GTX 980Ti finally launched - MSRP $649 - Reviews

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ader098

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But that always happens with technology man. Nothing you can do about it. Something new is always around the corner. I want to upgrade my 970 and then I will not look back for at least 3 years. But I will not pay $200 extra

I'm sure a 980ti could probably last me until the end of current gen consoles (3-4 years).
It is the new HBM memory interface + die shrink coming next year that has me jealous.

Then again, having the latest tech to play makes the waiting more bearable
 

Aikouka

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THIS!

Honestly, they need to do away with all full-size ports. Go mini-DP only...

Ahem... some of us still use DVI!

Frankly, I can't stand how DisplayPort doesn't hold the connection when the monitor is turned off. Because it "disappears" from Windows, it messes up your window positions. I've had to "fix" this problem by actually using the "turn off display after..." feature; however, I'd still rather manually turn them on and off.

Not to mention Windows Media Center DOES NOT support DisplayPort connections for any protected content, which means that anything that I record off HBO must be played over a HDMI or DVI connection.
 

MrTeal

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Ahem... some of us still use DVI!

Frankly, I can't stand how DisplayPort doesn't hold the connection when the monitor is turned off. Because it "disappears" from Windows, it messes up your window positions. I've had to "fix" this problem by actually using the "turn off display after..." feature; however, I'd still rather manually turn them on and off.

Not to mention Windows Media Center DOES NOT support DisplayPort connections for any protected content, which means that anything that I record off HBO must be played over a HDMI or DVI connection.

Windows needs to entirely rework how they handle rendering, multiple monitors, DPI scaling, etc. It's a nightmare.
 

rchunter

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Ahem... some of us still use DVI!

Frankly, I can't stand how DisplayPort doesn't hold the connection when the monitor is turned off. Because it "disappears" from Windows, it messes up your window positions. I've had to "fix" this problem by actually using the "turn off display after..." feature; however, I'd still rather manually turn them on and off.

Not to mention Windows Media Center DOES NOT support DisplayPort connections for any protected content, which means that anything that I record off HBO must be played over a HDMI or DVI connection.

Yeah I still use DL-DVI, and I wouldn't buy a video card if it didn't have the port on it. Hopefully they will keep including them on cards for years to come. I just bought a $300 DL-DVI kvm the other day. I have no plans to switch to displayport any time soon. Until I move up to 4k or higher res I won't be using it.
 

Anubis

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Ahem... some of us still use DVI!

Frankly, I can't stand how DisplayPort doesn't hold the connection when the monitor is turned off. Because it "disappears" from Windows, it messes up your window positions. I've had to "fix" this problem by actually using the "turn off display after..." feature; however, I'd still rather manually turn them on and off.

Not to mention Windows Media Center DOES NOT support DisplayPort connections for any protected content, which means that anything that I record off HBO must be played over a HDMI or DVI connection.

yea this pisses me off to no end. and using windows "fix" does not always work.
 

exar333

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Windows needs to entirely rework how they handle rendering, multiple monitors, DPI scaling, etc. It's a nightmare.

This.

Crossing my fingers for Win10 to solve most of these issues. A guy can hope...
 

exar333

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Yeah I still use DL-DVI, and I wouldn't buy a video card if it didn't have the port on it. Hopefully they will keep including them on cards for years to come. I just bought a $300 DL-DVI kvm the other day. I have no plans to switch to displayport any time soon. Until I move up to 4k or higher res I won't be using it.

Not saying it should go for all cards, but most flagships cards from 2015+ should really focus on DP/HDMI for bandwidth. DL-DVI, for example, can't even hit 60hz on my display, and I am not even running 4K...If someone is getting 1+ $700+ flagships sure they can afford to replace an older display.

Mini-DP is great because it has a small footprint, allows for a lot of connections in a small space (perfect for single-slot cards) and adapters for HDMI are easy to come by.

Hopefully software and HDCP catch-up and start getting with the times.
 

xthetenth

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False, go over into CPUs & Overclocking and let the fear mongers tell you how air cooling is superior to AIOs .

Even if that is the case, I rather doubt you could hang an NH-D15 off a graphics card.
 

rchunter

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Not saying it should go for all cards, but most flagships cards from 2015+ should really focus on DP/HDMI for bandwidth. DL-DVI, for example, can't even hit 60hz on my display, and I am not even running 4K...If someone is getting 1+ $700+ flagships sure they can afford to replace an older display.

Mini-DP is great because it has a small footprint, allows for a lot of connections in a small space (perfect for single-slot cards) and adapters for HDMI are easy to come by.

Hopefully software and HDCP catch-up and start getting with the times.

What display are you running? I just bought a BenQ BL3200. It's not old at all and runs at DL-DVI 2560x1440 60hz. It runs at 60hz just fine, and that's even with a DL-DVI KVM in between. HDMI 1.4 isn't even that great. It will run 4k but only at 30hz. Monitor makers need to start including hdmi 2.0 ports. hdmi 1.4 is inferior.
 
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exar333

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What display are you running? I just bought a BenQ BL3200. It's not old at all and runs at DL-DVI 2560x1440 60hz. It runs at 60hz just fine, and that's even with a DL-DVI KVM in between. HDMI 1.4 isn't even that great. It will run 4k but only at 30hz. Monitor makers need to start including hdmi 2.0 ports. hdmi 1.4 is inferior.

3440x1440/60hz.

~25% more pixels vs. traditional 1440P. HDMI runs at 50hz on it, as it still uses 1.4...
 

Anubis

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What display are you running? I just bought a BenQ BL3200. It's not old at all and runs at DL-DVI 2560x1440 60hz. It runs at 60hz just fine, and that's even with a DL-DVI KVM in between. HDMI 1.4 isn't even that great. It will run 4k but only at 30hz. Monitor makers need to start including hdmi 2.0 ports. hdmi 1.4 is inferior.

LG 34 UM95

specifically, we have the same monitor

my only real issue with DP is the stupid window scaling issues Aikouka mentioned. however that may be because I run it off a DP and another monitor off an active DL-DVI -> DP adapter
 

rchunter

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LG 34 UM95

specifically, we have the same monitor

my only real issue with DP is the stupid window scaling issues Aikouka mentioned. however that may be because I run it off a DP and another monitor off an active DL-DVI -> DP adapter

Whatever happens happens. I can't control what the video card makers are going to do but if I have a choice i'm going to always buy a card that has a dvi port on it. I'd rather not use adapters. I don't even know if an adapter would play nice since i'm using a dl-dvi kvm.
 
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Ranulf

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False, go over into CPUs & Overclocking and let the fear mongers tell you how air cooling is superior to AIOs .

It is superior in many if not most situations for CPUs and GPUs. Mega overclocking or situations with high heat, then yes water makes the most sense.

THIS!

Honestly, they need to do away with all full-size ports. Go mini-DP only...

Won't happen until they shift down to lower end monitors. DVI is gone from most cheap monitors these days, its all vga and hdmi for widest compatibility. If you want DP of any sort you're paying $200+ for a monitor and you're ordering it online.
 

PPB

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False, go over into CPUs & Overclocking and let the fear mongers tell you how air cooling is superior to AIOs .
Yeah, because air coolers for cpus are identical to air coolers for gpus. /not.

Air coolers arent better at raw cooling but at cooling/noise values. They also come with better stock fans that aios. Having to dump those noisy stock fans on corsair aios to conveniently replace them with their sp series ones makes clc a horrible value proposition. Give me a clc that has fans as good as noctua's or ty-14x's, you will count the models with 1 hand.

Also: gpu air coolers are stuck with crappy sizes that are well known to be turbine jets at high rpm, unless yoy go wild and set a ty 143 to 2600 rpm, this wont likely happen on cpu air coolers which can get as big as 150mm fans.
 

thehotsung8701A

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Hope everyone who got this GPU enjoy it. I think I'm going to have to pass on Nvidia product from now on. Reading more and more people opinion on Reddit and other places, Surround isn't worth the trouble it causes.
 

badb0y

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2 questions:

Probably not going to go SLI since the performance of one card is really good, however now I want to know how far I can go with a better cooler on my chip (1480~ on stock cooler).

Looking into an Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme 3 which has compatibility with GTX 980, do you guys think it will fit on GTX 980 Ti?
 

alcoholbob

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2 questions:

Probably not going to go SLI since the performance of one card is really good, however now I want to know how far I can go with a better cooler on my chip (1480~ on stock cooler).

Looking into an Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme 3 which has compatibility with GTX 980, do you guys think it will fit on GTX 980 Ti?

I hear installation is a lot of work on the Arctic Xtreme 3 because it's meant to fit so many GPUs. You gotta manually do a cutout for a metal sheet and heat pads for the VRMs. Better off waiting for a cooler designed for the card like the EVGA ACX 2.0+.

The other issue is the Artic Xtreme 3 is massive, I believe its virtually a 4 slot cooler.
 

iiiankiii

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2 questions:

Probably not going to go SLI since the performance of one card is really good, however now I want to know how far I can go with a better cooler on my chip (1480~ on stock cooler).

Looking into an Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme 3 which has compatibility with GTX 980, do you guys think it will fit on GTX 980 Ti?

Are you okay with the evga hybrid water cooler? Those work great. Under 60c with load and overclocked. You'll still need a proper back plate to cool the back VRM and VRAM. EK backplate actually gives you a good drop and looks pretty darn good. It can drop the back of the card to the mid 60c.

That will allow you to push the card to 1550mhz with a modded bios. You won't hit those numbers on stock bios because you'll be voltage limited and TDP limited. On stock bios, you're probably get 25mhz more before you'll hit the TDP wall with good cooling.

Basically, the limit of these cards seems to be 1600mhz on a good chip. But I think most will do around 1500mhz with good cooling.
 

badb0y

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Are you okay with the evga hybrid water cooler? Those work great. Under 60c with load and overclocked. You'll still need a proper back plate to cool the back VRM and VRAM. EK backplate actually gives you a good drop and looks pretty darn good. It can drop the back of the card to the mid 60c.

That will allow you to push the card to 1550mhz with a modded bios. You won't hit those numbers on stock bios because you'll be voltage limited and TDP limited. On stock bios, you're probably get 25mhz more before you'll hit the TDP wall with good cooling.

Basically, the limit of these cards seems to be 1600mhz on a good chip. But I think most will do around 1500mhz with good cooling.

I would go with a water cooler but the problem is my case is too small (SG10, mATX) and I don't have room for the 120 mm radiator. It has to be an air cooler. I think I can push my card to 1600 Mhz if I had adequate cooling and modded BIOS.
 
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