to the highest power and temp target ,the situation should be different. The titanX should be faster than the 980ti, without issue, as long as they are both on the same cooler.
Reviewers dont typically move the power and temp targets on nvidia cards unless they are overclocking. But just moving the power/temp targets, the titan X should be able to spread its wings further. Their powertuning is gimping the titanX down more, and this allows the 980ti to catch up.

How much can you increase the power on these cards?

I know different models and vendors can vary it, power is usually given a max in the bios.

For example my previous Asus 670 DCUII had a much higher (percentage wise) value, iirc it was around 130% which allows it to go from 170W to 221W. When overclocked it would often be able to use the whole 130%

My current Asus 780 DCUII on the other hand draws considerably more power even at stock, but only allows for a 10% increase so from 250W to 275W. Only half the wattage increase. I believe this is to keep in line with ATX spec so that people with basic PSU's don't blow anything.

In reality when actually gaming it rarely goes above 100%, the extra 10% headroom is often not enough to keep the card stable at higher clocks so Boost decides to reign in the clocks. There are some occasions I see it hovering around 105% or even 110% but this doesn't happen very often.

Thankfully I am able to maintain around 1215MHz in most situations, like I was with my 670, but I think this is down to Asus's fine voltage tuning and custom regulator chip.
 

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This really has to be a devastating blow to AMDs fiji plan.

Or, it isn't at all, and AMD had planned on releasing Fiji at less than what the TI will go for (while still besting it in performance).

The only reason we are even in this situation where people have accepted that paying over 1k for video cards is normal is because AMD have been taking their sweet time...
 

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I`m still trying to figure out what their plan with Titan X @$999 is when you get similar performance for $649.... Titan X is GPGPU gimped too, so the only benefit I see is 12GB which is meaningful to how many...?
Titan X should have gotten a price reduction down to $899 atleast
 

maddie

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too early even for Nvidia speculate where Fiji falls in the spectrum. AMD has done some killer lockdown on info this round. agree that this card looks great for the price.

I'm fairly certain both Nvidia and AMD have ways & means to find out about their competitors. Catch my drift?
 

maddie

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I`m still trying to figure out what their plan with Titan X @$999 is when you get similar performance for $649.... Titan X is GPGPU gimped too, so the only benefit I see is 12GB which is meaningful to how many...?
Titan X should have gotten a price reduction down to $899 atleast

Fiji incoming?

If true, then my prediction of 8GB HBM looks more likely. Nvidia could easily market 980Ti [6GB] as superior longer term.
 
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5150Joker

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What? USD is not America?



The 980Ti came out much quicker after Titan though, compared to Kepler.
I hope most people is prepared for 980Ti but we can be damn sure many didnt have a clue. Poor people.

Yeah the only benefit I can think of is 12GB VRAM. Me personally wouldnt know what to do with so much VRAM though

Titan X is an early adopter card for those that want top performance before mass lower sku availability. Whoever doesn't know this is an idiot. I'm fairly certain almost everyone who got one already knew about 980 Ti months ago. I won't speak for other Titan X owners but i don't consider video cards investments. They are relatively cheap toys I enjoy and frequently switch out.
 

Cloudfire777

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Fiji incoming?

If true, then my prediction of 8GB HBM looks more likely. Nvidia could easily market 980Ti [6GB] as superior longer term.
Well yeah, but my point is that they are killing their own Titan X card with the $649 price.

Titan X is an early adopter card for those that want top performance before mass lower sku availability. Whoever doesn't know this or can't afford one is an idiot. I'm fairly certain almost everyone who got one already knew about 980 Ti months ago. I won't speak for other Titan X owners but i don't consider video cards investments. They are relatively cheap toys I enjoy and frequently switch out.
Not everyone can afford to switch out graphic cards worth $1000-$2000 every year though.
I wish I could, but sadly thats not the case for me.
 

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Well yeah, but my point is that they are killing their own Titan X card with the $649 price.


Not everyone can afford to switch out graphic cards worth $1000-$2000 every year though.
I wish I could, but sadly thats not the case for me.

Well thanks to Titan X owners you now have a cheaper subsidized version you can buy.
 

maddie

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On the flip side.......
This really has to be a devastating blow to AMDs fiji plan. I think it is a great punch in the gut. There really is no way around it. We know that AMD had set their sights on the titanX, they are releasing their premium FURY in a planned attack. But now nvidia drops a 980ti, which is right out of the box as fast as the titanX. It is priced hundreds less.....

I cannot see how this wouldnt effect their plan. It has to be a huge blow.
Now performance guesses for fiji are all over the place. But it doesnt matter, as i see it. If custom 980ti cards launch that boost to 1400mhz and are priced under $700, i cannot see how this would be good for AMD at all. Imagine if it doesnt take 1400mhz 980ti's to match fiji, it just cant be good.

This is a punch in the gut. And i think it is gonna hurt.
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It was always unrealistic for AMD to jump into the premium price category in one generation. They must know that a premium brand is acquired over time. You don't go from value choice to premium overnight. They have to know that.

They have to become seen as the top performer for a while and then you can play with increasing prices. This is the first time in a long time AMD is willing to go maximum on the die size. We will see surely benefit in the coming competition.
 

maddie

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Well yeah, but my point is that they are killing their own Titan X card with the $649 price.


Not everyone can afford to switch out graphic cards worth $1000-$2000 every year though.
I wish I could, but sadly thats not the case for me.

No choice.

I think they now know what Fiji is bringing. It makes more sense to have 980Ti at say $649, than lower TitanX prices so soon after launch. You can always say 12GB vram, useful or not. The bragging rights will still be there.
 
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Cloudfire777

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Forbes had their review up, then it was taken down. I think NDA may end in an hour or two maybe.

But look at the url
forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/05/31/nvidias-new-gtx-980-ti-delivers-titan-x-level-performance-for-350-less

$999 - $350 = $649
 

maddie

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That's called corporate espionage. That can end a company. Catch my drift?

Without using illegal means, don't you think both companies have contacts, etc that might drop info. People talk and boast, its our nature.
 

Annisman*

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Titan X is an early adopter card for those that want top performance before mass lower sku availability. Whoever doesn't know this is an idiot. I'm fairly certain almost everyone who got one already knew about 980 Ti months ago. I won't speak for other Titan X owners but i don't consider video cards investments. They are relatively cheap toys I enjoy and frequently switch out.

This, anybody buying a Titan X is not thinking how many years they will keep it, more like how many months, catch my drift ?
 

CP5670

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It's practically even with the Titan X. $650 is lower than I expected for such a card. It also makes the regular 980 too expensive even at $500, should be more like $400-450 to make sense.
 

flopper

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It's practically even with the Titan X. $650 is lower than I expected for such a card. It also makes the regular 980 too expensive even at $500, should be more like $400-450 to make sense.

980 is eol with this.
 
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